Dude, this is a BRUTAL overpay. Kyrou is not going anywhere.

Trading Kyrou defeats the purpose of acquiring Meier - its a fast retool not take a step forward (getting Meier) and a step back (moving Kyrou).

FS speculates they’ll use the two 1st picks they got (not their own) and add some prospects to acquire Meier.

Why would the Blues buy Meier now?

I have no clue. Frank Sereville just tweeted we got involved.

In my opinion which maybe the minority…..I do not like the Jordan Kyrou situation. I’ll keep it to myself. My opinion is that this would be a massive upgrade.

That’s unfortunate then.

Seriously? Our best player of the season, who is going to go PPG back-to-back at 24. Good grief, man.

Chatter amongst insiders is the Blues are in. Leveraging their 3 firsts and a couple prospects (not trading their own first) is what Seravalli says.

Seriously.

Why would the blues move kyrou???

Aren't you robbing Peter to pay Paul here? Kyrou out. Meier in. And you're giving up assets on top of it? Plus Meier will be more expensive. Makes no sense to me.

I'd be trying to add Meier and keeping Kyrou.

People see a guy who doesn't hit people and immediately have their brains explode

Screw it:

He is the most sheltered 24 year old top 6 ever. He is going to destroy the cap balance of the team with his deal.

He fits a rush style team, and it may as well be 5 on 4 if it’s a dump and chase scenario, which it is in St. Louis more than not.

He rarely carries the play.

He doesn’t particularly drive shots, Robert Thomas does.

He has as many fingers as body checks this year. 10. 1 every 5 games.

He doesn’t block shots at all.

He’s extremely soft with the puck. If he cannot dangle or deke his way from a defender he will lose it nearly every time. Any body contact he loses the puck.

Yes, he is amazing at crossing the blue line with the puck, and has an instinctual shot. A shot is easy to replace with Timo Meier, or another skater later down the road.

With his speed he should be on a team that can use it. The Blues system does not allow him to excel in his strengths.

He is unequivocally not worth 65 million dollars over 8 years. He isn’t worth 48 million over 8 years.

This will only magnify after his aav hits the cap, and the pieces around him become lesser.

He is a liability who is extremely talented offensively in a manner that does not fit the core play style of the team, and is a net negative despite his goals and assists.

Can't see Kyrou going. Can see picks/prospects.

Kyrou doesn't fit the SJS timeline.

I think it could make sense, there's a lot of smoke around them moving their defensemen which is probably their biggest hurdle to re-contention, and if you're going to be building around Thomas and Kyrou it makes sense to get a guy around their ages to play with them now in their primes rather than waiting possibly 2-3 years for those late 2023 picks to become impact players.

Robert Thomas doesn’t hit and I love him. Brains intact.

Apparently you know more than Army does. Blues should hire you to be GM. You have it all figured out, right?

You remind me of that old tv character from the show "Cheers." Cliff Clavin.

Then trade him to the Timo Meier runner ups and get multiple pieces for him. Anyways if they acquire Timo Meier, half of these concerns are eliminated, because Kyrou becomes the complimentary player if they are playing on a line together.

While I agree,

I'm more concerned about the contract for Meier and where that leaves us with as well as the cost to acquire. If we're moving out the two late firsts and a minimal prospect and can sign him to an 8x8 sure by all means do that. But if his contract demands are what i'd imagine they will be around the 9-10m AAV mark then I dont see how we fit him without selling off a defensive piece.

Like the player, don't think this is the time to be doing it though. Although, I guess you are never gauranteed the opportunity to arise again.

I avoid bars, otherwise you’re probably right.

This opinion has existed for a few years. It isn’t going to change.

I’d rather wingers like TJ Oshie, Vlad Tarasenko, Timo Meier(?), Brayden Schenn, Ivan Barbashev, Sammy Blais, Pavel Buchnevich, David Perron, man this list gets long. Players who will use their physicality to score goals, whether it be driving the net or using body checks to break up oppositions plays. Players who aren’t nearly guaranteed to lose the puck when touched.

I may just be speculating here but maybe, just maybe, Doug Armstrong plans to build around a new core of players? I kinda feel like that's part of a rebuild/retool, Identifying your core pieces and building around them.
Thomas only has 11 hits anyways. Jack Hughes, Patrick Kane, Johnny Gaudreau have 11 hits or less.

Do I think he's overpaid, a little bit. I would have preferred a number that starts with 7 but that isn't going to be the detriment of this team.
A gross overpayment to get a guy who has a qualifying offer of $10M per year could be the downfall of this team, considering locker room morale. I mean this is just a lateral or backwards move.

You are entitled to your opinion but your opinion is just wrong and this trade is trash. sorry not sorry.

This is magnanimously clueless to a degree that would make a caricature blush. Yeah, you're definitely a Blues fan.

Dude, Schenn has been utterly repugnant in our own zone this season. Kyrou has been about 5007 times better defensively than Schenn, even with his brutal 10-game start to the season. And this thing where you imagine he doesn't drive play... like, you simply cannot be serious about some of this stuff.

If I am right, which I’m pretty confident I am, the problem is going to be magnified as he takes almost 10% of the team’s cap but is an overall net negative on the ice.

Best of luck

Nothing wrong with disagreeing. I know I am the minority in this opinion. But I cannot unsee.

If he ends up staying I’m not like mad. He has a great shot and his style is fun to watch. A lot of his goals are highlight worthy. It just isn’t the style of hockey the Blues have played for a long time, and it is a liability in my eyes.

There are a lot of non-physical players like you mentioned. Many more beyond them. I don’t hate them.

Patrick Kane is lightyears better than Jordan Kyrou. He can do whatever he wants. He can bring pillows to the rink if he wants he’s so good.

Same with Jack Hughes.

I wouldn’t want Gaudreau on my team. Good luck to him.