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Créé par: habsrthebest
Équipe: 2023-24 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 26 août 2023
Publié: 27 août 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
tyler boucher is a reallly good prospect. wa drfated in the 1st round in 2021. so 1st rounders value a 2nd rounder and brannstrom for nylander should be fair.

hell of overpayment for nylander. if someone says leafs pass. 3 first round picks value and brannstrom. all picks top 10 protected.
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ARI
  1. Joseph, Mathieu
  2. Thomson, Lassi
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (OTT)
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TOR
  1. Boucher, Tyler
  2. Brännström, Erik
  3. Sokolov, Egor
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (OTT)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (OTT)
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    1. Formenton, Alex [Liste de réserve]
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    27 août 2023 à 12 h 55
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    Explain why a win now team ahead of the Sens in the same division would trade an elite offensive player who is in the middle of his prime, for a bubble defenceman, and two prospects that never will be as good as Nylander? Then you can understand why TO passes.
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    27 août 2023 à 12 h 56
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    Boucher is a bust, Sokolovs ceiling is middle 6 forward, brannstrom is a 3rd pairing d man that shoots left. The only thing of value is the first round pick, the leafs pass
    27 août 2023 à 13 h 2
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    Yeah I’d probably do it
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    27 août 2023 à 13 h 5
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    Quoting: Levig01
    Boucher is a bust, Sokolovs ceiling is middle 6 forward, brannstrom is a 3rd pairing d man that shoots left. The only thing of value is the first round pick, the leafs pass


    damn calm down. he's 21. he didn't even play 10 games in the ahl. 0 knowledge.
    27 août 2023 à 13 h 7
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    Yeah I’d probably do it


    Why? What does this do for TO?
    27 août 2023 à 13 h 7
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    The Sens don't have anything to entice the Leafs to trade Nylander to a far weaker opponent in the same division
    27 août 2023 à 13 h 7
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    damn calm down. he's 21. he didn't even play 10 games in the ahl. 0 knowledge.


    He didn't even perform all that well in the OHL.
    27 août 2023 à 13 h 7
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    The Sens don't have anything to entice the Leafs to trade Nylander to a far weaker opponent in the same division


    Well they do, but they wouldn't make that trade.
    27 août 2023 à 13 h 7
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    Well they do, but they wouldn't make that trade.


    Who?
    27 août 2023 à 13 h 8
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    Arizona and Toronto accept.

    Vegas does not.
    27 août 2023 à 13 h 8
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    Quoting: RipNasty
    Explain why a win now team ahead of the Sens in the same division would trade an elite offensive player who is in the middle of his prime, for a bubble defenceman, and two prospects that never will be as good as Nylander? Then you can understand why TO passes.


    oh nah ripnasty is mad. basic leafs fan getting mad at the nylander trade proposition that is not heavily loopsided to the leafs side. probably thinks the isles will need to give barzal for him
    27 août 2023 à 13 h 11
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    Quoting: Leafsfan98
    Who?


    Stutzle, Norris, Tkachuk, Chabot, Chychrun, Sanderson. The only realistic target in a Nylander trade would be Greig and Pinto
    27 août 2023 à 13 h 12
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    Boucher is a bust, Sokolov is ok, Brannstrom is a bottom pairing d. It isn’t close to Nylander. You would have to add Pinto or Greig
    27 août 2023 à 13 h 14
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    Quoting: GuyGuyGuy
    Stutzle, Norris, Tkachuk, Chabot, Chychrun, Sanderson. The only realistic target in a Nylander trade would be Greig and Pinto


    Leafs wouldn't do Chychrun for Nylander... Same with Norris and the other 4 would be part of the Sens core
    27 août 2023 à 13 h 17
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    Leafs wouldn't do Chychrun for Nylander... Same with Norris and the other 4 would be part of the Sens core

    That’s insanity!!! Norris is way cheaper and he isn’t that much worse. You arr never going to get back a player as good as Nylander in a Nylander trade.
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    27 août 2023 à 13 h 23
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    tyler boucher is as middle of the road a prospect as you can get, every team has a dozen of them that they drafted in the 3rd or later round. He was a terrible pick and has incredibly minimal value and Branstrom is looking like a bottom pairing guy right now unless he makes massive strides.
    Saying this is "Nylander for 3 firsts" is hilariously disingenuous.
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    27 août 2023 à 13 h 23
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    Quoting: GuyGuyGuy
    That’s insanity!!! Norris is way cheaper and he isn’t that much worse. You arr never going to get back a player as good as Nylander in a Nylander trade.


    Way cheaper? Norris is making 8 mill... Nylander will get about 9.5... And Norris hasn't played 70 games in a season yet either and hasn't score 40 and hasn't been near a PPG yet! Why would the Leafs trade Nylander for someone like that who will sewer their cap just like the cap trouble the Sens are in right now?
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    27 août 2023 à 13 h 25
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    Quoting: RipNasty
    Why? What does this do for TO?


    3 decent prospects and a first and a second
    27 août 2023 à 13 h 27
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    Modifié 27 août 2023 à 13 h 55
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    oh nah ripnasty is mad. basic leafs fan getting mad at the nylander trade proposition that is not heavily loopsided to the leafs side. probably thinks the isles will need to give barzal for him


    Except he's right this time. Total quantity over quality, this offer gets beaten by several teams.

    BTW are we to take it that you assume Batherson is guilty and headed for a suspension? Are we sure they get full cap relief on that?
    27 août 2023 à 13 h 30
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    3 decent prospects and a first and a second


    Branstrom is 24 in less than a week, he's not a prospect any more and and he's basically a bottom roster player and Boucher wouldnt even be top 15 in Leafs prospects, and that's not because the leafs have good prospects
    27 août 2023 à 13 h 42
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    So let me get this straight: Sens fans and Leafs fans are arguing over a trade made by…HabsRTheBest.

    This is a false-flag operation if I’ve ever seen one.
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    27 août 2023 à 13 h 43
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    Value aside I just think they can get a package better suited to their needs for Nylander than this.
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    27 août 2023 à 13 h 44
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    Quoting: habsrthebest
    damn calm down. he's 21. he didn't even play 10 games in the ahl. 0 knowledge.


    Exept Boucher is not good and was he biggest reach ever. Draft pedigree does not mean ****. 0 knowledge
    27 août 2023 à 14 h 36
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    Quoting: Leafsfan98
    Way cheaper? Norris is making 8 mill... Nylander will get about 9.5... And Norris hasn't played 70 games in a season yet either and hasn't score 40 and hasn't been near a PPG yet! Why would the Leafs trade Nylander for someone like that who will sewer their cap just like the cap trouble the Sens are in right now?

    Again, you will never get someone as good as Nylander in a 1 for 1. There is no way you have the money to afford him. Ottawa won’t trade their elite C for a 85 pts winger who wants 10m.
    27 août 2023 à 14 h 42
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    Again, you will never get someone as good as Nylander in a 1 for 1. There is no way you have the money to afford him. Ottawa won’t trade their elite C for a 85 pts winger who wants 10m.


    Yeah, and the Leafs won't trade for an injury prone guy making 8 mill... It doesn't have to be someone as good as Nylander, but it won't be someone who will sewer the Leafs' cap space either
     
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