Billy739

Billy739
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Forum: Armchair-GMSun at 9:39 pm
Sujet: Big three team trade if the Jackets win the lottery
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SalamiCheese</b></div><div>This is not a problem of its cost, he has a six-year contract and he is an elite 1C which is 23 years old, the price will be very high, even if Eichel himself asks for a trade. We will definitely have to return 1-2 centers in the deal. From Columbus it will be PLD+ from Detroit Larkin+, it's simple.</div></div>

Ryan Oreilly when he was traded was one of the top 2 way Centers in the NHL and often top 3 in Faceoffs to boot
When he was traded he got Gregernko(KHL),Zadorov ,Compher and a 2nd round pick

Granted Eichel is 2 years younger and a better player but you're not going to get 2-3 top prospects and a couple high picks or nothing .(nor will you get an established player unless he's a #4 D or middle 6 winger.

Eichel to me


Domi , Poehling ,Juulsen and a 1st in 2022 that becomes a 1st in 2021 if MTL makes ECF that year.

you'd be getting way more then COL got for Oreilly .
The only other option i s a 3 way deal to maximize value like Sakic did with Duchene but it will get you mostly picks extra not increased prospect quality
Forum: Armchair-GMSun at 1:26 am
Sujet: Big three team trade if the Jackets win the lottery
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan</b></div><div>Because they aren't trading their franchise center</div></div>

Not really an option after the Management Shuffles done to keep Eichel from lashing out in the Media again Eichel's back where he was golfing during the playoffs.

He was Vocal about being done with missing the playoffs after 5 years pro and 0 appearances.
If you keep screwing him around his 2017 lash out will be back in full swing as he's already made statements this summer saying he's getting irritated with BUF

He's not the only one as Dominik Hasek showed , you have to leave to win
BUF always has been and always will be a losing team because they have bad ownership that cares more about seats being filled and jerseys sold then winning cups .(they've always been this way as its a Culture they've created )
Forum: Armchair-GMSun at 1:10 am
Sujet: Rakell Out Drouin In
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dan10900</b></div><div>bc Drouin sucks</div></div>

Maybe

Rakell in 282 games scored 205 points for 72% production rate
Drouin in 258 games scored 167 points for 65% production rate

Rakell had success when ANA had the top D core in the West as well as the deepest and best Faceoff Centers and Tandem of Anderson and Gibson .
Then he signed a big deal and since his production and time on ice dropped off .

Drouin played on a good team 1 season due to Stamkos Injury playing so well he was traded for a Legit top LD prospect just taken in the top 10 draft that year. Since coming to MTL a rebuilding team he's lead the PP every year . Drouins done well in a rebuilding team like MTL with a completly different forward group then he joined in 2017-18

Honestly Drouins younger and a good 3rd line player who can play Special Teams similar to Kessel
Rakell is a 3rd line 27 year old with declining play and numbers proving more and more he was a product of a successful system but when called upon to lead could handle the load.


Its not like we are talking about Sam Steele or Nick Suzuki
We're talking about a couple guys who both team though could be top line players legit in their own rights who failed to live up to expectations.
We're talking 2 guys who both need to go to contenders where they can be 3rd line regulars and win a cup .

Rakell makes sense for EDM's needs given his cap and the fact that Kassian is playing to wing for EDM most of the past 2 years he'll address their needs . Drouin makes the most sense on on a couple teams but i think CBJ makes the most sense given their PP issues but if we're talking legit Contender i'd say WSH or NSH make the most sense with NYR also making sense as an added boost to their already lethal PP with Panarin and Zabinjeb
Forum: Armchair-GM 7 aoû à 21 h 01
Forum: Armchair-GM 7 aoû à 20 h 52
Sujet: Rakell Out Drouin In
Add Donato to the MTL trade

i watch Andersson live in Moncton so i know he's good but its Barberio level maybe better.
I've watched NHL D from Yandle ,Oduya ,Andy Mac,Demers ,Beauchermin and Barberio to Savard ,Andersson,Spence,Mcisaac and the late luc Bourdon.
Each D has their own style but Mcisaac mimics Yandle while Andersson mimics Barberio IMO.
The rest arent really compariable outside they're all Wildcats D they play different styles

Add Donato who's a good middle 6 forward option for MTL's 2nd line with Domi then this deal becomes worth MTL's time .
no reason to sell on Drouin yet as he's lead our PP since he's arrived if nothing else .
Given how bad our PP is as far as offensive scoring we're not gonna give him away until he stops producing


Donato (use today)
Andersson(use tomorrow)
2nd in 2021 (use for Future)

thats worth Drouin to MTL
Forum: Armchair-GM 7 aoû à 7 h 19
Sujet: if habs win laf
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMs</b></div><div>Drouin played a lot on the RW before <a href="/users/Billy739" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Billy739</a> you watched Drouin play a lot</div></div>

Drouin played in TBL as a RW having a breakout Playoff Performance that lead to MTL being willing to pay the cost to get him.

He came to MTL jumping to Center directly after spending the summer Training with Pacioretty at Center the Coach thought it was a worthy gamble.Then MTL's LW was the weak point at the 2nd/3rd line role leading to Drouin playing there. Right now he's almost as productive as regular but scores less Goals on LW . Like Radulov he can play either side but if you want Goal scoring he needs room to skate as thats what defines him as a player.

MTL logically should have tried him at 2nd RW again but he was injured and Armia stepped up in Shaw's absence so there was no need really.

Right now IMO you're better off with Lehkonen-Suzuki-Drouin on 2nd and Byron-KK-Armia on 3rd
Byron produces less on his off wing. You need size not speed to battle on your off wing or else you end up injured like Evans in game 3 plastered fast first into the glass and left a bloody mess. Byron cant sacrifice speed and succeed as most of his points come from plays he carries in the OZ on rushes. Drouin has packed on 10+ pounds this past year building himself into a player that can skate and battle infront of the net as seen with his goal in game 3

Ideally Drouin needs a team with Consistency and Structure.
MTL doesnt have that for him as he's not a core player as much as we'd hoped he'd be.
Forum: Armchair-GM 7 aoû à 7 h 05
Sujet: Lineup tonight
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HadesOfSoCal</b></div><div>Y’all should really trade Domi this offseason. Dude doesn’t deserve to be on the 4th line when he could be on the 1st for other teams</div></div>

His Choice to play limited minutes in hopes of staying Covid free and not Dying . . .
Domi has been VERY Public and Open about this as he originally wasnt going to play this round and possibly not at all.

Domi made the choice to play with the Habs but its clear to everyone who watched him play Pre Pandemic that he's not playing with the same compete level and most importantly Contact he was before. Right now Domi doesnt deserve the spot over Poehling but he's getting it as he's a media darling right now litterally risking Death to play Hockey.

Domi under normal circumstances would be our top Center 5v5 like he was more of the past 2 years.
Right now we're playing him hoping by the 2nd round he'll settle in and start playing hard or Claude will bench him media darling or not.

But make no mistake Domi hasnt earned a starting spot this Camp or Playoffs and is just lucky he has a feel good story attached or he'd be benched just like he would be on Every NHL team in this same position .(thank Covid)
Forum: Armchair-GM30 jui à 16 h 46
Sujet: Big Anaheim Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMs</b></div><div>Or you are underrating Kulak
Gost isn't the same player
Doesn't worth it to take a change on him at 4.5M</div></div>

Ghost had an injury then came back to new coaches and a GM

After playing top RD for 1-2 years with Gudas
Then PHI new GM traded Gudas for Niskanen and traded for Braun
With Sanheim and Meyers having their breakout season Ghost never made it back into regular rotation

He's 1/5 D in the league who can play Top Pair RD and LD at over 30 points per season on both sides.
What he offers on PP alone should interest MTL given our RD is heavily stacked PP Leaders in Petry and Weber.

As a Playmaker along with Chariot they should create more then enough space for Weber and Petry

Habs fans should be familiar with both PHI coaches and understand Ghost isnt done he just needs out.
He's easily worth a Kulak who at a Career high might be a #5 D able to play 16 minutes IF and i mean IF PHI is lucky(luckily for MTL that's all PHI needs in a D today)
Forum: Armchair-GM23 jui à 7 h 40
Sujet: Needs to do something
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Richard88</b></div><div>I think we can get a higher 2nd for Jost than our own 2nd back which will (hopefully) be in the early 60's. A pick that late rarely ever amounts to an NHL player so I'd rather just keep Jost if this is the return. Jost will be really cheap to keep around and provides good depth and versatility and can help this team win right now which is more than can be said for those picks which if we're lucky might amount to a player like Jost...</div></div>

MTL would give you a higher 2nd but overall Jost isnt worth much more outside maybe a very late 1st to a conference final team

Jost to me is a guy COL trades in a bigger package as the small piece or with a high 2nd accompanied by a similar player like Jake Evans(Similar style from AHL points leader in Laval the past 2 years and had good call up outings but is a clear cut bottom 6 guy at the NHL level and nothing more )
Forum: Armchair-GM23 jui à 7 h 30
Sujet: Domi for 8th overall is a bad idea
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Gordon_Bombay</b></div><div>That is only central scouting. Many still have him between 4 and 6. He is almost a year younger than Rossi, which should not be forgotten, as Rossi and Laf are the oldest top prosects. It is also likely that he has two full month to play in Sweden before the NHL draft. I am not so sure when the CHL is going to start.</div></div>
That would make 3 wingers in the top 4 draft spots , is that what you're saying ?
Based on History , Teams needs with those picks ... i just cant see this .

Unless you're suggesting Raymond will go higher then the German Strutzle which is confusing given his stand out play

6th is really a hard sell but i guess is semi believable if you ignore the team at 6th OA's needs entirely but any higher is just not logical

I mean Raymonds good , they all are but outside Lafreniere ,Strutzle and Drysdale IMO the other top 10 ranked players are all similarly projects as top 6 players leaning more towards 2nd line or pair players who long term will likely rise. I believe if you looked at who owns those picks factoring in what they need you'll find Raymond falls to 7th at the earliest as well
Forum: Armchair-GM23 jui à 7 h 09
Sujet: Trying to contend
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Gordon_Bombay</b></div><div>a cap hit of 7m till he is 39 years old is not a great contract.

Also, he did not have a great season

I think you would have a hard time to find a taker for Burns, Vlasic and Eriksson no matter what return you'd get. I don't think many GMs would take on those contracts even without giving up something.

Or you have to retain like half or their salary or something to get a return for them that is decent.</div></div>

or pay a team to retain said cap in a 3 way trade?

That's what i suggested and at 4.5m cap MTL can use him 2-3 years then trade him with the ability to retain up to 1m more if need be. Given what Kimmo Timmonen got at 39 coming straight off IR to his new team i'm sure Vlasic will be fine and we can flip him

SJS pays , MTL waits 2-3 years to flip him before they get anything more then what he'll provide on ice.

That said everyone said Weber to MTL was a loss then he showed up producing so well fans shut up about losing the Subban trade and now actually claim we won it .

Fans always say dumb stuff in MTL , its the sad part about being a Habs fan
Forum: Armchair-GM23 jui à 7 h 06
Sujet: Trying to contend
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Subbanator7667</b></div><div>Vlasic at even 4.5 million is a huge no to MTL. The only way MTL takes on that albatross of a contract to add onto the albatross of contracts they have is is San Jose pays them to take him. Why give up the younger cheaper and just as good option in Kulak ontop of MULTIPLE PICKS.....for a player who is likely going to be in the AHL for the last 3 years of his contract, we already have Karl Alzner doing that, Bergevin wont make that mistake again</div></div>

Shhhh real MTL fan is talking there Subban Fanatic

Hows that Subban Deal ?
You swore up and down His deal was worth it and the best was yet to come ...

Shows what you can offer when it comes to contract value
you talked so much smack about Weber washing out but here he is solid as ever
PK on his 3rd team in 4 years likely to be traded again soon from what i hear.

its always funny to hear you talk about contract value when you thought for so long Subbans was fair value hahaha
Forum: Armchair-GM23 jui à 7 h 05
Sujet: Domi for 8th overall is a bad idea
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Gordon_Bombay</b></div><div>I very much disagree. Raymond is the 4th best prospect in this draft. He plays agianst much better competiton than the others and also plays for one of the best teams outside the NHL which limits his ice time, but he can be very good against his age group. I am sure you remeber the U18 WC when he dominated. goa ahed goal, equalizer in the 3rd as well as the goal in OT. Raymond is a great player and no one should be shocked if he goes 4th overall. He could fall a bit because he is no centre or D

The Devis should select Holtz, best SHL scorer since Markus Naslund and Peter Forsberg at that age (he is not quite as good as Raymond, but gets more ice time because Djurgardens is not Frölunda, but he is a great shooter)

He will be perfect on the wing of Hischer</div></div>

Raymond was basically the undisputed #2 before the year started
as each month passed he dropped to the rank of #4 among EU skaters and #6th-8th OA
The Pandemic was kind of a blessing for Raymond as it stopped the free fall he's faced this year after a stellar year before that.

Raymonds good but MTL was looking at him with their 9th OA pick as a real option because he's ranked behind Centers ,D and a German who pushed him aside for top Winger position. i say Raymond ends up in BUF 7th OA at best given the teams needs that have the 2-7th picks