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Forum: Armchair-GM16 mai à 17 h 28
Sujet: cap cuts and more youth
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>I like this idea because I don't think Arizona should be trading Chychrun and thereby surrendering any hope of being relevant this decade.</div></div>

i just think Arizona's asking price for chychrun will be ridiculous, i also just think they won't be losing out much by trading durzi as he will most likely be their 3rd pair guy anyways as Roy proved he was LA's best dman this season and doughty already brings the top tier offence they want from the D, plus just having the depth of clarke and faber who i believe have higher ceilings anyways and then grans who also seems like he will be a solid dman one day makes not to hard of call to trade durzi.

I think sergachev would also just be a good option as his game is somewhat similiar to that of slava voynov's, a solid 2 way dman that plays a physical game and produces above average on the stat sheet, sergachev also has the extra size advantage aswell being 6'3. He also fits their time line well as he is just about to turn 24 and if LA doesn't win in the next few seasons , he will still be apart of their core when they make more runs when he is around 29-30 once byfield, turcotte, clarke, etc are all fully developed nhl players
Forum: Armchair-GM8 mai à 20 h 1
Sujet: my schiefele take
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jets1pt0</b></div><div>Are you suggesting Scheifele is NOT a top line centre? 31 teams have a better C than Scheifele?

Besides, I did say top OFFENSIVE C. Not making any pretenses that he is a Selke threat or the #1 C on a legit contender. He was much better just a few seasons ago. Lots of rumour and innuendo what happened. Regardless, I maintain he is a bonafide top line player, PPG guy for 6 straight seasons. I do believe a change of scenery is needed and he will bounce back (somewhat). And I maintain several teams will be anxious to see if they can add them to their team.

I can admit my ask is bigger than what he will likely return. Can you admit he is worth more than a #4 D?</div></div>

i do think scheifele has a lot of value but i think he will most likely just get futures, the only teams that will want scheifele are top teams in need of another top center so like boston/minnesota/calgary etc but competitive teams also won't want to part ways with key players like the carlo's that winnipeg wants. i see scheifele's haul being like a A level prospect a 1st, maybe a top 6 forward that is being upgraded by scheifele and maybe a young player that could crack a 3rd/4th line
Forum: Armchair-GM7 mai à 18 h 11
Sujet: my schiefele take
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jets1pt0</b></div><div>How many PPG #1 C's have even been traded in the last decade or so?</div></div>

here's a little side note for you
off the last 11 teams to win the cup
there is a total of 7 selke winners that played 1C or was a very strong 2C

Boston (bergeron)
Kings (Kopitar)
Chicago (Toews)
Detroit( Datsyuk and Zetterberg)
Carolina (Rod Brind'Amour)
St Louis (Ryan O'Reilly)

of the other 4 teams their top C's were
Tampa (Point) could arguably compete for a selke one day is very strong defensively probably top 30 in the league but they have Cirelli who literally is a top 7 defensive forward in the league
Anaheim( Getzlaf) not selke level but still strong defensively/ also had 3 teammates who were received selke votes 2 of them being in the top 15
Pitsburgh(crosby) Crosby would have a selke trophy if it wasn't for playing in the same era as kopi, toews, bergy. Crosby is arguably the best 2 way player of all time
Capitals (Backstrom) again another very strong defensive forward who has received selke votes

i could go back further and look if you want but i think i have proven that stanley cup Leading Centers know how to play defence and that is one thing scheifele has no skill in he has finished in the bottom 10 worst defensive forwards for 4 consecutive seasons along with 2 of his teammates Kyle connor and blake wheeler
Forum: Armchair-GM7 mai à 17 h 56
Sujet: my schiefele take
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jets1pt0</b></div><div>How many PPG #1 C's have even been traded in the last decade or so?</div></div>

offence isn't everything i think you don't understand that. scheifele still can't play defence how many teams have won their cup were their best center wasn't good defensively

it is more like how many 1C's have been traded in the last decade and well here you go
-Jack Eichel
-Ryan O'Reilly
-Claude Giroux
-Ryan Johansen (was 1C like back in columbus/ early nashville career)
-tyler seguin
-jeff carter( when traded to LA)
could be a few more but those were the ones that came from the top of my head

only eichel and johansen got a haul that you say scheifele is worth but unfortunately for you both of them were 23-24 when they got those big hauls, scheifele is turning 30 their is a biggest difference there. 2 of those guys had a future not a soon to be past
Forum: Armchair-GM7 mai à 14 h 4
Sujet: my schiefele take
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jets1pt0</b></div><div>Look at the Eichel trade.

Tuch (25 year old guy - 20 goal scorer) + Krebs ( a top Vegas prospect), a 1st and a 2nd.

Scheifele is a lot better offensively than Eichel and signed to a bargain contract. Something along those lines is not an unrealistic ask/expectation in a trade.

I agree Boston is not a great fit. They are not really in a position to trade any top prospects with a below average prospect pool and an aging roster. The only really interesting piece (IMO) in a Scheifele trade is Carlos. If Boston can't give him up then I dont see there being much to discuss.</div></div>


scheifele i think is marginally better if that even eichel put up similiar numbers in buffalo with olofsson and reinahrt as his wingers scheifele has had either connor/ehlers or wheeler way different quality of teammates. another thing is eichel is 5 years younger and another thing is eichel is way way way better defensively

scheifele anayltics
EV offence: 94% PP:81% PK: NA Finishing: 91% G/p60: 67% A1/p60: 95%
EV defence: 2% QOC: 99% QOT: 94%

eicehl analytics(post vegas trade)
EV offence: 88% PP: 94% PK: NA Finishing: 88% G/p60:39% A1/p60: 81%
EV defence: 94% QOC: 59% QOT: 86%

in reality looking at those numbers though scheifele leads offensively by a very small margin eichel dominates the defensive side
eichel has way better 2 way stats while again only being 24 and yet he still didn't even get a top 4 dman so why do you think scheifele will? no one is gonna ruin the integrity of their defence by moving a defensive dman for one of the worst defensive forwards. maybe the barkov/bergy built types can but that is because they can be relied on to help fill that whole
Forum: Armchair-GM5 mai à 18 h 12
Sujet: bring back the big bad bruins
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CMcAvoy73</b></div><div>Ahhhh good. We’re at that point of the season…the point where bruins fans channel their inner felger and Mazz and just start saying soft as much as possible. The bruins were soft last night. No question. I don’t think folks should be too reactionary. But if we’re going to do it, do it right.

Grzelcyk was so far from the problem last night. If you want to hold the guys that were soft last night accountable, lets do it. It starts with Bergeron, Marchand, and Pastrnak. And before we even go down the road, yes, I’m aware that Bergeron had two goals last night. A puck banked in off him, and a rebound landed on his stick with an empty net. That was still his worst game as a professional hockey player. He was horrible.

Pastrnak had a bigger effect on that game than any other player. First with the dumb penalty, and then just turning and looking at Slavin pinching down right before the second goal.

So if we’re going to do it, lets do it. You’re sick of soft play, where you trading pastrnak to?

Not really the point here, but why do you think calgary would be looking to restructure their blue line?</div></div>

pastrnak and grzelcyk aren't even close skilled wise. grzelcyk is a -14 in his last 26 games he isnt helping worth ****.

as for calgary maybe boston could send them an offer they can't refuse i doubt he is an untradeable player for them just needs to be a strong offer.
cap problems could also lead them to a slight team restructure
Forum: Armchair-GM4 mai à 17 h 43
Sujet: Heres an Idea
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bagelbob</b></div><div>imo that's not good enough. the isles would want reilly but you can't trade your 2C for like two third round assets and debrusk. add a first instead of the 3rd or replace both the pick and reilly with gryz and that's closer</div></div>

i think the B's would give like
debrusk+reilly+2nd or a 3rd+studnicka but i don't think they will move another 1st unless it's for like chychrun/scheifele/ Miller or Horvat it would have to be a bonafide first pair dman or 1C, No doubt i think nelson is good but he isn't a 1C and especially since debrusk has been very good lately his value is no longer low anymore.
even though half the season he played bad he still had more 5v5 goals then Laine/ Svechnikov/ rantanen/ Wilson and many more guys who are considered "elite snipers" and i think his production would continue at that pace if he was given the chance to player with barzal and lee or barzal and beauvillier
Forum: Armchair-GM4 mai à 17 h 26
Sujet: Heres an Idea
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ON3M4N</b></div><div>Meh, this guts the RW group and you'd be buying high on Nelson. No way he's shooting 20%+ again</div></div>

true that's why i say replace smith for reilly.
nelson has been a pretty consistent 20-25 goal guy and 50 points playing in a defensive system. like look at barzal's numbers he's been averaging 60-70 points anywhere with more offensive star power and he is probably a consistent high 80's to low 90's guy.

nelson also brings that higher tier net front presence B's have been looking for since we lost lucic he'd be good on the PP1 to get pasta's deflections and rebounds, nelson is built for playoffs.

Im sure hall would put up high 50's to low 60's assist numbers having pasta and nelson as his linemates both are great shooters
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