20 sept. 2017
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WhoCares_ItsAFantasyGame</b></div><div>Problem with any scenarios concerning Dubois is that if I put in a first and a second round picks with players it’s either the “WE’LL GET MORE!!” or “ARE YOU CRAZY? HE’S WORTH A 3RD ROUNDER AT BEST!” either way I get the crazies from Win who think Dubois will get them the moon or the crazies from Mtl that want to give them a third and a prospect picked in the 7th round playing in Timbucktoo Iteland…
I’m just trying to give Win a fair deal at this time. While Dubois is young, he still hasn’t broken the 100 pts/year and his valie is a second line centerman capable of bouncing to the first if need be. So, I figure a high first round, a capable Center signed for a few years who can’t really demande out of that crappy city and a guy who can play hard and put up points would give them a balance until they can find a younger player who just wants to play in the league, even in Win…</div></div>
Yeah but you need, at least, a decent prospect in that package. Dvorak is seen by many WPG's fans a negative value (I disagree, but anyway). Pezzetta holds little to no value for a retooling/rebuilding team, other than a body to put in a jersey. And that 1st is very late. You need at least a Kidney-type prospect in there, otherwise, I'm holding on to Dubois if I'm WPG, knowing I'll get more value than that at the deadline, as a rental.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SKWPG</b></div><div>Can HABS fan enlighten me and WPG fans as to why MTL seems to want to keep sending Dvorak to WPG?
He's not horrible and retaining is good. WPG needs to start their rebuild and will need some filler players, but Dvorak? There doesn't seem to be much good about him.
WPG would be stuck with him for 2 years because no one else will want him.
The 30% retention is definitely an improvement over trying to dump him in WPG, but then WPG has to give up a 3rd? No thanks.
Don't get it.</div></div>
I can think of a few honest reasons, but the two main ones would be;
1) Because unlike Anderson, Dvorak's NTC only kicks-in on July 1st. The assumption is that Anderson, who has an 8-team protection list, could make it difficult for the Habs to include him in a package for Dubois. Dvorak is seen as the closest "veteran" that could make sense, as it gives WPG a two-year window to use him during their retool, and flip him over. I don't think WPG would get stuck with him. In fact, I think Dvorak is exactly the type of player playoffs team are looking for at the deadline. Moreso than a guy like Hoffman, who many WPG fans seem to be more open to the idea of acquiring in a Dubois trade for some reason I really don't understand. You just need to know what to expect with him; a 200-ft player, good screener in front of the net, good on the PK, good on faceoffs, who's gonna produce in sequence.
2) Many Habs fan seem to think that Dvorak is more expandable to the Habs if we acquire Dubois, who's also a center. I kinda disagree with that personally, as Jake Evans' injury record kinda make him a bit of a question mark. He has the ability to play 3C, but health is a concern. And while I do like Owen Beck a lot, I'd rather see him in Laval for a year.