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canes shouldnt take an underpay for pesce

Créé par: fullblowncaniac90
Équipe: 2023-24 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 5 sept. 2023
Publié: 5 sept. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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These are some examples of trades for Pesce that I've seen here that I would be happy with. Now you may say most of them are overpays, but in my opinion, the Canes shouldn't just take any low ball offer.

They're in a position where, even if they can't keep Pesce past this year, they don't have to trade him. They're not rebuilding, they're a top 5 team in the league. And Pesce is an important piece to their defense core. They're not taking scraps. And being one of the longest tenured Canes on the roster, I think he deserves at least one more shot at a cup here.

Though, there's two scenarios where they should consider trading him. One, for someone who would be a major roster upgrade like Nylander. Or a package that includes some decent futures to maybe spend at the tdl to add to the forward core, and a solid young centerpiece to the deal that can be a part of the core for the future. Like Krebs, Bourque, Harley or Liljegren. If they can't get a deal like this, they shouldn't trade him, and they should be happy to keep him.
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CAR
  1. Liljegren, Timothy
  2. Nylander, William
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picks to balance
TOR
  1. Pesce, Brett
  2. Teräväinen, Teuvo
Détails additionnels:
picks to balance
2.
CAR
  1. Hirvonen, Roni
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
Détails additionnels:
Liljegren, Timothy
TOR
    Pesce, Brett
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    CAR
    1. Jokiharju, Henri
    2. Krebs, Peyton
    3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (BUF)
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      Pesce, Brett
      4.
      CAR
      1. Harley, Thomas
      2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (DAL)
      DAL
        Pesce, Brett
        5.
        CAR
        1. Lundkvist, Nils
        Détails additionnels:
        2024 1st round pick (DAL)
        DAL
          Pesce, Brett
          6.
          CAR
          1. Bourque, Mavrik
          2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (DAL)
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            Pesce, Brett
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            5 sept. 2023 à 7 h 29
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            How dare you use logic and facts on CapFriendly!
            5 sept. 2023 à 7 h 30
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            If it's Nylander+Lilly, Necas or Jarvis would come back the other way instead of Teuvo
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            5 sept. 2023 à 7 h 32
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            If he's worth those packages, then pay the man what he's worth.
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            5 sept. 2023 à 7 h 34
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            The leafs shouldn't accept an underpay for Nylander.
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            5 sept. 2023 à 8 h 7
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            Just don't see many paying that price for a possible rental. And think Pesce would give us are strongest D group in awhile. But not at that for possibly 1 year
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            5 sept. 2023 à 8 h 22
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            Nah they should trade him to LA at 75% for two thirds.
            5 sept. 2023 à 8 h 31
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            Quoting: RipNasty
            The leafs shouldn't accept an underpay for Nylander.


            Yes exactly they can do the same thing as the Canes and just keep him for the season.
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            5 sept. 2023 à 8 h 45
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            Quoting: python3504
            Yes exactly they can do the same thing as the Canes and just keep him for the season.


            Or keep him for another 9 seasons.
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            5 sept. 2023 à 8 h 48
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            I’d do that second leaf’s deal
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            5 sept. 2023 à 9 h 10
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            How about they keep him and have the best defense in the NHL? Why trade him away at all making another team better?
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            5 sept. 2023 à 9 h 24
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            Quoting: RipNasty
            Or keep him for another 9 seasons.


            yeah if it works out, the price needs to be right.
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            5 sept. 2023 à 9 h 38
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            Quoting: python3504
            yeah if it works out, the price needs to be right.


            9.5 or less and it's fine
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            5 sept. 2023 à 9 h 46
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            Yeah Pesce doesn't get you Nylander, let alone Liljegren. Easy pass from Toronto
            5 sept. 2023 à 10 h 29
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            Quoting: Caniac2000
            How dare you use logic and facts on CapFriendly!


            You can't say logic when your "logic" is just a one sided trade. You have to pay to improve and thinking you can unload secondary players for elite talent is not logical, its larceny. Nylander is elite, Pesce is not, you will never get Nylander for Pesce
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            5 sept. 2023 à 10 h 30
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            Quoting: Brad_Treliving
            Yeah Pesce doesn't get you Nylander, let alone Liljegren. Easy pass from Toronto


            I would give up Liljegren plus for Pesce but never would he get Nylander. It would cost a lot more than Pesce to get Nylander.
            5 sept. 2023 à 11 h 34
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            LOL and they complain us TML fans make lopsided trade proposals. A 2nd pair defense gets those returns wow.Take Liljegren out of 1st one then maybe. And the 2nd one how can you just throw Liljegren in a trade as a maybe add him? He alone gets a 1st pick plus just like Sandin did. The 2nd trade without Liljegren is already too high on CAR side.
            5 sept. 2023 à 11 h 36
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            Quoting: SomeonesOffended
            I’d do that second leaf’s deal


            You noticed he also added Lijegren in that 2nd trade so it s Hirvonen , Liljegren a 1st and a 3rd and you like it lamo wow that is a a complete garbage trade for TML.
            5 sept. 2023 à 11 h 49
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            Quoting: Leafsmustwin
            You noticed he also added Lijegren in that 2nd trade so it s Hirvonen , Liljegren a 1st and a 3rd and you like it lamo wow that is a a complete garbage trade for TML.


            Yeah Pesce is a million times better than lily
            5 sept. 2023 à 14 h 3
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            And Dallas shouldn’t trade their young dmen for an older one on an expiring contract
            7 sept. 2023 à 23 h 15
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            I don't mind the 2nd leafs trade. But we wouldn't have that cap to take on Pesce at that point.
            That's why Liljegren is important to us at the moment.
            8 sept. 2023 à 0 h 58
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            If I am BT I would say DEAL to trade 1. I think it helps both sides.

            Teravainen with Matthews and Bertuzzi is nasty and I think Pesce slides in well beside Reilly.

            Assume Carolina is retaining on both?
             
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