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Équipe: 2023-24 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 18 oct. 2023
Publié: 18 oct. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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  1. Pinto, Shane [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2025 (OTT)
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NMC
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4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
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UFA - 2
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
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UFA - 5
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 5
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 850 000 $$2M)
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18 oct. 2023 à 16 h 13
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Why would you trade Pinto for scraps?
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18 oct. 2023 à 16 h 16
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Chicago fleeces you.
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18 oct. 2023 à 16 h 16
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Quoting: MrAicrow2009
Why would you trade Pinto for scraps?


Comments like this are why OTT fans think they should be trading Pinto for Bedard lmao. Raddysh literally had more points than him in Raddysh’s first full year in the league on a much worse team. They would be lucky to get this offer for Pinto it would be more than enough.
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18 oct. 2023 à 16 h 18
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Comments like this are why OTT fans think they should be trading Pinto for Bedard lmao. Raddysh literally had more points than him in Raddysh’s first full year in the league on a much worse team. They would be lucky to get this offer for Pinto it would be more than enough.


Pinto has potential, Katchook and Raddysh are older
18 oct. 2023 à 16 h 20
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Quoting: GMDannyB
Comments like this are why OTT fans think they should be trading Pinto for Bedard lmao. Raddysh literally had more points than him in Raddysh’s first full year in the league on a much worse team. They would be lucky to get this offer for Pinto it would be more than enough.


Did it ever occur to you that both Katchouk and Raddysh were on the Canadian World Junior team from 2018 ?

Ottawa has zero interest in making this trade.

Try again.
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18 oct. 2023 à 16 h 24
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Hawks should do that
18 oct. 2023 à 16 h 26
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I would even let you keep the 7th...but then I wake up and realize the Sens are not doing this.
18 oct. 2023 à 16 h 55
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Quoting: sensonfire
Did it ever occur to you that both Katchouk and Raddysh were on the Canadian World Junior team from 2018 ?

Ottawa has zero interest in making this trade.

Try again.


Well yeah the conclusion of the investigation would have to come before any of them are traded that’s why Hart wasn’t moved this summer either but I just go on the basis that that’s assumed at this point
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18 oct. 2023 à 16 h 55
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Pinto has potential, Katchook and Raddysh are older


So 25 means u no longer have any potential? Raddysh was just buried under a really good Tampa team for years lmao
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18 oct. 2023 à 16 h 56
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So 25 means u no longer have any potential? Raddysh was just buried under a really good Tampa team for years lmao


Raddysh is a 4th line player at best
18 oct. 2023 à 16 h 57
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Quoting: GMDannyB
Comments like this are why OTT fans think they should be trading Pinto for Bedard lmao. Raddysh literally had more points than him in Raddysh’s first full year in the league on a much worse team. They would be lucky to get this offer for Pinto it would be more than enough.


That's a ridiculous statement. How was Raddysh doing at 22 years old? In this move, Ottawa would essentially be getting this year and next of Raddysh before he's eligible to be a UFA. I wont comment on katchouk because I don't put any value on him and he's in the same boat as Raddysh UFA wise. Chicago gets 4+ years of a young centre trending in the right direction. I'm not saying pinto is worth bedard but surely you don't actually think this is fair.. you just hate sens fans lmao
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18 oct. 2023 à 16 h 58
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Quoting: MrAicrow2009
Raddysh is a 4th line player at best


158 posts today lol, what’s ur other account name? Nobody is this familiar with the site unless ur using a burner
18 oct. 2023 à 17 h 0
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Quoting: Talking_Senators
That's a ridiculous statement. How was Raddysh doing at 22 years old? In this move, Ottawa would essentially be getting this year and next of Raddysh before he's eligible to be a UFA. I wont comment on katchouk because I don't put any value on him and he's in the same boat as Raddysh UFA wise. Chicago gets 4+ years of a young centre trending in the right direction. I'm not saying pinto is worth bedard but surely you don't actually think this is fair.. you just hate sens fans lmao


Raddysh was buried under one of the best teams we have seen in a decade or two lol Pinto was gifted a spot on a rebuilding team if you don’t understand the difference please don’t bother continuing this conversation lol
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18 oct. 2023 à 17 h 1
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158 posts today lol, what’s ur other account name? Nobody is this familiar with the site unless ur using a burner


I have used this site for 2-3 Years and just signed in for the first time yesterday
Research before you say
18 oct. 2023 à 17 h 2
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I have used this site for 2-3 Years and just signed in for the first time yesterday
Research before you say


Sure bud lol
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18 oct. 2023 à 17 h 4
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Sure bud lol


Pinto is better than Katchook and Raddysh, you need to think
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18 oct. 2023 à 17 h 5
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Pinto is better than Katchook and Raddysh, you need to think


Nah but ur welcome to think that
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18 oct. 2023 à 17 h 8
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Nah but ur welcome to think that


Think? i KNOW he is better
18 oct. 2023 à 18 h 7
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Quoting: GMDannyB
Comments like this are why OTT fans think they should be trading Pinto for Bedard lmao. Raddysh literally had more points than him in Raddysh’s first full year in the league on a much worse team. They would be lucky to get this offer for Pinto it would be more than enough.


How is 2021-22 (74 games with 11G / 11A) a better first full year in the league? And that was his 4th year pro.
18 oct. 2023 à 18 h 10
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Even without the 2018 Canadian World Junior team, that's really not the type of return Sens would be looking for Pinto, IF they were looking to trade him. And his value is definitely more than that, because there's something called PROJECTABILITY, something that the TROLL in this thread has no idea what it means. Nevermind whatever he says, it's just verbiage.

Quoting: sensonfire
Did it ever occur to you that both Katchouk and Raddysh were on the Canadian World Junior team from 2018 ?

Ottawa has zero interest in making this trade.

Try again.

But that's not the MAIN thing. Notice how he says "Comments like this are why OTT fans..."

But the guy he is quoting is a Penguins/Panthers fan...

Like we say in my country, Il a été fini à la pisse celui-là tears of joy
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How is 2021-22 (74 games with 11G / 11A) a better first full year in the league? And that was his 4th year pro.


I meant first full year on one team. It’s almost as if a 23 year old kid moving across the country might take a small toll on him lol. He was barely getting any minutes on Tampa hence why he was at 0.5 PPG in those 21 games in Chicago but only 0.2 PPG in Tampa
18 oct. 2023 à 19 h 29
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Quoting: GMDannyB
So 25 means u no longer have any potential? Raddysh was just buried under a really good Tampa team for years lmao


A few things.... Pinto would be a 2nd line center on most teams.... He could potentially be a 2nd line center if Norris is hurt. Centers automatically have more value. I actually like Raddysh but I don't think he ever rises above a 3rd line player.... I could be wrong for sure, just don't think he has much ceiling left. Pinto has a lot more ceiling left. Plus Ottawa has Jarventie, Crookshank, Sokolov, Pettersson, Ostapchuk, & Boucher for wingers that could potentially play on lines 2-4. Ottawa would likely prefer a center if they are moving Pinto out.
18 oct. 2023 à 19 h 30
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Quoting: Riddick1919
A few things.... Pinto would be a 2nd line center on most teams.... He could potentially be a 2nd line center if Norris is hurt. Centers automatically have more value. I actually like Raddysh but I don't think he ever rises above a 3rd line player.... I could be wrong for sure, just don't think he has much ceiling left. Pinto has a lot more ceiling left. Plus Ottawa has Jarventie, Crookshank, Sokolov, Pettersson, Ostapchuk, & Boucher for wingers that could potentially play on lines 2-4. Ottawa would likely prefer a center if they are moving Pinto out.


I agree they would want a center back but Raddysh has just as much value as Pinto currently does if not more even if Pinto has a higher ceiling
18 oct. 2023 à 19 h 35
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Quoting: GMDannyB
I agree they would want a center back but Raddysh has just as much value as Pinto currently does if not more even if Pinto has a higher ceiling


What? If Pinto has a higher ceiling.... How does Raddysh have more value? Pinto scored 20 goals as a rookie. Raddysh was something like 23 when he scored 20 goals.... Not sure how you figure he could potentially have more value than Pinto? Pinto has team control for another 5 years.... Raddysh only 2.... He also has arbitration rights... Pinto doesn't... Making Pinto far more valuable.
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18 oct. 2023 à 19 h 47
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Quoting: GMDannyB
I meant first full year on one team. It’s almost as if a 23 year old kid moving across the country might take a small toll on him lol. He was barely getting any minutes on Tampa hence why he was at 0.5 PPG in those 21 games in Chicago but only 0.2 PPG in Tampa


Your last sentence completely defeats your narrative of being traded hurting his numbers that you had in the first two sentences of that post.

Okay, so you want to give him a pass on that season and call 74 games "not a full season" so that you can compare his 5th year pro to Pinto's 2nd pro season and say that Raddysh is better. A 6th year pro winger who scored 20 once, compared to a 22yo C who scored 20 in the NHL in his first full pro season....... when Raddysh didn't score 20 in the AHL at the same age.

Raddysh isn't a bad player, but he's not the player or prospect that Pinto is by a long shot.
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