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Créé par: KentMcNally

Équipe: 2024-25 Canadiens de Montréal

Date de création initiale: 10 mai 2023

Publié: 10 mai 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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If they draft Michkov then the Habs won’t have an impact player next year.
Let’s say their goaltenders plays worse than they did this year (since Montembeault played better than expected) and they get another high draft pick and they get Kiviharju on defence.
Then sign PLD as a UFA
Should they then start trading draft picks (as in the trade below) to round out the defence and hope to get a goalie via free agency or the 2nd or 3rd rounds of upcoming drafts? Trey Augustine, Carson Bjarnason or Michael Hrabal perhaps?
I could add more to the BYRAM trade (like Jared Davidson or William Trudeau) if necessary

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Caufield, Cole	7	8 000 000 $
Barron, Justin	4	4 000 000 $
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël	4	3 000 000 $
Xhekaj, Arber	4	3 000 000 $

CRÉÉ	ANS	CAP HIT
Michkov, Matvei	3	900 000 $
Dubois, Pierre Luc	7	8 000 000 $
Kiviharju, Aron	3	900 000 $
Hutson, Lane	4	3 500 000 $
Augustine, Trey	3	900 000 $
Byram, Bowen	7	7 500 000 $

Transactions

MTL

Byram, Bowen [Droits de RFA]

COL

Matheson, Michael
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (MTL)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (CGY)

Détails additionnels:

+ Adam Engstrom

MTL

Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (CGY)

CGY

Anderson, Josh

MTL

Choix de 6e ronde en 2024 (BUF)

BUF

Allen, Jake
Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (MTL)

MTL

Choix de 5e ronde en 2025 (PIT)

PIT

Dvorak, Christian
Norlinder, Mattias [Droits de RFA]

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
2024
2025

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
28	82 500 000 $	78 039 167 $	1 022 500 $	4 557 500 $	4 460 833 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Caufield, Cole 8 000 000 $8 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 7	Suzuki, Nick 7 875 000 $7 875 000 $ C UFA - 6	Slafkovsky, Juraj 950 000 $950 000 $ (3 500 000 $$4M) AD, AG RFA - 1
Dubois, Pierre Luc 8 000 000 $8 000 000 $	Dach, Kirby 3 362 500 $3 362 500 $ C, AD RFA - 2	Michkov, Matvei 900 000 $900 000 $
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 1	Beck, Owen 853 333 $853 333 $ (80 000 $$80K) C RFA - 3	Roy, Joshua 835 000 $835 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 2
Farrell, Sean 897 500 $897 500 $ (500 000 $$500K) AD, AG RFA - 1	Kidney, Riley 836 667 $836 667 $ (57 500 $$58K) C RFA - 2	Mesar, Filip 886 667 $886 667 $ AD, C RFA - 3
	Evans, Jake 1 700 000 $1 700 000 $ C UFA - 1	Gallagher, Brendan 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3
		Armia, Joel 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Guhle, Kaiden 863 333 $863 333 $ (420 000 $$420K) DG/DD RFA - 1	Hutson, Lane 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
Byram, Bowen 7 500 000 $7 500 000 $	Kiviharju, Aron 900 000 $900 000 $	Augustine, Trey 900 000 $900 000 $
Harris, Jordan 1 400 000 $1 400 000 $ DG/DD RFA - 1	Xhekaj, Arber 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ DG/DD RFA	Dobes, Jakub 925 000 $925 000 $ G RFA - 1
Mailloux, Logan 875 000 $875 000 $ DD RFA - 2	Barron, Justin 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ DD RFA	Primeau, Cayden 890 000 $890 000 $ G RFA - 1
Kovacevic, Johnathan 766 667 $766 667 $ DD UFA - 1	Savard, David 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ DD UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
		Price, Carey 10 500 000 $10 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 2

10 mai 2023 à 7 h 33

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10 mai 2023 à 7 h 36

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Flames decline

10 mai 2023 à 7 h 38

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I wonder if Michkov really falls:

I think CBJ's list would be Carlsson Smith Michkov and San Jose's List would be Carlsson Michkov Smith. Which leaves the Habs with smith

10 mai 2023 à 7 h 41

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Quoting: sharcuda22

I wonder if Michkov really falls:

I think CBJ's list would be Carlsson Smith Michkov and San Jose's List would be Carlsson Michkov Smith. Which leaves the Habs with smith

I would be happy with Smith being on Montreal’s 2nd line with Dubois and Slafkovsky

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10 mai 2023 à 7 h 50

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Flames have zero interest in Anderson.

10 mai 2023 à 8 h 4

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Quoting: Flames1217

Flames have zero interest in Anderson.

Ok. Josh can go somewhere else for a 2nd round pick. It’s more about freeing up cap space. I think that a team that wants to contend right now would give up a mid to late second round pick for him. Maybe Montreal even retains ina trade if they could get a late first round pick instead

10 mai 2023 à 8 h 5

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Montreal should just go best player available at 5 and whereever Florida picks, decent chance at best goalie available at Florida pick or montreal 2nd rounder, and a dman to round out three decent picks going forward. If Montreal trades out of 5 for somebody trading up to get michkov, would be kind of interesting also as long as that first coming back isn’t too much of a drop.

10 mai 2023 à 8 h 6

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Quoting: KentMcNally

The question on anderson isn’t his abilities right now, it’s that contract is a bit of a anchor for a deal, lots of teams would ante up if he was on a 2 year deal and hit a window, but 4 could be rough going forward.

10 mai 2023 à 8 h 8

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Quoting: Birtle34

And this is exactly why Calgary has no interest in him.

We have enough long contracts that may not end well in the final years. We do not need another one in Anderson.

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10 mai 2023 à 8 h 10

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Quoting: Flames1217

And this is exactly why Calgary has no interest in him.

We have enough long contracts that may not end well in the final years. We do not need another one in Anderson.

Ya jets are in a similar boat and they love to send him to Winnipeg also

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10 mai 2023 à 8 h 11

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Avs likely aren't interested in moving Byram but, if they were, they aren't going to want a package like this

10 mai 2023 à 8 h 13

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Quoting: Flames1217

And this is exactly why Calgary has no interest in him.

We have enough long contracts that may not end well in the final years. We do not need another one in Anderson.

How about Anderson to L.A. with $1,250,000.00 retained per annum for their 1st this year (#23)?

10 mai 2023 à 8 h 24

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Avs already have a bad former forward now defense in Kermit MacDermid, no need for Matheson. Also 3 late and late year 1st, sound like a lot but I'm willing to bet doll hairs that none of those picks come close to the level of Bo Byram.

10 mai 2023 à 8 h 26

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Simple answer is - No. The Habs still aren't close to giving up future assets for players and that Byram trade is an unheard of price that the Habs would be stupid to pay.

You're also not getting nearly enough for Habs players in the trades. Anderson gets a 1st + , Allen can be sold as a rental for more then that, Dvorak is still an NHL calibre center and won't have to include a prospect to be moved for that pathetic return

10 mai 2023 à 8 h 29

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Quoting: KentMcNally

How about Anderson to L.A. with $1,250,000.00 retained per annum for their 1st this year (#23)?

Don't see the fit in L.A.

They have Iaffalo who plays a similar role, makes less money and is equally as effective.

Don't want to sound mean or anything but I can't see any team giving MTL anything really of value for Anderson. You might get a 4th or 5th with some retention but no where near a first.

Everyone knows that the final.two years of that contract is going to be real rough. Lots of hard miles on him and his style of play doesn't tend to age well.

10 mai 2023 à 8 h 44

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Quoting: Flames1217

I think they get much more than a 4th or 5th round pick for Anderson, especially with retention

10 mai 2023 à 8 h 49

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Quoting: Subbanator7667

I thought that the returns were low but the focus was on the young players they were developing (and Byram via trade).

I wanted to avoid the “Anderson is garbage, he only learned to skate 18 months ago and does not have opposable thumbs so he cannot even hold a hockey stick” type of comments that come from some Habs haters. LOL

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10 mai 2023 à 8 h 50

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Quoting: KentMcNally

I think they get much more than a 4th or 5th round pick for Anderson, especially with retention

I would be interested to see. I don't think many teams would bite for more than a third.

He is in a similar situation to Kadri. He might still be an effective player but at the end of the day his contract is too much and too long.

10 mai 2023 à 8 h 59

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Quoting: NMAvsFan

Avs likely aren't interested in moving Byram but, if they were, they aren't going to want a package like this

You would turn down 3 firsts for him?

10 mai 2023 à 9 h 2

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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

You would turn down 3 firsts for him?

Plus Adam Engstrom, who is apparently developing nicely in Sweden

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Quoting: Flames1217

Habs have literally turned down a 1st plus for him multiple times. One was as late as the last TDL so you're wrong in thinking teams wjnt pay a premium for him

10 mai 2023 à 9 h 21

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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

You would turn down 3 firsts for him?

Avs need roster players, not prospects. I would think, should the Avs decide to make any deals involving their own roster players, they would want reliable middle-six types. But, I suppose the picks could be used to acquire that from other teams so, maybe this could work.

10 mai 2023 à 10 h 35

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Oh good. Just what Calgary needs: another overpaid middle 6 winger they can't afford.

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10 mai 2023 à 10 h 44

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Quoting: NMAvsFan

It's just alot to turn down for a guy with serious and consistent injury issues

10 mai 2023 à 12 h 50

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dumb are these trades... mtl does none of them.. matheson is a first pair defenseman and i would not trade him one for one for byram just silliness is your trade... I know he is not makar but he is so skilled and fast and has size and he is better than Byram in all ways....

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