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Créé par: Hedman4Norris
Équipe: 2023-24 Lightning de Tampa Bay
Date de création initiale: 24 déc. 2023
Publié: 24 déc. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
TBL
  1. Monahan, Sean (183 333 $ retained)
MTL
  1. Myers, Philippe
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (TBL)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (TBL)
  4. Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (MIN)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $83 500 000 $0 $15 000 $0 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
C, AG
NTC
UFA - 6
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9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
C, AD
NMC
UFA - 7
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9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 4
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 8
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8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 1
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 801 667 $1 801 667 $ (Bonis de performance15 000 $$15K)
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
758 333 $758 333 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
2 665 000 $2 665 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
800 000 $800 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
800 000 $800 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
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9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 8
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
5 200 000 $5 200 000 $
DD
UFA - 8
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
775 000 $775 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
762 500 $762 500 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
775 000 $775 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
6 875 000 $6 875 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
800 000 $800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
775 000 $775 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1

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24 déc. 2023 à 13 h 25
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Not remotely close
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24 déc. 2023 à 13 h 25
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I think it’s a fair trade for both teams.
Don’t know if it makes sense on their rosters/lineups 🤔
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24 déc. 2023 à 13 h 29
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Quoting: Vancity2196
I think it’s a fair trade for both teams.
Don’t know if it makes sense on their rosters/lineups 🤔


How?! A depth dman and a bunch of picks that odds are don’t amount to anything for one of our top forwards.
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24 déc. 2023 à 13 h 33
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Quoting: Vancity2196
I think it’s a fair trade for both teams.
Don’t know if it makes sense on their rosters/lineups 🤔



not fair at all. i don't know what you're saying. Someone who plays in the Ahl + some mid picks we already have for someone who brings so much for us? Hell nah. Easy pass. 1st+ if you want him. There's not even a 2nd rounder in this deal bruh. There's even retention on the deal.
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24 déc. 2023 à 13 h 36
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I am pretty sure Habs would never make that trade.
Either a 1st round pick... or they re-sign him. They are not desperately trying to get rid of him.

There is a team that will offer a 1st round pick for Monahan. Unless his production suddenly comes to a screetching halt, or if he gets injured.
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24 déc. 2023 à 13 h 37
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Even though it's obvious that the Habs would refuse that trade, I have to say that it's amazing that you got the cap space down to exactly zero lol
Good job smile
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24 déc. 2023 à 13 h 41
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Most of Monahans production is on the PP and he definitely won’t get much time on Tampas PP. Value seems fine though.
Savard would be a better target
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24 déc. 2023 à 13 h 47
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Not this again.
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24 déc. 2023 à 14 h 5
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Quoting: Newgod77
Most of Monahans production is on the PP and he definitely won’t get much time on Tampas PP. Value seems fine though.
Savard would be a better target


Value seems fine ... from TB's point-of-view, I totally agree.

How about if you were trying to put yourself in the Habs GM place for a moment?

Remember: trades are done with 2 teams. BOTH teams need to get something they want and need from the trade... or they don't do it.

From TB'S side, yes, great value. Fair.
From Montreal's side, they decline.
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24 déc. 2023 à 14 h 12
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Quoting: Newgod77
Most of Monahans production is on the PP and he definitely won’t get much time on Tampas PP. Value seems fine though.
Savard would be a better target


A lot of guys on here make the mistake of evaluating trade value according to what the acquiring team would use them for. Players value is evaluated by what they’ve done on their current team and how important he is to them. Here in Montreal he plays PP#1 and is the guy taking the face off when the game is on the line. This offer would be insulting to Hugo.
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24 déc. 2023 à 14 h 18
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A lot of guys on here make the mistake of evaluating trade value according to what the acquiring team would use them for. Players value is evaluated by what they’ve done on their current team and how important he is to them. Here in Montreal he plays PP#1 and is the guy taking the face off when the game is on the line. This offer would be insulting to Hugo.


His 5 on 5 numbers are terrible and Montreal’s PP is mediocre. This is a fair offer.
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24 déc. 2023 à 14 h 38
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Quoting: Newgod77
His 5 on 5 numbers are terrible and Montreal’s PP is mediocre. This is a fair offer.


Fair for whom? Its not really enough to get Montreal to trade him rather than try to re-sign him since Montreal doesn't need Myers and don't need later picks.
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24 déc. 2023 à 14 h 58
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Quoting: Newgod77
His 5 on 5 numbers are terrible and Montreal’s PP is mediocre. This is a fair offer.


Whatever the point is moot. Word is that Hugo is leaning towards extending him and this package won’t make him decide to trade him instead.
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24 déc. 2023 à 15 h 37
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His 5 on 5 numbers are terrible and Montreal’s PP is mediocre. This is a fair offer.


Fair offer... from TB's perspective, again.
From Montreal's perspective, they decline. Period.

If yyou put yourself in Kent Hughes shoes, do you think you can get a team to offer more? Or you go with that offer?
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24 déc. 2023 à 15 h 39
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His 5 on 5 numbers are terrible and Montreal’s PP is mediocre. This is a fair offer.


@SomeonesOffended I know you agree dude; Kent Hughes can get a better offer for Monahan. And if that's the ultimate best offer he is given, he will extend him. No one wants that package
24 déc. 2023 à 15 h 50
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Why would the Habs make this trade? 🙄
24 déc. 2023 à 16 h 18
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Habs definitely decline
24 déc. 2023 à 16 h 18
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Quoting: Newgod77
His 5 on 5 numbers are terrible and Montreal’s PP is mediocre. This is a fair offer.


no it isn't lol. it's like me saying Swayman is only worth a 1st because he doens't get all the starts..
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24 déc. 2023 à 17 h 44
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You know nothing JS
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Quoting: Newgod77
His 5 on 5 numbers are terrible and Montreal’s PP is mediocre. This is a fair offer.


Yet he has more point than Cirelli, Paul and Jeannot.

Hater gonna hate.
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25 déc. 2023 à 9 h 6
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Yet he has more point than Cirelli, Paul and Jeannot.

Hater gonna hate.


Those players all have more 5 on 5 goals.
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25 déc. 2023 à 10 h 24
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You know nothing JS
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Quoting: Newgod77
Those players all have more 5 on 5 goals.
Fanboys gonna fanboy


Merry Christmas! Enjoy all those cherries you picked!
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Quoting: Newgod77
Those players all have more 5 on 5 goals.
Fanboys gonna fanboy


Monahan got a 1st round pick.
Habs fans are extremely happy.
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Monahan got a 1st round pick.
Habs fans are extremely happy.


Steen drove up the price for ya
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Steen drove up the price for ya


It was ALWAYS about market value, and supply and demand.
But Hab-haters-meatheads aren't able to compute that past their hate, and sso they like to bash Monahan and resort to humiliate themselves.

Everyone knew he would get a 1st.
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It was ALWAYS about market value, and supply and demand.
But Hab-haters-meatheads aren't able to compute that past their hate, and sso they like to bash Monahan and resort to humiliate themselves.

Everyone knew he would get a 1st.


Dumb GMs still exist. He provides no value 5 on 5
 
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