The maximum Carolina will spend on any rental is a 3rd round pick

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Créé par: sensonfire

Équipe: 2023-24 Hurricanes de la Caroline

Date de création initiale: 23 févr. 2024

Publié: 23 févr. 2024

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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I read the transcript of Pierre Lebrun's interview with Carolina's GM Don Waddell.

https://theathletic.com/5283977/2024/02/19/hurricanes-trade-deadline-plans-don-waddell/

And one thing that stood out to me was that Carolina will never spend much, if anything, on a rental.

It doesn't matter how good the rental is or what he would bring to the Hurricanes in their quest for the Cup.

The most Carolina under Waddell ever spent on a rental was a 3rd round pick.

For Sami Vatanen and Shayne Gostibehere respectively.

So, if you're looking to get anything more than a 3rd round pick for your All-Star rental, Carolina will tell you to kick rocks.

Transactions

CAR

Guentzel, Jake (3 000 000 $ retained)

PIT

Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (CAR)

CAR

Henrique, Adam (2 912 500 $ retained)

ANA

Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (CAR)

Enfoui

Antti Raanta: 350 000 $ (1 500 000 $)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
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TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	83 500 000 $	77 260 667 $	450 000 $	500 000 $	6 239 333 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Guentzel, Jake 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 1	Aho, Sebastian 8 460 250 $8 460 250 $ C UFA - 1	Jarvis, Seth 894 167 $894 167 $ (500 000 $$500K) AD RFA - 1
Svechnikov, Andrei 7 750 000 $7 750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 6	Henrique, Adam -1 456 250 $-1 456 250 $ AG, C M-NTC UFA - 1	Necas, Martin 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ AD RFA - 1
Bunting, Michael 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG M-NTC UFA - 3	Kotkaniemi, Jesperi 4 820 000 $4 820 000 $ C UFA - 7	Teräväinen, Teuvo 5 400 000 $5 400 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 1
Martinook, Jordan 1 800 000 $1 800 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Staal, Jordan 2 900 000 $2 900 000 $ C, AG NMC UFA - 4	Fast, Jesper 2 400 000 $2 400 000 $ AD NTC UFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Slavin, Jaccob 5 300 000 $5 300 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2	Burns, Brent 5 280 000 $5 280 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 2	Kochetkov, Pyotr 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ G UFA - 4
Skjei, Brady 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 1	Pesce, Brett 4 025 000 $4 025 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 1	Martin, Spencer 762 500 $762 500 $ G UFA - 1
Orlov, Dmitry 7 750 000 $7 750 000 $ DG UFA - 2	Deangelo, Anthony 1 675 000 $1 675 000 $ DD UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Drury, Jack 925 000 $925 000 $ C RFA - 1		Andersen, Frederik 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 2
Chatfield, Jalen 762 500 $762 500 $ DD UFA - 1
Noesen, Stefan 762 500 $762 500 $ AG, AD UFA - 1

23 févr. à 12 h 43

Falcon_talon

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Anaheim and Pitty also tell you to kick rocks. Waddell should learn that Guentz is insane. As a canes fan I'd love Guentz he is a great goal scorer who'd fit amazingly with KK and Jarvis.

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23 févr. à 12 h 46

JuanDamienNebraska

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Yeah, this is nothing new. Overall, CAR is managed well, but, in my opinion, far too cautiously at times. I suppose CAR being a relatively small market could partially be a reason for management’s caution? However, there have been times where I’ve felt that that talented of a team deserved a real push to help them get over the hump. Just my two cents.

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23 févr. à 12 h 52

mokumboi

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So, in other words, welcome to Raleigh, Anthony Mantha?

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23 févr. à 12 h 55

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Quoting: JuanDamienNebraska

is it caution or arrogance?

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23 févr. à 12 h 57

gumshoeismygod

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When you draft as well as Carolina does, I think it's a smart use of assets to not throw those picks away.

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23 févr. à 13 h 11

evelutions2

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How many 1st round picks were utilized in trades between teams like Boston, Toronto, New Jersey, and the Rangers last season? Yet only 2 of those teams made it to the 2nd round before being eliminated. Spending premium assets on rentals does not guarantee playoff success.

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23 févr. à 13 h 19

csick

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Quoting: JuanDamienNebraska

Part of the reason they can’t win a cup. They didn’t want to pay to replace Svechnikov last year

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23 févr. à 13 h 23

Prime_Jimbo

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Canes made their big bets in UFA with Orlov and Bunting so it makes sense they wouldn't trade a good asset now. Turbo is likely on his way out to sign Jarvis and Necas.

Orlov signing was slightly puzzling but I guess they felt Bunting was enough of a forward add.

Drury has played very well so the need for another center/forward diminished as well.

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23 févr. à 13 h 23

Shibbal18

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Quoting: gumshoeismygod

When you draft as well as Carolina does, I think it's a smart use of assets to not throw those picks away.

7 of their 24 on the roster were drafted by them. Which seems to be overwhelmingly average in the top 16

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23 févr. à 13 h 29

#10

Letsgosharks

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Well they should probably trade more than a third, the time is now

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23 févr. à 13 h 59

#11

Huge_Caniac_Abe_Lincoln

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Quoting: csick

Part of the reason they can’t win a cup. They didn’t want to pay to replace Svechnikov last year

Svechnikov was injured after the trade deadline, can't do much to replace him at that point.

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23 févr. à 14 h 36

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gumshoeismygod

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Quoting: Shibbal18

7 of their 24 on the roster were drafted by them. Which seems to be overwhelmingly average in the top 16

The Canes new regime’s first draft was 2018, prospects need time to turn into actual NHLers. Drury was a part of that 2018 class and is just now getting his crack as a full time player. The Canes pipeline is widely regarding as top 10-15 in the league, which is very impressive given that they’ve been a contender with mostly late picks over the past 5 years.

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23 févr. à 14 h 37

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gumshoeismygod

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Quoting: csick

Part of the reason they can’t win a cup. They didn’t want to pay to replace Svechnikov last year

You’re right, Don Waddell should’ve looked into the future and seen that Svechnikov was going to get injured after the trade deadline.

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23 févr. à 15 h 19

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Then you have zero chance of acquiring Henrique

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23 févr. à 15 h 23

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sensonfire

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sensonfire

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Quoting: Jded

Then you have zero chance of acquiring Henrique

And a zero chance of winning the Cup as well.

24 févr. à 22 h 36

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edeangel84

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There’s 0.0% chance we do that.

24 févr. à 22 h 57

#17

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sensonfire

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Quoting: edeangel84

There’s 0.0% chance we do that.

I agree.

But this AGM is more about what Carolina will do.

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