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The Big 4 Trades

Créé par: Theo_nollaf
Équipe: 2023-24 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 3 mai 2023
Publié: 3 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Four major trades need to be done in Winnipeg, but a rebuild is unlikely. I think the values across the board here make sense as Winnipeg seeks picks and prospects and trade players to realistic team fits.
I'm aware of the Peterson, Terravainen and DeMelo partial no-trade clauses so you can take those trades as unrealistic if you will
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 875 000 $
21 550 000 $
31 050 000 $
2835 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
2900 000 $
12 250 000 $
Transactions
1.
WPG
  1. Armia, Joel
  2. Barron, Justin
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [Droits de RFA]
2.
WPG
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (MIN)
MIN
  1. Stanley, Logan [Droits de RFA]
3.
WPG
  1. Teräväinen, Teuvo
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PHI)
CAR
  1. Heinola, Ville
  2. Wheeler, Blake (3 250 000 $ retained)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (MIN)
4.
WPG
  1. Clarke, Brandt
  2. Fagemo, Samuel [Droits de RFA]
  3. Petersen, Cal
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (LAK)
Détails additionnels:
2024 2nd round pick upgrades to a 2024 1st if the Kings make the Conference Finals and Hellebuyck plays 75% of playoff games
LAK
  1. Hellebuyck, Connor
Détails additionnels:
Extension in place
5.
WPG
  1. Blomqvist, Joel
  2. Granlund, Mikael
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (VGK)
Détails additionnels:
2024 3rd round pick upgrades to a Pittsburgh's 2024 2nd round pick if the Penguins make the playoffs
6.
WPG
  1. Krebs, Peyton
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (BUF)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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Logo de MTL
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Logo de WPG
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Logo de WPG
2024
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Logo de PHI
Logo de LAK
Logo de WPG
Logo de VGK
Logo de WPG
Logo de WPG
Logo de WPG
Logo de WPG
2025
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Logo de WPG
Logo de WPG
Logo de BUF
Logo de WPG
Logo de WPG
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $78 530 357 $0 $2 387 500 $3 969 643 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
7 142 857 $7 142 857 $
AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance412 500 $$412K)
C, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
1 875 000 $1 875 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
2 166 667 $2 166 667 $
AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
5 875 000 $5 875 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 3
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
5 950 000 $5 950 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance275 000 $$275K)
DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
1 550 000 $1 550 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
775 000 $775 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
900 000 $900 000 $
C
UFA - 2

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3 mai 2023 à 20 h 37
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Carolina laughs that out of the building, but the rest seems ok.
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3 mai 2023 à 20 h 38
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Kings aren't trading Clarke.
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3 mai 2023 à 20 h 38
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Over valuing Winnipeg players in most of these trades, PLD is fine value wise but Habs don't have anyone behind Barron for prospects so he would be a no
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3 mai 2023 à 20 h 41
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laugh Rob Blake isn't trading Brandt Clarke for a 31 year old Connor Hellebuyck when he new deal kicks in next summer. LA would need to include a 1st just to move Peterson other than Clarke that's a crap offer for Helly.
3 mai 2023 à 20 h 42
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Pens say yes. This would legit be a move to try and give Crosby/Malkin/Letang one more shot at a cup. Plus you took Granlund which makes me very happy.
3 mai 2023 à 20 h 48
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Canes pass. That wheeler contract is an anchor and that isn't enough for Teravainen
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3 mai 2023 à 20 h 52
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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
laugh Rob Blake isn't trading Brandt Clarke for a 31 year old Connor Hellebuyck when he new deal kicks in next summer. LA would need to include a 1st just to move Peterson other than Clarke that's a crap offer for Helly.


Gotta trade good players to get good players. Unless LA is comfortable going into their young core's prime without a true option in net, then this trade makes a lot of sense. Hellebuyck is a world beater and immediately makes them true contenders
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3 mai 2023 à 20 h 53
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I'm VERY much against the idea of trading Barron. But no 1st round pick AND getting rid of Armia...you're making a strong case for it.
I'd be tempted to take that deal, and try to find a remplacement to Barron (maybe a Durzi).
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Canes pass. That wheeler contract is an anchor and that isn't enough for Teravainen


Both have a year left. Wheeler is cheaper with retention. Wheeler is experienced and coming off of a better season offensively. Terravainen seems to be out of the good graces in Carolina with no consistent lineup spot in Carolina due to their depth on the wing. Makes sense to me
3 mai 2023 à 20 h 56
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Quoting: Subbanator7667
Over valuing Winnipeg players in most of these trades, PLD is fine value wise but Habs don't have anyone behind Barron for prospects so he would be a no


I know you're talking about the right side but the Habs have a great young D core even after this (Guhle, Harris, Xhekaj, Mailloux, Beadin and lots of picks) The value here is too good to pass up from Montreal's standpoint.
3 mai 2023 à 20 h 57
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Quoting: Theo_nollaf
Gotta trade good players to get good players. Unless LA is comfortable going into their young core's prime without a true option in net, then this trade makes a lot of sense. Hellebuyck is a world beater and immediately makes them true contenders


I'd imagine that Rob Blake just re-signing Joonas Korpisalo. Much cheaper and he played solid there. Sorry i don't see Hellebuyck signing long term with LA taxes alone will kill him.
3 mai 2023 à 21 h 1
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Both have a year left. Wheeler is cheaper with retention. Wheeler is experienced and coming off of a better season offensively. Terravainen seems to be out of the good graces in Carolina with no consistent lineup spot in Carolina due to their depth on the wing. Makes sense to me


What? Teravainen is a top 6 player in Carolina. He's not playing right now because he's got a broken hand. Wheeler is slower, and not as good defensively. Teuvo is better on the penalty kill, Teuvo is WAY younger... why would Carolina do this?
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3 mai 2023 à 21 h 2
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No from every team
3 mai 2023 à 21 h 5
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Quoting: ohmyjlord
I'm VERY much against the idea of trading Barron. But no 1st round pick AND getting rid of Armia...you're making a strong case for it.
I'd be tempted to take that deal, and try to find a remplacement to Barron (maybe a Durzi).


same here
3 mai 2023 à 21 h 5
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Drop the 2nd and ****emo and LA still says no.
3 mai 2023 à 21 h 7
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Pens say yes. This would legit be a move to try and give Crosby/Malkin/Letang one more shot at a cup. Plus you took Granlund which makes me very happy.


I’m not doing that deal unless the first is ‘24.
3 mai 2023 à 21 h 11
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I’m saying yes as Pens GM.
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3 mai 2023 à 21 h 12
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Quoting: Pensman69
I’m not doing that deal unless the first is ‘24.


You wouldn’t take a point per game C as a 3C if it meant giving up the 16th OA pick?
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3 mai 2023 à 21 h 16
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You wouldn’t take a point per game C as a 3C if it meant giving up the 16th OA pick?


Nope, I wouldn’t trade the *14th OA* in a *deep draft* that we desperately need a forward with top 6 upside for 1 year of Scheifle at 31 years old.

Again, next year I would. Draft isn’t as star studded as this one and with the trade going through we would likely finish in 20ish range hopefully, making it more value for us and more comfortable for us to pull the trigger.
3 mai 2023 à 21 h 20
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Los Angeles can't afford one season of Connor Hellebuyck -- can't afford the cost of acquiring him, can't afford his cap hit without sending Cal Petersen and one other major contract back for him, and can't afford to re-sign him.

You Winnipeg guys should just give it up -- we're not trading Brandt Clarke for him, and without him, we don't have the pieces to make you guys happy,
3 mai 2023 à 21 h 23
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Quoting: Pensman69
Nope, I wouldn’t trade the *14th OA* in a *deep draft* that we desperately need a forward with top 6 upside for 1 year of Scheifle at 31 years old.

Again, next year I would. Draft isn’t as star studded as this one and with the trade going through we would likely finish in 20ish range hopefully, making it more value for us and more comfortable for us to pull the trigger.


Duh. There's two sides to a trade. And in this case, the team giving up the only currently good player and only good one for the next 3 years needs something in return.
3 mai 2023 à 21 h 25
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Duh. There's two sides to a trade. And in this case, the team giving up the only currently good player and only good one for the next 3 years needs something in return.


What are you talking about dude lmfao
3 mai 2023 à 21 h 28
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What are you talking about dude lmfao


He's attempting to justify his foolish trades by using flawed narratives. Straw man arguments.
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3 mai 2023 à 21 h 40
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Quoting: Caniac2000
What? Teravainen is a top 6 player in Carolina. He's not playing right now because he's got a broken hand. Wheeler is slower, and not as good defensively. Teuvo is better on the penalty kill, Teuvo is WAY younger... why would Carolina do this?


Why would anyone want that douchebag Wheeler, he's such a petulant clown, Jets are probably stuck with him unfortunately.
3 mai 2023 à 21 h 50
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Quoting: MoreHitzSeider
He's attempting to justify his foolish trades by using flawed narratives. Straw man arguments.


What flawed narratives? That players take time to develop and Crosby, Malkin and Letang are old? The trade comparison is the Horvat trade, Raty is a better propect than Blomqvist, Beauvillier and Granlund are comparable and the first is slightly better and a 3rd is added because Scheifele is better than Horvat and Raty better than Blomqvist.
 
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