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Créé par: mvp13

Équipe: 2023-24 Sharks de San Jose

Date de création initiale: 18 juill. 2023

Publié: 18 juill. 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Unhappy with the EK69 offers, Grier decides to go the other way.

If they lose Karlsson, I don't see how they compete for the next 4 years under Couture's contract. Instead, they make some moves to try to compete sooner.

Vlasic may be the most over-hated d-man in the League. Overpaid, sure, but not completely useless. He gets a fresh start on a team that barely has any relevant NHL LD and the cap to take him full on. If he still doesn't work out, his buyout price is not that bad in June 2024 (3.8, 4.8, 1.3, 1.3).

In return for this little risk, they get Eklund and a 1st round pick. That's a lot for SJS to give up, but I think it's worth it to shed Vlasic with no retention. They also get a bottom 6 center to help fill that hole.

In free agency, they overpay for a top 6 winger and top 4 d-man. I might've went a little heavy on the terms; adjust accordingly. They overpay to convince them to play on a rebuilder. With the cap spiking up, this should even out nicely in two years.

I don't think this team is an immediate contender, but they are closer to their goal rather than being further away.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Tarasenko, Vladimir		5	6 000 000 $
Dumba, Matt		8	6 000 000 $

Transactions

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Brent Burns: 2 720 000 $ (34%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	83 500 000 $	80 370 001 $	25 000 $	0 $	3 129 999 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Barabanov, Alexander 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 1	Couture, Logan 8 000 000 $8 000 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 4	Tarasenko, Vladimir 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AD UFA - 1
Duclair, Anthony 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Hertl, Tomas 6 750 000 $6 750 000 $ C NMC UFA - 7	Labanc, Kevin 4 725 000 $4 725 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
Zadina, Filip 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ AD, AG RFA - 1	Dickinson, Jason 2 650 000 $2 650 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Zetterlund, Fabian 1 450 000 $1 450 000 $ AD RFA - 2
Lindblom, Oskar 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Sturm, Nico 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ C UFA - 2	Kunin, Luke 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ AD, C RFA - 1
Peterson, Jacob 775 000 $775 000 $ AG, C RFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Ferraro, Mario 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ DG UFA - 3	Karlsson, Erik 10 000 000 $10 000 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 4	Kähkönen, Kaapo 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ G UFA - 1
Simek, Radim 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Dumba, Matt 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Blackwood, Mackenzie 2 350 000 $2 350 000 $ G UFA - 2
Burroughs, Kyle 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 3	Benning, Matthew 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ DD UFA - 3
Knyzhov, Nikolai 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 2

18 juill. 2023 à 13 h 8

Logicalicesports

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You are crazy to get rid of Eklund

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18 juill. 2023 à 13 h 10

brady_t12

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A top 10 pick in this coming draft and a recent top 10 pick who is now NHL ready to get rid of Vlasic? Chicago takes that and runs.

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18 juill. 2023 à 13 h 14

matthias893

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That trade is horrible for San Jose.

Getting rid of Vlasic's contract is not even kind of a priority and Eklund and that (probably top 5) 1st round pick are a MAJOR part of our future. Our goal is to get back to being a perennial contender. This deal absolutely moves us much farther away from it.

18 juill. 2023 à 13 h 14

NHLfan10506

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San Jose could just buy out Vlasic and keep Eklund and the 1st.

Also Dumba cannot sign 8-years (would anyone want to sign him for 8 years?).

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18 juill. 2023 à 13 h 15

mvp13

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Quoting: Logicalicesports

You are crazy to get rid of Eklund

I know. But that's what it would take.

Quoting: brady_t12

A top 10 pick in this coming draft and a recent top 10 pick who is now NHL ready to get rid of Vlasic? Chicago takes that and runs.

It could be top 10 protected, but I hear this draft is kind of light. Maybe next year would be better and not worth losing it instead?

18 juill. 2023 à 13 h 17

mvp13

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

San Jose could just buy out Vlasic and keep Eklund and the 1st.

Also Dumba cannot sign 8-years (would anyone want to sign him for 8 years?).

SJS doesn't have a 2nd buyout window, so they can't. Even if they did, they couldn't sign the UFAs.

... which Dumba is, so why couldn't he sign 8 years? Either way that could be shaved down, minor details

18 juill. 2023 à 13 h 18

mvp13

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Quoting: matthias893

How else do you improve this year with keeping Vlasic haha...

It would be a priority if they wanted to keep EK69 and get better, which is the point of this...

18 juill. 2023 à 13 h 31

jfkst1

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San Jose needs a good 5 years of rebuilding before they ever contend. Rushing that will just perpetuate issues.

18 juill. 2023 à 13 h 31

NHLfan10506

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Quoting: mvp13

They aren’t competing next year, so won’t need the cap space until 2024 or 2025 and can buy out Vlasic then.

Max term is…8 years if a player is resigning with the same club he was on at previous deadline. 7 years for everyone else.

18 juill. 2023 à 13 h 33

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goodfella

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What a troll post.

Sharks don't need to move Vlasic or EK.

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18 juill. 2023 à 13 h 36

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sharcuda22

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Quoting: mvp13

How else do you improve this year with keeping Vlasic haha...

It would be a priority if they wanted to keep EK69 and get better, which is the point of this...

Vlassics contract is bad yah... but he was our second best d man for most of last season. If you really want to improve this team, instead of getting rid of our 2nd best prospect, maybe just trade for a real goalie and we will finish outside the top ten

18 juill. 2023 à 13 h 36

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matthias893

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Quoting: mvp13

How else do you improve this year with keeping Vlasic haha...

It would be a priority if they wanted to keep EK69 and get better, which is the point of this...

We were pretty bad last year with Karlsson and Timo for a majority of the year. Then Timo got traded and we fell straight off a cliff. The team you have here might be good enough to climb a slot or two higher in the standings. Just enough to still not make the playoffs and give us a worse draft pick ( that we stupidly traded away), all the while trading away our future and handicapping ourselves with two more terrible way too long contracts.

This whole concept just delays us getting back to contention and ensures we'll be supremely mediocre for a long long time. We're going to suck next year no matter what. We might as well wait it out and buyout Vlasic next year or the year after if we need to.

18 juill. 2023 à 13 h 37

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mvp13

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Quoting: jfkst1

San Jose needs a good 5 years of rebuilding before they ever contend. Rushing that will just perpetuate issues.

You are probably right, this team is simply an attempt at trying to be "better" this year while shedding one of their albatross contracts.

18 juill. 2023 à 14 h 7

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wojohawk

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Hawks would say yes. 2 premium assets for 3 years of Vlassic where the Hawks have no realistic financial concerns until those 3 years are up and Bedard gets paid would be an immediate yes. Problem is San Jose would never say yes. Sharks have no pressing need for the cap as they are in about the same spot as the Hawks in rebuilding with no one to spend the money on anyways until some of the prospects start arriving.

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18 juill. 2023 à 14 h 22

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poeticentropy

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Vlasic retires a Shark. They have no reason to move him as they are going to suck for the years remaining anyway

18 juill. 2023 à 15 h 16

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mvp13

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Quoting: poeticentropy

Vlasic retires a Shark. They have no reason to move him as they are going to suck for the years remaining anyway

I don't think the team above sucks. It's a step in the right direction. More cap clears next year, cap goes up, more UFA signings and get closer, rather than stagnating for 3 years.

Their current plan is to sell EK69 which will take a long time, and not really make sense with their long term Hertl signing, Couture, etc. This is trying to carve a new path while you have those two franchise centers under contract, rather than waiting til after.

Hey, it's better than all the TOR ACGM teams with Karlsson at 50% retention for Robertson and cap dumps, right? : P

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18 juill. 2023 à 15 h 46

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poeticentropy

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Quoting: mvp13

I would say just get UFAs that you can without trading your 1st or best prospect away, which they really need for the future. This team you have here still misses the playoffs IMO, so there's no point. Selling the farm makes sense for teams that are actually close to competing. For example most believe Pit being out of the playoffs was a fluke and they can bounce back in next season with the right moves.

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