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Créé par: vinny82
Équipe: 2023-24 Flyers de Philadelphie
Date de création initiale: 6 juin 2023
Publié: 6 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
PHI
  1. Durzi, Sean
  2. Turcotte, Alex
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (LAK)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (LAK)
2.
PHI
  1. Mesar, Filip
  2. Primeau, Cayden
  3. Xhekaj, Arber
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
MTL
    Hart
    3.
    PHI
    1. Gibson, John
    2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (ANA)
    ANA
    1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (PHI)
    2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (LAK)
    Détails additionnels:
    Hart+ 7th and 22nd, for Gibson and 2nd.
    4.
    PHI
    1. Bourgault, Xavier
    2. Brind'Amour, Skyler [Liste de réserve]
    3. Broberg, Philip
    4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
    5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (EDM)
    EDM
      Hart
      5.
      PHI
      1. Abruzzese, Nick [Droits de RFA]
      2. Knies, Matthew
      3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
      TOR
        HART
        Rachats de contrats
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        TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
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        5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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        UFA - 5
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        3 571 429 $3 571 429 $
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        3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
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        UFA - 3
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        894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance1 550 000 $$2M)
        C
        RFA - 1
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        1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
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        1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
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        UFA - 3
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        785 000 $785 000 $
        AD
        RFA - 1
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        925 000 $925 000 $
        AG, AD
        RFA - 2
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        762 500 $762 500 $
        AD, C
        UFA - 1
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        918 333 $918 333 $
        AD, C
        RFA - 3
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        925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance250 000 $$250K)
        AD
        RFA - 2
        Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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        6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
        DG/DD
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        UFA - 8
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        UFA - 4
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        5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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        UFA - 2
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        2 650 000 $2 650 000 $
        DG/DD
        UFA - 1
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        1 675 000 $1 675 000 $
        DD
        UFA - 1
        Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
        1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
        DG/DD
        RFA - 1
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        775 000 $775 000 $
        G
        UFA - 1
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        828 333 $828 333 $
        DG/DD
        RFA - 1
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        890 000 $890 000 $
        G
        RFA - 2
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        775 000 $775 000 $
        DG/DD
        UFA - 1
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        6 400 000 $6 400 000 $
        G
        M-NTC
        UFA - 4
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        863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
        DG
        RFA - 1
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        7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
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        UFA - 7
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        6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
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        UFA - 4
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        5 875 000 $5 875 000 $
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        6 juin 2023 à 17 h 51
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        Bar up
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        Knies ain’t moving
        6 juin 2023 à 17 h 51
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        Hahahahaha wow what a joke no way in hell do you get that from any of these teams
        6 juin 2023 à 17 h 52
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        Yeah Anaheim isn’t trading Adamo Fantilli but nice try
        6 juin 2023 à 17 h 55
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        Leafs pass
        6 juin 2023 à 17 h 55
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        Would do all of these but I think EDM and TOR are too much for Hart and same for Anaheim
        6 juin 2023 à 17 h 59
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        Hart has some pretty good value but he doesn’t carry this value. He still plays the most volatile position.

        A 1st, 2nd and 3rd seems about right maybe even a little high.
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        6 juin 2023 à 17 h 59
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        Didnt know Hart was the greatest goalie of all time.
        6 juin 2023 à 17 h 59
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        Goalies are never worth 1st round picks, in the draft or via trade. No exceptions.
        6 juin 2023 à 18 h 0
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        This is a joke right?
        6 juin 2023 à 18 h 3
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        Quoting: GeneralLandro
        Yeah Anaheim isn’t trading Adamo Fantilli but nice try


        I think you might , just not for that
        You got high end Center's arent you in need LD?

        Guhle(16th OA i think 2020) , 5th OA and 37th OA for Fantilli even move the needle ?
        6 juin 2023 à 18 h 8
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        Quoting: Jah1722
        Hart has some pretty good value but he doesn’t carry this value. He still plays the most volatile position.

        A 1st, 2nd and 3rd seems about right maybe even a little high.


        It would make him one of the higher paid Goalie Trades in history for sure.
        He might get a 1st a good prospect a late pick and a NHL Warm Body for Contract Purposes
        Thats the most i really see and even thats high but Justifiable if they're taking on bad deals like they did in the Provorov trade as CBJ wasnt moving on the 1st and 2nd round pick with RS.
        LAK had to dump some players PHI could actually use and LAK RS of 2m to dump 7m in contracts paying Grans and a 2nd to give PHI what they felt Provorov was worth.

        They'll need another deal like that to get what he's asking on any of these deals.
        In a 3 way trade the odds are let call it 75/100 but just two teams , that return ? i'd say 15/100 so 15% odds
        With 100% odds MTL doesnt have interest at that cost
        6 juin 2023 à 18 h 13
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        All of these are overpays in favour of the flyers.
        6 juin 2023 à 18 h 17
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        You can have Primeau, Xhekaj and 37th pick
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        6 juin 2023 à 18 h 21
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        Quoting: Billy739
        It would make him one of the higher paid Goalie Trades in history for sure.
        He might get a 1st a good prospect a late pick and a NHL Warm Body for Contract Purposes
        Thats the most i really see and even thats high but Justifiable if they're taking on bad deals like they did in the Provorov trade as CBJ wasnt moving on the 1st and 2nd round pick with RS.
        LAK had to dump some players PHI could actually use and LAK RS of 2m to dump 7m in contracts paying Grans and a 2nd to give PHI what they felt Provorov was worth.

        They'll need another deal like that to get what he's asking on any of these deals.
        In a 3 way trade the odds are let call it 75/100 but just two teams , that return ? i'd say 15/100 so 15% odds
        With 100% odds MTL doesnt have interest at that cost


        He’s asking for Elite young skater returns in these trades. They’d have to take back a ton of cap to get close to this return for Hart. Now if he packaged Hart and Konecny there might be something close to these from a contender.
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        6 juin 2023 à 18 h 41
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        Quoting: Billy739
        I think you might , just not for that
        You got high end Center's arent you in need LD?

        Guhle(16th OA i think 2020) , 5th OA and 37th OA for Fantilli even move the needle ?


        LD is the absolute last thing we need
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        6 juin 2023 à 18 h 46
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        Habs ain't doing that bud, way too much of a ask
        6 juin 2023 à 18 h 47
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        Quoting: GeneralLandro
        LD is the absolute last thing we need


        RD , Goaltending,Wingers?
        Cause i was told a top paid LD by ANA fans so im confused here.
        6 juin 2023 à 18 h 49
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        Quoting: Jah1722
        He’s asking for Elite young skater returns in these trades. They’d have to take back a ton of cap to get close to this return for Hart. Now if he packaged Hart and Konecny there might be something close to these from a contender.


        To Be Fair though we were all saying that about Provorov for over a year now.
        That said i dont agree that Hart should get a top 10 pick in any trade ever
        I was just Generalizing using Provorov trade as an example of the hoops they'd need to go through to get even close to that.
        6 juin 2023 à 18 h 55
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        Hart is massively overvalued in all of these deals. He's an average goalie, and most teams won't mortgage their future to acquire a player like him.
        6 juin 2023 à 18 h 59
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        Philly fans be tripping on the Hart return
        6 juin 2023 à 19 h 8
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        Why the hell would the Ducks trade Adam fantilli for a goalie
        6 juin 2023 à 20 h 9
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        There's a high discrepancy in value to drop from #2 OA and Gibson to get #7, #22 and Hart (who will likely need a contract in the $6-7 million range), especially in this draft.

        I don't even think a prospect like Gauthier, York or Brink moves the needle much to warrant moving down from #2 to #7 in 2023. A 2023 early 2nd, or 2024 1st round pick is more in-line with valuation.
         
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