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Who says no

Créé par: Violentgent
Équipe: 2023-24 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 4 sept. 2023
Publié: 4 sept. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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EDM
  1. DeBrusk, Jake
  2. McAvoy, Charlie
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (BOS)
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EDM
  1. Chabot, Thomas
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (OTT)
OTT
  1. Nurse, Darnell
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (EDM)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (BOS)
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4 sept. 2023 à 20 h 9
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The right side of this team is SCARY. The bad kind.
4 sept. 2023 à 20 h 13
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Edmonton and Ottawa
4 sept. 2023 à 20 h 14
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Edmonton says no to every trade
Nurse>Chabot
4 sept. 2023 à 20 h 15
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Boston says no.

Mcavoy signed long term through his prime on a deal that is a steal now and will be even more in a few season when cap is up, where as drai is coming up on a 12+ mill
4 sept. 2023 à 20 h 29
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Objectively, the value here is actually pretty even. But there is zero chance either team is giving up those players lol. Don't blame both sides for being pissed at this.
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4 sept. 2023 à 21 h 1
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Boston says no rather quickly.
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4 sept. 2023 à 21 h 21
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Ottawa says no.

One can argue who's better, Chabot or Nurse. Nurse has been healthier, where as Chabot puts up similar points in fewer games. Ottawa is hoping that since they have a good top 4, that Chabot will be healthier and more productive now that they don't need to ride him 30+ mins a night. Personally, I don't think Chabot is untouchable.

The main issue, as I see it, is the contracts. Nurse costs more, has more term, and he's older. Sens have no cap space as is, and will need to sign Sanderson. That Nurse contract willjust be an albatross, and cost picks to make go away. At least Chabot is younger, has shorter term during his prime years. Makes no sense to bring in a 9.5x7 D if he's not going to be your top guy (Sanderson is), and screw up your cap space.
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4 sept. 2023 à 21 h 57
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Whatever difference in value there is between McAvoy and Draisaitl it certainly isn't Debrusk and a 1st round pick.
4 sept. 2023 à 22 h 37
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I'm very shocked you thought of a trade for Draisaitl that's awful for Edmonton. I feel like the Ottawa trade is ok
4 sept. 2023 à 22 h 43
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Quoting: JKCpp
Edmonton says no to every trade
Nurse>Chabot


Lol no
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4 sept. 2023 à 22 h 56
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Bouchard is very good but at this point McAvoy is still better.
4 sept. 2023 à 23 h 10
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Boston says no rather quickly.


You have a chance to get the 2nd best player in the world at 8.5M ur crazy to think Boston would say no
4 sept. 2023 à 23 h 36
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You have a chance to get the 2nd best player in the world at 8.5M ur crazy to think Boston would say no


2nd best scorer in the league, not player. Only 2 years too compared to 7 on Mac. Plus we add a guy with 37 goals in last 82 games, a 1st, and have to take back Sucky. Nope, pass.
5 sept. 2023 à 0 h 29
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2nd best scorer in the league, not player. Only 2 years too compared to 7 on Mac. Plus we add a guy with 37 goals in last 82 games, a 1st, and have to take back Sucky. Nope, pass.


Whatever 3rd or 2nd best player at 8.5M is an absolute steal and all ur losing is Debrusk mcavoy and 1st would definitely have to add pastrnak for the oilers to even consider it.
5 sept. 2023 à 1 h 23
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Whatever 3rd or 2nd best player at 8.5M is an absolute steal and all ur losing is Debrusk mcavoy and 1st would definitely have to add pastrnak for the oilers to even consider it.


Never said Edm would consider it. They wouldn’t. But neither does Boston. 🤷🏻‍♂️
5 sept. 2023 à 3 h 54
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Whatever 3rd or 2nd best player at 8.5M is an absolute steal and all ur losing is Debrusk mcavoy and 1st would definitely have to add pastrnak for the oilers to even consider it.


“All you’re losing is Debrusk, McAvoy, and a 1st”

•McAvoy is one of the 3-4 best dmen in the whole league who’s signed long term at a great AAV. His value is very close to Draisaitl
•Debrusk is a good top 6 winger who probably scores 40+ with McDavid
•There’s no guarantee Boston will be good in 24/25, so that could be a lottery 1st
•You are also dumping Ceci

Saying the Bruins need to add Pastrnak is absurd
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5 sept. 2023 à 8 h 1
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Jesus. Jesus says no.
5 sept. 2023 à 9 h 59
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“All you’re losing is Debrusk, McAvoy, and a 1st”

•McAvoy is one of the 3-4 best dmen in the whole league who’s signed long term at a great AAV. His value is very close to Draisaitl
•Debrusk is a good top 6 winger who probably scores 40+ with McDavid
•There’s no guarantee Boston will be good in 24/25, so that could be a lottery 1st
•You are also dumping Ceci

Saying the Bruins need to add Pastrnak is absurd

I agree with most of this, but Ceci isn't a "dump" by any definition. He's a value contract. He's worth at least a mid-2nd.
 
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