The only way that we will trade Monahan is if we receive a 2023 1st + a solid prospect minimum.

If we don't receive that, we will resign him.

Then just resign him then.

Seeing as he is only months removed from being a complete cap dump and has “shined” playing in only a handful of games, playing an increased role, on a lineup that projects to be near the bottom, asking for this level of return is an overreaction on many levels.

Echoing this exactly. The sample size on Monahan being good again is so small. I hope he’s back as a productive NHLer. But realistically, he needs to be near a PPG player at the trade deadline to command a return including a 2023 first. And if that’s the case, Montreal is probably having a better season than we all expected and fighting for a spot on the playoff bubble.

If he continues at his current pace until the TDL, he's likely traded for more than a handful of spots at the draft.

I dont think theres any scenario at all where it would make sense for Montrealto do that trade. Maybe if they magically become a contender and Monahan isnt part of the reason they are. Realistically,
moving Monahan to move a little bit up in the draft and a prospect they don't need isn't ever going to be worth considering.



I don't think you've been following what 1sts have returned at the deadline if you think that.

Monahan needs a larger sample size to determine what he might return, but he's obviously not going to be traded next week either.

If MTL fans actually believe Monahan has come back to life, why not just resign him? Looking at MTLs contracts, with the departures of Dadonov/Drouin, wouldn’t a cheap extension to Monahan make more sense? What’s MTLs top 6 looking to be next season?

Until very recently, there were conversations about whether Monahan was even able to still be an NHL player given his injury history and his already weak skating. I’m not saying that only PPG players can fetch a 1st, only that Monahan still comes with a lot of risk

HABS will not trade Monahan now. He fills in perfectly on the right side of Suzuki and Caufield and he will stay there until the TDL. HABS will resign him 4 years $5.5M unless some team offers the HABS a Stup!d deal for him where they can`t say NO

Then just re-sign him because he is literally a guy MTL took as a cap dump that’s played 6 games. Tell me how a cap dump in 6 games garners a a 1st and a prospect as a rental.😂

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It's simply because he's 28 and they already have Dvorak on the books for three seasons. I think Monahan is only re-signed if Dvorak is dealt and if he's willing to sign at a similar price as the latter, and for a better package that teams are willing to give up for Monahan.

As for the top 6, I think it'd be

Caufield-Suzuki-Anderson
Slafkovsky-Dach-?

There is no one in the organization that I could see jumping into that top-6 spot next season, so it's likely an external addition or a top 2023 draft pick.

Dadonov will get us a bucket of pucks, and Jo is a different problem he is not playing well enough to merit a pick at the TDL. Hopefully he picks it up.

Why do y'all assume that the trade is occurring right now although it's mentioned that it's a deadline deal? No Habs fans are claiming he's worth that much if he's dealt right now, they're just assuming he continues at this pace until the TDL.

So based on your response, it only strengthens my thoughts that MTL should keep him if he’s “turned it around” and could be resigned to a fair deal.

You’ve noted Dvorak on the books but don’t slate him to be the 2C (why not Monahan then?). You also state having a 2023 pick being in the top 6, which is highly unlikely, seeing as even someone of Slafkovskys ilk, wasn’t able to fill that role following being drafted in the summer

My comment didn’t mean to trade Dadonov. I was just pointing out the forward departures coming , as well as the cap space, and that MTL would have room for the Hart Trophy runner up Monahan

Because the 2C of the future (based on what the team currently has) is Kirby Dach. They're not just going to re-sign Monahan as a top 6 winger option if they can get a good package at the TDL and sign another winger in FA or play a 3rd liner above his depth chart position.

Also, Slafkovsky was never drafted to slot in the top 6 right away as the GM mentioned, and there are about 5 or 6 guys from the historically good 2023 draft who could be drafted above Slafkovsky if he were in that class.

Meh, doesn’t add up. On one side “Monahan is great, look at the package we should get” but then there’s an obvious hole and cap space on MTLs roster headed forward, where if you truely believe Monahan was still good, you’d keep him.

I’m not implying that at all. Only that the sample size needs to increase for any team to give up a solid return for Monahan. And this early in the season, you can’t really glean anything meaningful from 6 games. If that were the case, Valeri Nichuskin would be on pace for an 82 goal season.

It definitely adds up. Teams that are just starting to rebuild don't re-sign their 28-year-old expiring contracts if good offers are on the table. It's way too short-sighted.

Lol, dude, he stinks.

"Monahan needs a larger sample size to determine what he might return, but he's obviously not going to be traded next week either." I'm not sure why people feel the need to repeat "small sample" on a proposal that is clearly looking at the trade deadline.

And Monahan's skating has certainly not been weak.

My point was there really isn't a scenario where Montreal moves and retains on Monahan at the deadline to move up 5 to 10 spots in the draft and take a prospect that doesn't have value to them.

Include Xhekaj and this is a trade I approve

This is tiring.

Point: Monahan has played 6 games. If he continues to be good for another 50 games, then sure big returns can be discussed. Obviously teams aren’t making splashy trades in October.

Even in his draft year, Monahan’s scouting report was that he was a weak skater. That’s exactly what made the double hip surgery particularly scary: he’s a guy that can’t afford to slow down much.

Sorry we are a bit crazy here in Montreal, I tried to be different by being a fan of another team but there's nothing we can do about it

Monahan needed a 1st to Be dumped and 6 games later he's worth a 2023 1st + a solid prospect MINIMUM

Oh boy....