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A kurashev trade from my perspecitve

Créé par: Kyle_Davidson
Équipe: 2024-25 Blackhawks de Chicago
Date de création initiale: 20 mars 2024
Publié: 20 mars 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Lets say you want to capitalize on the career year that Kurashev is having right now. My preference would be to keep him for depth and to help develop the next waive of hawks which he could be apart of. However, its been discussed that maybe the hawks rebuild could be better served by trading him while his value is high. Here is my view on what that looks like.
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1.
CHI
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (CAR)
Détails additionnels:
Carolina is suggested because Kurashev is a cost-controlled asset, not a rental, and they love to exploit draft inefficiencies with late round picks. They are not as aggressive as Tampa, so take this suggestion with pinch of salt. Really any team works.

Carolina or any other team is welcome to include a cap dump or contracts here.
CAR
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (CHI)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2026 (CHI)
Détails additionnels:
Kurashev (2,250,000 x 1YL) RFA (arb.) currently 24 years old with 44 in 66GP.
2.
CHI
  1. Zegras, Trevor
Détails additionnels:
Trade number 2, package Kurashev and picks to upgrade for a premium asset.

I dont know if this is enough, but I do know ANA does not need LD and that is our greatest prospect surplus.
ANA
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (TOR)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (DAL)
Détails additionnels:
Kurashev (2,250,000 x 1YL) RFA (arb.) currently 24 years old with 44 in 66GP.

2025 2nd round pick can become Chicagos own 2nd round pick if Zegras plays in X number of games.
3.
CHI
  1. Sillinger, Cole [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Trade number 3: Purely hockey trade. I dont know if its good/bad but another option to move Kurashev is a purely hockey trade that makes sense for the hawks.
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
1383 500 000 $51 576 667 $0 $5 775 000 $31 923 333 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
C
RFA - 2
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 2
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4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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912 500 $912 500 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG
RFA - 1
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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918 333 $918 333 $ (Bonis de performance1 000 000 $$1M)
DG
RFA - 2
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9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 6
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4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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916 667 $916 667 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DG
RFA - 1
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4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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962 500 $962 500 $
G
RFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
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5 750 000 $5 750 000 $ (4 600 000 $$5M4 600 000 $$5M)
C, AG
RFA - 2

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20 mars à 11 h 47
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You're in disneyland if you think Kurashev is worth this much. On ANY other team, he's not getting the ice time or quality of linemates he is in Chicago. Playing 20 minutes a night with Bedard will help point totals no problem, look at Granlund in San Jose, look in the past at guys like Dzingel, hell look at Vatrano in Anaheim. Kurashev is good, he's fine. 2 1sts, Zegras and Sillinger is DRASTICALLY overvaluing this player.
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20 mars à 11 h 50
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You're in disneyland if you think Kurashev is worth this much. On ANY other team, he's not getting the ice time or quality of linemates he is in Chicago. Playing 20 minutes a night with Bedard will help point totals no problem, look at Granlund in San Jose, look in the past at guys like Dzingel, hell look at Vatrano in Anaheim. Kurashev is good, he's fine. 2 1sts, Zegras and Sillinger is DRASTICALLY overvaluing this player.


Yes, I am aware that this is the most likely reaction from someone who is unfamiliar with the player and vaguely familiar with Chicago's circumstances. This post is in response to a discussion regarding trading kurashev that took place in another ACGM. As my description states I am against trading him and the values are somewhat reflective of that.
20 mars à 11 h 54
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Quoting: Kyle_Davidson
Yes, I am aware that this is the most likely reaction from someone who is unfamiliar with the player and vaguely familiar with Chicago's circumstances. This post is in response to a discussion regarding trading kurashev that took place in another ACGM. As my description states I am against trading him and the values are somewhat reflective of that.


This isn't a case of the values being against trading him, with respect, getting a 1st for Kurashev right now would be impressive. He's good, he's fine you can be against trading him. I'm against the Canes trading Necas. That doesn't mean I'd expect three times his value in response. And I'm familiar enough with Kurashev to suggest, while he's been good, this is completely nuts.
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20 mars à 11 h 58
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Nah he's not worth this much.
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20 mars à 11 h 59
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kurashev isnt Hagel, pass
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20 mars à 12 h 3
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oh wow
20 mars à 12 h 18
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I'd think you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone outside of CHI valuing Kurashev like this.

Regardless, I would think teams would need at the very least another year of repeated success to at least stay at the negotiating table for something like this.
20 mars à 12 h 26
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I'm all for moving Kurashev if his value is anywhere near this high. As long as there's a solid plan in place to fill his spot on Bedard's RW with someone better. And that isn't Nazar or anyone else currently in the Hawks system. For the record, I don't think Kurashev gets two 1st's or a player like Zegras. And I wouldn't swap him for Sillinger.
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20 mars à 12 h 29
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Quoting: Caniac2000
You're in disneyland if you think Kurashev is worth this much. On ANY other team, he's not getting the ice time or quality of linemates he is in Chicago. Playing 20 minutes a night with Bedard will help point totals no problem, look at Granlund in San Jose, look in the past at guys like Dzingel, hell look at Vatrano in Anaheim. Kurashev is good, he's fine. 2 1sts, Zegras and Sillinger is DRASTICALLY overvaluing this player.



To be fair, Sillinger is vastly overrated, as well. But yeah, two 1sts for Kurashev is "I'll have what he's smoking" any way you slice it.
20 mars à 12 h 31
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ANA is further in the rebuild and Verbeek has outright said he wants to turn the corner next year with this team. I don’t see the benefit in downgrading from Zegras for late 1sts and 2nds. I’d for sure pass, but kudos and thank you for not throwing in a LHD. Even though it’s a no from my pov, it’s well thought out and original 👍
20 mars à 12 h 44
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Kurashev still leading at the Masters?
20 mars à 12 h 49
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Excellent idea and post, KFC. Certainly helps to get a read on Kurashev's value. Thanks for doing this. Takes two to tango, for sure!

Bottom line, IMO... Now (after this season) is the time to get the most value for him in trade, IF there's compelling value in return. Maybe it's there; maybe not. He's a useful, versatile, cost-controlled, relatively young player probably more valuable to a contending team up against the cap struggling to round out their roster. What that translates to in trade we may (or may not if it doesn't happen) know soon.

Cheers
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20 mars à 12 h 50
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Sillinger has bounced back from his dreadful sophomore year big time. He's not back to the levels he was at his rookie year (where he was stapled to Jakob Voracek), but he's at this point an established, respectable 3C. As the team shapes up around him, we're content with that. I don't think there's much stomach to move him, especially not for an obvious downgrade.
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20 mars à 12 h 59
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Kurashev isn't established or stable enough for him to be a desirable target for the Jackets, and we sure as hell aren't going to buy high.
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20 mars à 13 h 5
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ANA is further in the rebuild and Verbeek has outright said he wants to turn the corner next year with this team. I don’t see the benefit in downgrading from Zegras for late 1sts and 2nds. I’d for sure pass, but kudos and thank you for not throwing in a LHD. Even though it’s a no from my pov, it’s well thought out and original 👍


An insanely easy pass
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20 mars à 13 h 16
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worth a 2nd
20 mars à 13 h 48
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Easy pass from all teams. Your value is way off for him, you need to lower your expectations.
 
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