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Trading Bert

Créé par: Rajvinder
Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 22 oct. 2023
Publié: 22 oct. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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I know he is injured but if he continues to play poorly and can't find chemistry it could be worth considering.
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  1. Garland, Conor (1 950 000 $ retained)
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22 oct. 2023 à 12 h 21
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Boston just isn't trading Carlo, certainly not for that anyway.

Vancouver would be foolish to make that trade.
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22 oct. 2023 à 12 h 23
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The Canucks aren’t retaining 2M on Garland just to trade him for AHL players. They want an NHL RD while saving a bit of salary
22 oct. 2023 à 12 h 24
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Yeah I’m sure the bruins have no problem giving up Carlo for Bert as a rental again after he didn’t re-up with them last time. Seems like a very Boston thing to do…
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22 oct. 2023 à 12 h 24
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The Canucks aren’t retaining 2M on Garland just to trade him for AHL players. They want an NHL RD while saving a bit of salary


They aren't getting value for garland. You need cap space and he's overpaid
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22 oct. 2023 à 12 h 25
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You love garland eh?
22 oct. 2023 à 12 h 26
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Lmao. Boston declines. Counter with Carlo, DeBrusk, and a 1st for Matthews and TL. 😅
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22 oct. 2023 à 12 h 30
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They aren't getting value for garland. You need cap space and he's overpaid


He’s overpaid by maybe 0.5M at most. With 1M+ of retention he’s a good value
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22 oct. 2023 à 12 h 30
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Carlo isn’t being traded
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22 oct. 2023 à 12 h 43
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Lol, no.
22 oct. 2023 à 13 h 7
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He’s overpaid by maybe 0.5M at most. With 1M+ of retention he’s a good value


That's your hope but he wants out, and hasn't been the fit you guys hoped for. So his value is not high and your negotiation power is non existent. You are getting rid of him for cap reasons and he wants out. It's going to hurt
22 oct. 2023 à 16 h 4
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Boston just isn't trading Carlo, certainly not for that anyway.

Vancouver would be foolish to make that trade.


Quoting: mv21227
The Canucks aren’t retaining 2M on Garland just to trade him for AHL players. They want an NHL RD while saving a bit of salary


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That's your hope but he wants out, and hasn't been the fit you guys hoped for. So his value is not high and your negotiation power is non existent. You are getting rid of him for cap reasons and he wants out. It's going to hurt


This is a great video I'd recommend anyone who is going to comment on Garland trades should watch. It goes indepth into the situation and what has been offered/rejected.

I know for a fact what Frank says here about Chicago being offered a 2nd, Garland ($1.45M retained) for Future Considerations and that being turned down is true.

As Frank says in the video the problem is term. Garland has one season with more than 20 goals and one season with more than 50 points. Production wise he's comparable to Jarnkrok. He's a high end 3rd liner.

Even with retention $3.5M for 3 years is still a cap dump based on his production and play.

That is before you factor in Vancouver's situation, him publicly pushing his way out, potential attitude issues (the way he has pushed his way out implies there are some), his potential to be a bad fit (as he was in Vancouver), etc.

On a 1 year deal the risk could be worth it. With 3 years left, a team could end up in a buyout situation really quickly. Nobody is paying to put themselves in that position. Very similar to Kane and San Jose where even at 50% retained nobody would touch him. Risk makes sense on a one year deal but not on anything with term.

Vancouver is paying to dump here.

https://youtu.be/pfBMJAFCyUE?si=azWbWBPAa8AefYY6
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22 oct. 2023 à 17 h 0
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leafs wouldn’t do either
22 oct. 2023 à 18 h 30
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I believe Boston is going to take the money they would have given to Bertuzzi and give it to DeBrusk.

If they decide they don’t want to sign DeBrusk to a long term contract, I could see a Bertuzzi for DeBrusk type swap with other salary filler but it would require backchannel that Bertuzzi will agree to an extension. Otherwise, he’s not worth it
22 oct. 2023 à 21 h 9
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Boston does this why?
23 oct. 2023 à 10 h 10
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Quoting: Rajvinder
This is a great video I'd recommend anyone who is going to comment on Garland trades should watch. It goes indepth into the situation and what has been offered/rejected.

I know for a fact what Frank says here about Chicago being offered a 2nd, Garland ($1.45M retained) for Future Considerations and that being turned down is true.

As Frank says in the video the problem is term. Garland has one season with more than 20 goals and one season with more than 50 points. Production wise he's comparable to Jarnkrok. He's a high end 3rd liner.

Even with retention $3.5M for 3 years is still a cap dump based on his production and play.

That is before you factor in Vancouver's situation, him publicly pushing his way out, potential attitude issues (the way he has pushed his way out implies there are some), his potential to be a bad fit (as he was in Vancouver), etc.

On a 1 year deal the risk could be worth it. With 3 years left, a team could end up in a buyout situation really quickly. Nobody is paying to put themselves in that position. Very similar to Kane and San Jose where even at 50% retained nobody would touch him. Risk makes sense on a one year deal but not on anything with term.

Vancouver is paying to dump here.

https://youtu.be/pfBMJAFCyUE?si=azWbWBPAa8AefYY6


PPG by season since Garland entered the league

Garland:
22/23: 0.57
21/22: 0.68
20/21: 0.80
19/20: 0.57
18/19: 0.38

Jarnkrok:
22/23: 0.53
21/22: 0.45
20/21: 0.57
19/20: 0.53
18/19: 0.33

Garland career PPG: 0.60

Jarnkrok career PPG: 0.42

His production is quite a bit better than Jarnkrok. At 3.5M he’s a great value contract
23 oct. 2023 à 14 h 15
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Quoting: mv21227
PPG by season since Garland entered the league

Garland:
22/23: 0.57
21/22: 0.68
20/21: 0.80
19/20: 0.57
18/19: 0.38

Jarnkrok:
22/23: 0.53
21/22: 0.45
20/21: 0.57
19/20: 0.53
18/19: 0.33

Garland career PPG: 0.60

Jarnkrok career PPG: 0.42

His production is quite a bit better than Jarnkrok. At 3.5M he’s a great value contract


Try that with P/60
23 oct. 2023 à 14 h 34
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Try that with P/60


Garland P/60 by season:
22/23: All Situations: 2.3 5v5: 1.8
21/22: All Situations: 2.5 5v5: 2.6
20/21: All Situations: 2.7 5v5: 2.4
19/20: All Situations: 2.4 5v5: 2.1
18/19: All Situations: 1.8 5v5: 1.5

Jarnkrok P/60 by season
22/23: All Situations: 2.2 5v5: 2.1
21/22: All Situations: 1.7 5v5: 1.5
20/21: All Situations: 2.0 5v5: 1.5
19/20: All Situations: 2.0 5v5: 1.6
18/19: All Situations: 1.3 5v5: 1.1

Jarnkrok was only ahead at 5v5 last season, when his most common linemates were Marner, Tavares, and Matthews while Garland’s were Miller, Horvat, Joshua, and Aman
 
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