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Armchair-GM
2 août à 19 h 24
Sujet:
next year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ArakinSkywalker</b></div><div>Because i've come up with a legit counter to every point you've brought up?</div></div>
Because you think RyJo and Kovalenko as full time second line players is good depth. Even Acciari at 3rd line is mid.
Never stated Manson was a long term core piece. You put those words in my mouth.
Because you wanna get petty over correcting someone on whether 7 teams is 1/3 league or 1/4 league, get a grip.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 août à 19 h 20
Sujet:
year 2 mark
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ArakinSkywalker</b></div><div>Man this is 3 seasons from now, a few of these guys will see a good amount of games in 22-23 and the rest will see some 23-24, i assume we have our usual veteran d depth like JJ for a league low playing 3rd pairing so there goes one of them already. Plus like i already mentioned 3 mil of space with whatever amount gets sent down when we add another player. If we can't develop 2 or 3 guys out of our system to play depth pieces then we are doing something wrong in drafting and developing.</div></div>
You got it man. Totally right.
Greer, Bowers, Kamenev, Jost, Kaut
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Armchair-GM
2 août à 19 h 17
Sujet:
next year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ArakinSkywalker</b></div><div>A top 2 dman sure gives you a better chance at winning the cup than not having him, any way you look at it toews makes us better. at what point in the lineup above do we not have good depth? even if line 4 doesn't hit we still have over 3 mil to add our usual center depth add at the deadline.
If you are relying on manson to be a long term core i think you're going to be setting yourself up for failure. I don't think he's as good as he played when we won the cup or as bad as he played last playoffs which means your core has a 33 year old average dman only getting slower in it. If byram has any health issues there goes the depth.
7 teams isn't even 1/4 of the league, and if toews is good enough for these other teams to mortgage even more money for him and gut their teams depth why would we just let him walk? Top 2 dmen don't just grow on trees.
I think the biggest take away from what you said is going into playoffs with the attitude of good enough, that's how you get bounced like we did this year cause we thought we were good enough. If you're not the best team you can be you're not going to win the cup.</div></div>
It’s like talking to a wall sometimes around here
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Armchair-GM
2 août à 19 h 9
Sujet:
year 2 mark
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ArakinSkywalker</b></div><div>Who are the 6? i count 3 in behrens, ritchie and olausson. Foudy is on contract 2, meyers is on contract 3 annunen will be on contract 2. Also it's not like im asking a bunch of 18 year olds to make a jump. Ritchie is 20 and will be the youngest, the rest of the guys are 22-24 range and if they're not going to start playing in the nhl why are we keeping them around. We also have just shy of 3 mil to add 2 veteran presence like i mentioned in the description so that covers the 2 that don't turn out to be full time nhlers. what else ya got?</div></div>
Entry level players. Who cares if they are 21 or 22. You’ve got all these guys with close to no NHL experience, not proven at all, slotting into full time NHL roles
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Armchair-GM
2 août à 18 h 56
Sujet:
DeSmith
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyManiac95</b></div><div>Why not? Colorado might still need another depth D other than JJ, and the dude's cheap</div></div>
800k to be injured and when healthy, fill up the penalty box lol. Hard pass. Bogo doesn’t give you something that a MacDermid or Hunt or Jack Johnson doesn’t already provide
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Armchair-GM
2 août à 18 h 15
Sujet:
year 2 mark
Brother, is it not a red flag you are relying on <strong>SIX</strong> ELC players to make this work? Chances are at least 2 of Foudy, Oluasson, Malinski, Behrens, Annunen don’t turn out to be full time NHLers
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Armchair-GM
2 août à 18 h 7
Sujet:
next year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ArakinSkywalker</b></div><div>I don't think the bigger picture is missed at all. i'd think the big picture is winning cups while we have the team to do so. No one is good forever so i think realisticly we have a good 5 years with the offense to win another cup. in the 6th year from now the forwards are over 33 and that pretty much means they will be starting to regress if they haven't already, so i'm not too worried about the 8th year on his contract.
As for your 2nd point, there are only 7 teams using the income tax calculator on this site where he would stand to make more money than colorado and they'd all have to give him the higher cap hit of 8.5 still to offset the extra year. Most of them are in the same position as we are where it's hard to bring in 8.5 mil and not gut depth somewhere else.</div></div>
Toews doesn’t make or break COLs cup winning chances in the next 2-3 years. <strong>Especially if signing him means less money to go around on signing quality depth players. </strong> A core of Byram-Makar Girard-Manson is good enough. Then you’ve got 7.5mil to add a high end top 6F piece or a quality middle 6F and a good third pairing D man. I want no part in paying Toews 7.5mil at age 34+ (for 4 more years).
7 teams is nearly 1/3 of the league. Any motivated team could easily make the cap space if they wanted.
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Armchair-GM
2 août à 15 h 59
Sujet:
next year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ArakinSkywalker</b></div><div>If he tests the waters in free agency then for sure he will get 8 but it's that 8th year that will be able to help us bring the AAV down. an 8x7.5 nets him more than 8.5x7 in free agency and i don't see too many teams going higher than that. I think we just have to hope that he wants to stay in colorado and extend the window for as long as possible. it's not like 7.5 is shortchanging him by any means.</div></div>
This is a prime example of getting so caught up in the details, that the bigger picture gets missed.
1) you consider it a prize of some sort having to pay Toews 7.5mil at age 38 in that extra 8th year of the deal?
2) you think him earning that additional 500k (about 1% on a 60 mil contract) by staying in COL matters when he could literally just sign as a FA in a state without income tax and earn that additional 4% he’d be losing to taxes in COL
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 août à 15 h 29
Sujet:
Family Reunion
Would we then have to refer to them as the Feet brothers then?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 août à 15 h 26
Sujet:
DeSmith
I’ll give you future considerations to not trade Bogo to COL
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 août à 15 h 13
Sujet:
next year
Seeing as Toews is about to hit 30, this next contract will be his last big one. Mark my words, he’ll comfortably net 60 pts alongside Makar and break the bank in FA
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 août à 22 h 24
Sujet:
Avs Team 24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xqb15a</b></div><div>I think you have Byram qb PP2 he has the best slap shot of the dmen and is every bit the passer Girard is, but it’s kinda moot imo because you have both of them on PP2, the big thing for me is you try to limit Makar’s PK minutes to just keep his minutes down. My two cents</div></div>
Makar doesn’t PK in my scenario.
PP1 should be getting the first 90 seconds, doesn’t really matter to slot Byram over Girard for whatever remaining 30 seconds are left. The difference is negligible given how little time PP2 gets
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 août à 22 h 22
Sujet:
Avs Team 24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JeffW</b></div><div>Okay but Manson has 3 yrs left and Girard has 4?
And toews is the guy running PP2, with Byram as the heir apparent...
But apples and oranges, I think they need big defensive dmen in their bottom 4, you think they need small skilled guys with 1 more year of contract remaining... let's part as friends</div></div>
This AGM is the 24-25 season..
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 août à 21 h 55
Sujet:
Avs Team 24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JeffW</b></div><div>You can't predict injuries, Girard broke his sternum in the playoffs, Manson played all 20..
Manson is the better fit for the team going forward in my opinion, who's going to PK?
Toews and JJ?
Byram and makar?
You keep Manson and he PKs and you don't waste a Byram makar on the PK...
We lost a big body with EJ leaving.. you don't want Byram and makar picking up that slack with their own injury problems</div></div>
It’s quite simple.
Makar QB PP1
Girard QB PP2
Toews-Byram PK1
Girard - whoever PK 2
To think you’d rather keep Manson for the 1 year remaining versus the multiple years of Girard is rather short sighted
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 août à 17 h 2
Sujet:
Avs Team 24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JeffW</b></div><div>Mansons physicality and positional fit for the team > Girards small frame and skill set</div></div>
Lol. I don’t disagree with you often, but we couldn’t be any further apart on this.
Girard doesn’t have the best track record health wise but Manson makes him look like an Ironman candidate with all those missed games and injuries. You think COLs D core is soft? Byram and Makar don’t shy away from playing physical. Heck, even Girards 67 hits in 76 games isn’t that bad
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 août à 16 h 58
Sujet:
How far
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tintin</b></div><div>Mittelstadt played ridiculously well down the stretch though, and while I don't think this team's C corps is a strength of theirs I'd bet Mitts could hold his own as a lower end 2C.
As for Vilardi, he's closer to a 1st liner than anything else and I honestly believe he's every bit as good as player as PLD. He's absolute dynamite.
Jets fleeced Kings in that trade.
<img class="for_img" src="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FzqBRjFX0AEVYJd.jpg:large" alt="FzqBRjFX0AEVYJd.jpg:large">
<img class="for_img" src="https://cdn.theathletic.com/app/uploads/2023/01/03132850/Screenshot-2023-04-03-at-1.02.56-PM-1536x964.png" alt="Screenshot-2023-04-03-at-1.02.56-PM-1536x964.png"></div></div>
Put away your fancy charts for a minute and come join me in the real world for a moment.
Prior to last season, Mittelstadt had 3 consecutive seasons where he failed to play more than half of a full regular NHL season. He’s also got zero playoff experience. Before last year he only had a career high pt total of 25. Far from a 2C cup contender resume.
Then Vilardi. Career high games of 63, career high points of 41. 21-22 season had 7 points and was demoted to AHL role. 7 career playoff games experience. Don’t care what the charts say, he doesn’t have a large enough sample size to support your notion that he’s a bonafide 1st liner on a cup contender. Every bit as good as PLD? Based on what evidence? Lol PLD has 3 60 point seasons, 2 50 point seasons has a handful of seasons where he was healthy and played 70+ games. Decent playoff numbers (based on a decent sample size of 35+ games)
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Armchair-GM
1 août à 16 h 31
Sujet:
Avs Team 24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JeffW</b></div><div>I like Manson, I'd rather move Sammy G</div></div>
I’d rather move Manson and keep Girard. Girards age and contract certainly > Manson
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 août à 16 h 15
Sujet:
extending the core and young ones coming up
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>kitkat_2001</b></div><div>When there's a will there's a way haha. Keeping Toews is 50/50 though. May or may not happen, but he's definitely not replaceable by Girard...whereas Gulyayev and Behrens are both cheaper options that can replace Girard's same abilities.</div></div>
Never said Girard replaces Toews but you’ve got 5.6mil to fill 5 more roster spots (about 5 players making 1 mil each). Keeping Girard over Toews frees up an additional 3 mill in cap space to use on signing better players than guys on near league minimum deals.
Neither Behrens nor Gulyayev have ever stepped foot on the ice at the NHL level. To say either fills Girards shoes ( who is an above average second pairing D man) is a huuuggggeee stretch
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 août à 16 h 11
Sujet:
How far
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tintin</b></div><div>Really guys?
Ekholm, Heiskanen, Montour, Vilardi, that goalie tandem and that 1st line?
This looks like a bonafide cup contender to me.</div></div>
D core and goaltending is this teams strength.
Vilardi 2RW on a cup contender? Really? Even Mittelstadt is unproven as a 2C in a deep playoff run playing against other top 2Cs
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 août à 15 h 48
Sujet:
How far
Wildcard team. With the available cap space you could easily upgrade Mittelstadt/Vilardi in the top 6F to put them into conference finals contention maybe
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 août à 15 h 44
Sujet:
extending the core and young ones coming up
- Shift Wood to 3LW.
- Colton will need to take a sizeable leap to be a true 2C.
- Look for Oluasson to be a factor by this time (maybe at 3LW and leave Wood at 4LW)
- Ranta probably returns from Sweden and finds a home on the 4th line too
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 août à 15 h 37
Sujet:
extending the core and young ones coming up
This just further strengthens my stance that COL cannot afford to extend/resign Toews. Undo the Toews signing and keep Girard and you save yourself nearly 3mil in cap space (which you need by the looks of it).
COL fans are too spoiled. Do we all honestly think we could potentially fit 3 #1D men (Makar, Toews, Byram) on the same roster in the cap era? Lol
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 août à 13 h 30
Sujet:
Projected starting roster
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JeffW</b></div><div>So your saying there's a chance</div></div>
I walked into that one…
Nonetheless, be prepared for the Hunt/J Johnson era to begin at #6/7 D
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Armchair-GM
1 août à 13 h 27
Sujet:
Projected starting roster
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JeffW</b></div><div>Maybe but maybe nobody else wants to take a chance on his injury troubles</div></div>
I think that’s some wishful thinking lol.
IF he went on waivers, I would say the odds of him slipping to COL would be less than 20%
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Armchair-GM
1 août à 13 h 21
Sujet:
Projected starting roster
I’d flip Foudy and LOC. Foudy needs skill players to be effective. LOCs skill set shines through just fine in a 4th line role
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