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Équipe: 2023-24 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 5 déc. 2023
Publié: 5 déc. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Accurate/Prorated
LTIR activée: Oui
Journées à la saison: 192
Journées restantes: 135
Saison restante: 70%
Masse salariale projetée avant les jours restants Info-bulle : 87 026 276 $
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UFAANSCAP HIT
11 500 000 $
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  1. Anderson, Josh
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2026 (MTL)
Détails additionnels:
3rd is for the extra year on Andersons contract.
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $83 480 417 $850 000 $0 $19 583 $
Masse salariale proratée

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4 750 000 $3 339 844 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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C, AG
UFA - 1
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6 650 000 $4 675 781 $
AD
UFA - 2
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8 000 000 $5 625 000 $
C, AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 7
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8 700 000 $6 117 188 $
C, AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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5 500 000 $3 867 188 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 900 000 $1 335 938 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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1 600 000 $1 125 000 $
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UFA - 2
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1 100 000 $773 438 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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825 000 $580 078 $
AG
UFA - 1
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883 750 $621 387 $
C
RFA - 1
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1 150 000 $808 594 $
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UFA - 1
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775 000 $544 922 $
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7 850 000 $5 519 531 $
DG
UFA - 4
1 500 000 $1 054 688 $
DD
UFA - 2
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5 000 000 $3 515 625 $
G
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 750 000 $2 636 719 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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4 400 000 $3 093 750 $
DD
RFA - 1
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1 800 000 $1 265 625 $
G
UFA - 1
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3 000 000 $2 109 375 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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2 750 000 $1 933 594 $
DD
UFA - 3
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3 250 000 $2 285 156 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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2 500 000 $1 757 813 $
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5 déc. 2023 à 15 h 35
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5 déc. 2023 à 15 h 37
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I'd much rather have Garland and Laine is not a Tocchet guy
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5 déc. 2023 à 15 h 41
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This team kills me
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I think this just makes the team worse
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5 déc. 2023 à 15 h 42
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Garland is a much better player than Anderson. It would take Montreal’s unprotected 2024 1st minimum for the Canucks to make that swap
5 déc. 2023 à 15 h 55
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You know nothing JS
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MTL.does.not.want.your.small.wingers.
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5 déc. 2023 à 15 h 58
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Both trades are awful.
Both trades decline.
5 déc. 2023 à 16 h 8
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Vancouver would be dumb to do that Montreal deal
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5 déc. 2023 à 16 h 15
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Habs decline. Anderson has been back on track for several games now and Garland is just as ****ty except hes 5'10 and doesnt fight people.
5 déc. 2023 à 16 h 24
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Quoting: mv21227
Garland is a much better player than Anderson. It would take Montreal’s unprotected 2024 1st minimum for the Canucks to make that swap


And on which criteria you based this comparison? Both players are completely different. Anderson bring a lot more than just goal and assists. Garland is a useless if he doesn’t contribute often on the score sheet. Both are having underperforming season by their standard. To me both players are depth role players who earn to much money. I rather have Anderson when playoffs come, but this is me. People might prefer a small winger to play bottom 6 minutes i guess.
5 déc. 2023 à 16 h 40
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Quoting: Joblow
And on which criteria you based this comparison? Both players are completely different. Anderson bring a lot more than just goal and assists. Garland is a useless if he doesn’t contribute often on the score sheet. Both are having underperforming season by their standard. To me both players are depth role players who earn to much money. I rather have Anderson when playoffs come, but this is me. People might prefer a small winger to play bottom 6 minutes i guess.


Anderson is useless apart from being able to hit and skate fast. Despite being on PP1 he can’t score anymore, is awful at passing, and is awful defensively

Garland when he isn’t scoring is still very good at driving play and creating scoring chances, while also being good defensively

Then scoring wise, Anderson, despite being a full time NHLer for 7 years prior to this season, only has 1 season in his career above 32 points and above 0.5 PPG, which was 5 years ago

Meanwhile Garland has scored more than 32 points and above a 0.5 PPG in 4 out of his 5 NHL seasons prior to this season

So Garland is much better offensively, much better defensively, and much better at driving play

All Anderson is better at is hitting and can skate a bit faster than Garland (Garland is still a good skater though)
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5 déc. 2023 à 16 h 54
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MTL.does.not.want.your.small.wingers.


yes tf we do if it means Anderson is gone
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5 déc. 2023 à 16 h 55
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Habs decline. Anderson has been back on track for several games now and Garland is just as ****ty except hes 5'10 and doesnt fight people.


He has 1 emtpy net goal. He went 0% WAR to 1% WAR. He stinks. Garland is a much better player, id even give up more to never see Anderson in a Habs jersey again
5 déc. 2023 à 18 h 1
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Quoting: JeffGorton
He has 1 emtpy net goal. He went 0% WAR to 1% WAR. He stinks. Garland is a much better player, id even give up more to never see Anderson in a Habs jersey again


In reality though Habs management doesn't think this way. They don't trade him for Garland when they don't have a lot of size up front and as much as people don't like to admit it size still plays a factor in the NHL
5 déc. 2023 à 18 h 50
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I would never want to see Laine on the Canucks. Bad....REALLY bad contract for two more years after this. We can't saddle our team with more bad deals like this. We're almost rid of the ones we have. Same comment on Josh Andersen. Although Garland and Andersen are similar underperformers, I'll take the cheaper one who has one year less left on his contract.
5 déc. 2023 à 19 h 30
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You know nothing JS
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yes tf we do if it means Anderson is gone


Well you would be a terrible GM then. Size matters and Montreal has no big foward except Slaf and Anderson. Can't win with Caufield, Gally, Roy, Newhook, Farrell and Mesar as a top 9.
5 déc. 2023 à 19 h 43
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Laine would not fit in well in Van. We already have his spot on the pp taken by Petey. And after that his effort level just brings the whole team down.
5 déc. 2023 à 19 h 44
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Well you would be a terrible GM then. Size matters and Montreal has no big foward except Slaf and Anderson. Can't win with Caufield, Gally, Roy, Newhook, Farrell and Mesar as a top 9.


Size hasnt mattered for at least 10 years now. And even then, the habs arent competing any time soon so why pay depth role player when you could get a player with top 6 point numbers when firing. What you want is horrific asset management.
5 déc. 2023 à 20 h 22
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Size hasnt mattered for at least 10 years now. And even then, the habs arent competing any time soon so why pay depth role player when you could get a player with top 6 point numbers when firing. What you want is horrific asset management.


You don't even know what asset management means.

Go back to makes endless spam level trades about 4x1st for a UFA...
5 déc. 2023 à 20 h 38
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Anderson is useless apart from being able to hit and skate fast. Despite being on PP1 he can’t score anymore, is awful at passing, and is awful defensively

Garland when he isn’t scoring is still very good at driving play and creating scoring chances, while also being good defensively

Then scoring wise, Anderson, despite being a full time NHLer for 7 years prior to this season, only has 1 season in his career above 32 points and above 0.5 PPG, which was 5 years ago

Meanwhile Garland has scored more than 32 points and above a 0.5 PPG in 4 out of his 5 NHL seasons prior to this season

So Garland is much better offensively, much better defensively, and much better at driving play

All Anderson is better at is hitting and can skate a bit faster than Garland (Garland is still a good skater though)


My point is those 2 players are totally different and tomsay that Garland is a far better player doesn’t make sense at all since both of them are role players. Anderson bring a element that everyteam is looking for. He is big, fast, can score 20 goal a season and he destroyed defender with crushing hit. In the playoff, that those kind of difference you need to win a serie. Getting crush by Anderson game after game, defenseman start to turn de puck around.
I like Garland but saying he is a better player just doesn’t make sense. Anderson just bring a different package. Like i said before there more than only point in hockey. I will take Pietrangelo and Doughty anytime over Karlsson.
5 déc. 2023 à 20 h 47
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My point is those 2 players are totally different and tomsay that Garland is a far better player doesn’t make sense at all since both of them are role players. Anderson bring a element that everyteam is looking for. He is big, fast, can score 20 goal a season and he destroyed defender with crushing hit. In the playoff, that those kind of difference you need to win a serie. Getting crush by Anderson game after game, defenseman start to turn de puck around.
I like Garland but saying he is a better player just doesn’t make sense. Anderson just bring a different package. Like i said before there more than only point in hockey. I will take Pietrangelo and Doughty anytime over Karlsson.


Garland is also capable of scoring 20 goals. He had a 20 goal pace in 4 out of 5 NHL seasons prior to this year, with his lowest being a 17 goal pace. Anderson scored at a 20 goal pace in 5 out of 7 NHL seasons prior to this year, with his lowest being a 3 goal pace. The only thing Anderson is significantly better than Garland at is hitting, which doesn’t provide much value. And I know there’s more to hockey and player evaluations than just points. There’s defensive play, which Garland is good at and Anderson is awful at. There’s play driving, which Garland excels at. There’s skating ability, which Anderson and Garland are both good at. Overall

Offensive ability: Garland >> Anderson
Defensive ability: Garland >>>>> Anderson
Play driving ability: Garland >>>> Anderson
Skating ability: Garland < Anderson
Physical ability: Garland <<<< Anderson

Give me the player who’s better offensively, defensively, and at play driving over the player who’s better at hitting 100 times out of 100
5 déc. 2023 à 20 h 59
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Garland is also capable of scoring 20 goals. He had a 20 goal pace in 4 out of 5 NHL seasons prior to this year, with his lowest being a 17 goal pace. Anderson scored at a 20 goal pace in 5 out of 7 NHL seasons prior to this year, with his lowest being a 3 goal pace. The only thing Anderson is significantly better than Garland at is hitting, which doesn’t provide much value. And I know there’s more to hockey and player evaluations than just points. There’s defensive play, which Garland is good at and Anderson is awful at. There’s play driving, which Garland excels at. There’s skating ability, which Anderson and Garland are both good at. Overall

Offensive ability: Garland >> Anderson
Defensive ability: Garland >>>>> Anderson
Play driving ability: Garland >>>> Anderson
Skating ability: Garland < Anderson
Physical ability: Garland <<<< Anderson

Give me the player who’s better offensively, defensively, and at play driving over the player who’s better at hitting 100 times out of 100


Ok kid there no point of talking with you. There 3-4-5 Connor Garland on each team. There team that doesn’t even have a guy’s like Anderson. Why you think each team every single year trade for big body’s. Everysingle coach in the NHL who replace Garland on the bottom six with a 6’3’’ monster who put’s up a 20 goal pace a year. Anderson is no good when he start playing like a Connor Garland. That not what he does and fancy hockey have not work with him. Hard forecheck, big hits and driving the net. That what he does.
Kent Hugues would never entertain the idea of trading Anderson for Garland.
5 déc. 2023 à 21 h 12
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Ok kid there no point of talking with you. There 3-4-5 Connor Garland on each team. There team that doesn’t even have a guy’s like Anderson. Why you think each team every single year trade for big body’s. Everysingle coach in the NHL who replace Garland on the bottom six with a 6’3’’ monster who put’s up a 20 goal pace a year. Anderson is no good when he start playing like a Connor Garland. That not what he does and fancy hockey have not work with him. Hard forecheck, big hits and driving the net. That what he does.
Kent Hugues would never entertain the idea of trading Anderson for Garland.


Patrick Allvin would never entertain the idea of trading Garland for Anderson. Why would he want to downgrade the bottom 6 and acquire one of the 10 worst contracts in the whole league? Why would he want to acquire a guy who’s only been able to score 1 empty net goal in 25 games despite playing on PP1 all year? Why would he want to acquire someone who’s a complete liability in his own zone? Because he can skate fast and hit? William Carrier does that except he can also play extremely well defensively yet he only makes 1.4M

Habs fans need to accept that Anderson is an awful player with an awful contract and that nobody wants him. There are a few that have realized it, but most Habs fans are still delusional about Anderson
5 déc. 2023 à 21 h 18
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Size hasnt mattered for at least 10 years now. And even then, the habs arent competing any time soon so why pay depth role player when you could get a player with top 6 point numbers when firing. What you want is horrific asset management.


Size doesn’t matter…that’s funny.
 
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