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2023 NHL Offseason Discussion Thread #3 - Free Agent Frenzy

One of the more popular debates online recently has been Malkin vs Kane. Who do you guys think had the better career? I'm going with Geno
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29 juin 2023 à 17 h 21
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Canucks got Aiden McCarthy. Spent a 6th round pick for a year for his brother to convince Macklin to demand going to the Canucks


Celebrini, not McCarthy. Also, maybe you could trade Pettersson to 2024 1st overall after VAN misses the playoffs again lol
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29 juin 2023 à 17 h 21
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Goalies are very hard to compare in drafts, however Hrabal, Gajan, Augestine seem to be clear cut better


There was no true good goalie in this draft, you had guys like Gajan, Hrabal, Augustine, Bjarnasson, Fowler, etc who we're all decent but this class of goalies was meh, all shots in the dark imo
29 juin 2023 à 17 h 23
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Celebrini, not McCarthy. Also, maybe you could trade Pettersson to 2024 1st overall after VAN misses the playoffs again lol


I don't even know how I mixed that up but yeah, we got the bro
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29 juin 2023 à 17 h 24
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There was no true good goalie in this draft, you had guys like Gajan, Hrabal, Augustine, Bjarnasson, Fowler, etc who we're all decent but this class of goalies was meh, all shots in the dark imo


3 shots in the dark gives them a better chance of hitting at least. Still very interesting
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29 juin 2023 à 17 h 28
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3 shots in the dark gives them a better chance of hitting at least. Still very interesting


2 of them aren’t getting NHL contracts soon too, Fowler (NCAA) and KHL system goalies will probably be left to develop and we’ll see how it goes, Miller ( Juniors) though, will enter our system soon if he does at all
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29 juin 2023 à 17 h 28
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Made a list of no QO candidates. Any obvious, notable names I am missing?

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Puljujarvi
Gurianov
Jenik
Brown
Merkley
Addison
Bjornfot
Etc….
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29 juin 2023 à 17 h 29
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Made a list of no QO candidates. Any obvious, notable names I am missing?

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Puljujarvi
Gurianov
Jenik
Brown
Merkley
Addison
Bjornfot
Etc….


Addison, Merkley and Bjornfot all should be qualified, Jenik too I think, the rest are too expensive/meh
29 juin 2023 à 17 h 31
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Made a list of no QO candidates. Any obvious, notable names I am missing?

Comtois
Puljujarvi
Gurianov
Jenik
Brown
Merkley
Addison
Bjornfot
Etc….


Where did you see Addison isnt getting a QO?
29 juin 2023 à 17 h 33
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Addison, Merkley and Bjornfot all should be qualified, Jenik too I think, the rest are too expensive/meh


Merkley was confirmed not getting qualified....i don't know about the others though
29 juin 2023 à 17 h 33
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Made a list of no QO candidates. Any obvious, notable names I am missing?

Comtois
Puljujarvi
Gurianov
Jenik
Brown
Merkley
Addison
Bjornfot
Etc….


I believe Jones brother wasnt qualified
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29 juin 2023 à 17 h 43
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Quoting: Juiceman
3 shots in the dark gives them a better chance of hitting at least. Still very interesting


Who cares? Everyone knows Goalies are the last piece to the puzzle, not the first. We should never focus on drafting an elite level goalie.
29 juin 2023 à 17 h 44
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Addison, Merkley and Bjornfot all should be qualified, Jenik too I think, the rest are too expensive/meh


Really looking for who I am missing….there is no running list anywhere.
29 juin 2023 à 18 h 14
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Really looking for who I am missing….there is no running list anywhere.


List will probs be available tomorrow
29 juin 2023 à 18 h 54
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Made a list of no QO candidates. Any obvious, notable names I am missing?

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Puljujarvi
Gurianov
Jenik
Brown
Merkley
Addison
Bjornfot
Etc….


Malgin wasn't qualified
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29 juin 2023 à 19 h 33
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Malgin wasn't qualified


Kind of surprised would have expected like 800k for him or something
29 juin 2023 à 20 h 13
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Goalies are very hard to compare in drafts, however Hrabal, Gajan, Augestine seem to be clear cut better


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Agree to disagree. He was the 6th goalie to be picked in this draft...and it's the most voodoo position of them all.


Sure.....


29 juin 2023 à 20 h 16
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Kind of surprised would have expected like 800k for him or something


He has arb rights and they didn't want to risk a higher AAV
29 juin 2023 à 20 h 28
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Don’t understand why oiler gave them Klim.

He was solid


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he wanted too much. EDM couldn't afford him.

IT was better than giving up a draft pick to dump Yams salary


Klim wanted 2 mil and the Oilers couldn't offer more then 1.5 mil and Klim was already talking with KHL teams, sucks to see him go he was a fan fav and was hilarious, its been know all off season that Yamo was going which also sucks and it will be so weird to see him in another jersey
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29 juin 2023 à 20 h 43
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Beau Akey seems like a actually good pick at 56, is a RD which is by far the Oilers biggest need and he seems to have decent potential and unlike Schaefer last year I have actually heard of Akey before he was on a lot of lists of players that the Oilers should draft.
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29 juin 2023 à 21 h 1
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Beau Akey seems like a actually good pick at 56, is a RD which is by far the Oilers biggest need and he seems to have decent potential and unlike Schaefer last year I have actually heard of Akey before he was on a lot of lists of players that the Oilers should draft.


Akey is so good defensively. That was an incredible pickup
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29 juin 2023 à 21 h 3
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I’m so happy that we got Cristall. I’m very impressed with bmacs patience with trading up and stuff. We almost got michkov without have to spend a haul and we got what can potentially be major part of a forward core in the second round. Amazing stuff
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29 juin 2023 à 21 h 9
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I see 3 pretty attractive benefits to following the Habs 3 goalie strat:

1. Diversity is Strength. 3 same skill and aged dudes in different leagues, different coaches sharing what works and what doesn’t for multiple years.

2. If you want to target having a goaltender of a specific age in the future, this is likely the most reliable path. Anything else is more of a crapshoot.

3. By leaving a traditional pick distribution, this years draft can be sandwiched by drafts complimentary for other positions without worrying about goalies at all, unlocking opportunities for forward or defensive pairs to be drafted together.

I like it.

I’d try it.

I bet other teams will.

You’re gonna either crapshoot or crapshoot but weird.

Edit: glaring downside -

Fans won’t like it I guarantee it.
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29 juin 2023 à 21 h 40
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I see 3 pretty attractive benefits to following the Habs 3 goalie strat:

1. Diversity is Strength. 3 same skill and aged dudes in different leagues, different coaches sharing what works and what doesn’t for multiple years.

2. If you want to target having a goaltender of a specific age in the future, this is likely the most reliable path. Anything else is more of a crapshoot.

3. By leaving a traditional pick distribution, this years draft can be sandwiched by drafts complimentary for other positions without worrying about goalies at all, unlocking opportunities for forward or defensive pairs to be drafted together.

I like it.

I’d try it.

I bet other teams will.

You’re gonna either crapshoot or crapshoot but weird.

Edit: glaring downside -

Fans won’t like it I guarantee it.


We have an abundance of promising LHD.
We just picked up another promising younger center before the draft and have a few looking to push for a spot soon.
We have several promising wingers in addition to any of those centers who may end up converting to wing.
We took the best RHD option available. Could use some more in the organization in general, but it's acquiring high end guys that is problematic.

There was simply no need to go after anything but RHD or G. Outside the first few rounds you're mostly looking at depth guys and role players, and those spots can be filled fairly easy when necessary.
Goaltending is the one area where we don't currently have a high end option. Our current tandem is a stop gap, Primeau hasn't inspired confidence, Dobes is promising but far from certain.
With the lack of certainty in net in the future, it doesn't hurt to have a few options to work with and see who can make it. We're used to having an "heir apparent" in the system, but have failed several times to turn the next "chosen one" into an NHL starter.
Perhaps this is the different approach we need.
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29 juin 2023 à 21 h 51
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crazy to think that guys that won the Oilers their series this year versus LA in game 6 got traded for nothing (Kostin had 2 goals and yamo and the series winner in that game)
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29 juin 2023 à 22 h 55
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crazy to think that guys that won the Oilers their series this year versus LA in game 6 got traded for nothing (Kostin had 2 goals and yamo and the series winner in that game)


Yamamoto had to go, not much of a choice there.
I would have liked to see Kostin stay for a year for under $1M and perhaps stick around longer if the cap went up and a better contract could be worked out. Seems to be looking for too much with the state of the cap right now.

The years of cap restrictions seems to have reached the tipping point this season. Players who would normally be able to return at least some value in the past, are simply unmovable now unless you pay a premium. Oilers were kind of lucky to find a taker for Yamamoto and not have to give up anything extra (they weren't able to sign Kostin anyway, so no loss there).
 
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