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TDL Blockbuster

Créé par: TheRealisticGuy
Équipe: 2023-24 Blue Jackets de Columbus
Date de création initiale: 22 juill. 2023
Publié: 22 juill. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
WPG
  1. Boqvist, Adam
  2. Merzlikins, Elvis
  3. Sillinger, Cole
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (CBJ)
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (CBJ)
Détails additionnels:
2024 1st round pick : Top 10 protected
2025 1st round pick : Top 10 protected
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
Logo de CBJ
Logo de LAK
Logo de CBJ
Logo de CBJ
Logo de CBJ
2025
Logo de CBJ
Logo de CBJ
Logo de CBJ
Logo de CBJ
Logo de CBJ
Logo de CBJ
Logo de VGK
2026
Logo de CBJ
Logo de CBJ
Logo de CBJ
Logo de CBJ
Logo de CBJ
Logo de CBJ
Logo de CBJ
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $80 300 000 $0 $5 900 000 $3 200 000 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 850 000 $$2M)
AG, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
6 125 000 $6 125 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C, AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
9 750 000 $9 750 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 200 000 $$3M)
C
RFA - 3
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
1 525 000 $1 525 000 $
AG, C, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
1 600 000 $1 600 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
9 583 333 $9 583 333 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 8
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
6 166 667 $6 166 667 $
G
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
4 725 000 $4 725 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
G
RFA - 2
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
2 333 333 $2 333 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
975 000 $975 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
900 000 $900 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
825 000 $825 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1

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22 juill. 2023 à 16 h 58
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Nah.
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Meh, I’d rather have Sillinger than Scheifele at the moment. Also don’t think I’d want to spend whatever it is going to cost to keep Helleybuck until his age 38 season.

It screams Bobrovsky 2.0.
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22 juill. 2023 à 16 h 58
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Not taking that with both 1sts being protected
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22 juill. 2023 à 16 h 59
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Not taking that with both 1sts being protected


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22 juill. 2023 à 17 h 0
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Meh, I’d rather have Sillinger than Scheifele at the moment. Also don’t think I’d want to spend whatever it is going to cost to keep Helleybuck until his age 38 season.

It screams Bobrovsky 2.0.


I think it’s disrespectful for Hellebuyck
He is a way better goaltender than Bob IMO
22 juill. 2023 à 17 h 3
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lol, I don't think Patty Laine would like this very much...
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22 juill. 2023 à 17 h 10
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Quoting: TheRealisticGuy
I think it’s disrespectful for Hellebuyck
He is a way better goaltender than Bob IMO


I mean, peak Bob was worth two Vezina’s; but, the point isn’t whether Helleybuck is better than Bob *right now*, because he is, even if Bob had a nice run in the playoffs (there is a reason why “goalie” has become a verb). The point is whether Helleybuck is going to be worth the $8M-$9M someone is going to pay him until he’s in his late thirties.

Goalies in the NHL are the new RB’s in the NFL. There are going to be a few diamonds, sure, but you’re better off building around a 1a/1b on mid-level contracts than you are investing big money into one guy to carry your team for 65+ games.

Even then, goalies are voodoo. Absolute nobodies show up and tear the league apart, then turn to pumpkins. Proven stars go from savior to buy-out speculation. Goalie just isn’t a position I’d want to invest high-end money into; I.e. the money Helleybuck is going to demand, and that someone is likely going to pay him.
22 juill. 2023 à 17 h 23
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Quoting: dopplsan
I mean, peak Bob was worth two Vezina’s; but, the point isn’t whether Helleybuck is better than Bob *right now*, because he is, even if Bob had a nice run in the playoffs (there is a reason why “goalie” has become a verb). The point is whether Helleybuck is going to be worth the $8M-$9M someone is going to pay him until he’s in his late thirties.

Goalies in the NHL are the new RB’s in the NFL. There are going to be a few diamonds, sure, but you’re better off building around a 1a/1b on mid-level contracts than you are investing big money into one guy to carry your team for 65+ games.

Even then, goalies are voodoo. Absolute nobodies show up and tear the league apart, then turn to pumpkins. Proven stars go from savior to buy-out speculation. Goalie just isn’t a position I’d want to invest high-end money into; I.e. the money Helleybuck is going to demand, and that someone is likely going to pay him.


Let’s say he signs 6X9M
You were already paying Elvis 5.4M
So for 3.6M, you get an Elite goaltender
Hellebuyck is still in his good years, Gaudreau & Hellebuyck both wants a cup. I don’t think it would be a bad move, IMO
It puts them into contender
22 juill. 2023 à 18 h 34
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This is a lot to spend on two rentals and their next contracts would be a tough pill to swallow.

As far as pick protection goes, no pick protection on the 24 first and top 10 on the 25 pick. Not both.
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22 juill. 2023 à 18 h 59
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I think you need to change your user name.
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22 juill. 2023 à 19 h 30
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Quoting: dopplsan
I mean, peak Bob was worth two Vezina’s; but, the point isn’t whether Helleybuck is better than Bob *right now*, because he is, even if Bob had a nice run in the playoffs (there is a reason why “goalie” has become a verb). The point is whether Helleybuck is going to be worth the $8M-$9M someone is going to pay him until he’s in his late thirties.

Goalies in the NHL are the new RB’s in the NFL. There are going to be a few diamonds, sure, but you’re better off building around a 1a/1b on mid-level contracts than you are investing big money into one guy to carry your team for 65+ games.

Even then, goalies are voodoo. Absolute nobodies show up and tear the league apart, then turn to pumpkins. Proven stars go from savior to buy-out speculation. Goalie just isn’t a position I’d want to invest high-end money into; I.e. the money Helleybuck is going to demand, and that someone is likely going to pay him.


That isn't a great comparison RBs fall off towards the mid-end of their careers where goalies can remain elite longer than any position
22 juill. 2023 à 19 h 42
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Quoting: GreatWhiteNorth
I think you need to change your user name.


I think I am allowed to make blockbuster proposal sometimes
22 juill. 2023 à 20 h 30
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Quoting: TheRealisticGuy
I think I am allowed to make blockbuster proposal sometimes


Never said you weren’t.

But your user name doesn’t describe your trade proposal.
22 juill. 2023 à 21 h 47
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laugh Dude Scheifele and Hellebuyck aren't going to the worst team in hockey, Both grew up Red Wing fans. And both would head to Detroit long before Columbus.
24 juill. 2023 à 11 h 36
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Modifié 24 juill. 2023 à 11 h 44
Quoting: Jets12Kozy
That isn't a great comparison RBs fall off towards the mid-end of their careers where goalies can remain elite longer than any position


Not the point. Issue isn't necessarily length of their career, it is volatility of the position and how high of a percentage of the cap should be allocated to that risk level. There is a reason there is never going to be another Adrian Peterson contract.

You are better off with two $4M goalies than one $8M goalie.

Quoting: TheRealisticGuy
Let’s say he signs 6X9M
You were already paying Elvis 5.4M
So for 3.6M, you get an Elite goaltender
Hellebuyck is still in his good years, Gaudreau & Hellebuyck both wants a cup. I don’t think it would be a bad move, IMO
It puts them into contender


I mean, yes, CBJ would be better with Helleybuck in net; but, my issue is goalie volatility and the aging curve. For that, I'm not giving up Sillinger, two firsts, and Boqvist - who is probably worth a 2nd himself.
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24 juill. 2023 à 11 h 44
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25 juill. 2023 à 4 h 33
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18 lotteries, 0 wins
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no scheif. never
 
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