Quoting: Shanesaw9
I know you and others are disappointed, I had this analysis que'd up but I didn't really feel like arguing with Jets fans anymore about whether or not Monahan is worth a 1st round pick, but now that the trade has happened I hope it helps you understand a bit:
So a common thing I keep seeing from Jets fans is "we have Namestnikov we don't want Monahan he is a 4C on this team".
The most common thing I see is "Namestnikov is better 5v5".
At a glance this seems to be true, Namestnikov has 18 5v5 points in 44 GP at a rate of 2.03 P/60 while Monahan has 17 5v5 points in 49 GP at a rate of 1.65 P/60. However as with anything, we should consider the context.
Monahan's linemates (minimum 60 min together at 5v5):
- Anderson 250 min (9 5v5 pts in 595 min, 0.91 P/60)
- Gallagher 184 min (12 5v5 pts in 576 min, 1.25 P/60)
- Pearson 175 min (6 5v5 pts in 312 min, 1.15 P/60)
- Evans 163 min (12 5v5 pts in 581 min, 1.24 P/60)
- Armia 115 min (7 5v5 pts in 377 min, 1.11 P/60)
- Ylonen 68 min (7 5v5 pts in 338 min, 1.24 P/60)
He's not working with much, on average his linemates P/60 weighted by ice time together at 5v5 is 1.12 P/60, Monahan is +0.53 P/60 above his linemates at 5v5... he is essentially carrying them.
Now Namestnikov:
- Perfetti 389 min (17 5v5 pts in 542 min, 1.88 P/60)
- Ehlers 253 min (27 5v5 pts in 615 min, 2.63 P/60)
- Iafallo 179 min (11 5v5 pts in 588 min, 1.12 P/60)
Perfetti and Ehlers are far better linemates than anyone Monahan has to work with. On average, Namestnikov's linemates P/60 weighted by ice time together at 5v5 is 1.95, Namestnikov is +0.08 P/60 above his linemates at 5v5 so basically what you would expect.
My argument is, if you put Monahan on WPG's 2nd line with Ehlers and Perfetti I would bet you would get way more production from him at 5v5, and even better results from that line than with Namestnikov.
The next most common claim is that "Monahan benefits from powerplay time in MTL, something he surely won't get on a contender".
Powerplay Rates:
- Monahan: 5.6 P/60
- Perfetti: 5.3 P/60
- Connor: 5.2 P/60
- Scheifele: 4.4 P/60
- Iafallo: 2.5 P/60
- Niederreiter: 2.5 P/60
- Vilardi: 1.9 P/60
- Ehlers: 1.4 P/60
Looks like Monahan might be a guy that could help the Jets powerplay to me. I also notice that the Jets seem to use 2 units more balanced than most NHL teams so no matter which unit he's on he will get a decent amount of powerplay time.
Anyways I truly believe Jets fans are going to be happy with this deal, Monahan has been very good on a bad MTL team this season. Hopefully he brings that to the Jets.