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trade for Jason robertson

Créé par: jedihonesy
Équipe: 2022-23 Red Wings de Detroit
Date de création initiale: 29 sept. 2022
Publié: 29 sept. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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RFAANSCAP HIT
810 000 000 $
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DET
  1. Robertson, Jason [Droits de RFA]
DAL
  1. Berggren, Jonatan
  2. Vrána, Jakub
  3. Zadina, Filip
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (DET)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (DET)
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29 sept. 2022 à 17 h 55
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Stars decline
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29 sept. 2022 à 18 h 1
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Doesn't make a lot of sense for Detroit either. How about Robertson to Vancouver trade.
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29 sept. 2022 à 18 h 6
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29 sept. 2022 à 18 h 25
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Stars decline


No they don't.
29 sept. 2022 à 18 h 30
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Thank you Pavelski
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No they don't.


Yes they do

Vrana is decent, but we have three Berggren coming already, and Zadina barely fits the lineup. And with Robo in DET, it wouldn't surprise me if the picks were low too.

Fat L for Stars.
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29 sept. 2022 à 19 h 7
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Quoting: Datsyukian
No they don't.


Robertson is a top 5 winger in the game. They wouldn’t even entertain the trade without Raymond being included
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29 sept. 2022 à 19 h 43
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Wings decline
29 sept. 2022 à 19 h 52
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Quoting: Spaceman
Wings decline


Are you sure?

Zadina = Busy
Bergrenn is so-so
2023 1st won't be that high if Robertson is moved to Detroit. Top 16 pick which isn't great.
29 sept. 2022 à 20 h 5
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Are you sure?

Zadina = Busy
Bergrenn is so-so
2023 1st won't be that high if Robertson is moved to Detroit. Top 16 pick which isn't great.


Yea. I'm sure
29 sept. 2022 à 22 h 23
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Yea. I'm sure


If you take the trade, you would be one piece away from contending. If you consider Kasper asa future 1C, then you are set to win cup in a few years
29 sept. 2022 à 22 h 47
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Quoting: BoudreauFan
If you take the trade, you would be one piece away from contending. If you consider Kasper asa future 1C, then you are set to win cup in a few years


Wrong.. Our D is still a mess & last i checked Robertson doesn't play defense he's a winger .. Is he 50 goal winger prob not. 40 sure .. .. He wouldn't fix the Wings & We'd give up way too much from our depth to be worse off... One player (unless a CENTER & A MCDAVID/draisatl/ young MALKIN TYPE) ISNT worth it...

Plus
Vrana stays healthy he scores 35-40 he's better than ok (look at the analytics pts per 60 & much more)
Zadina is gonna break out to 15-20 goal year with confidence back
Berrgren no-one knows but has nice playmaking skills
Draft picks could be too valuable too

So yea Wings REJECT IT EASY.. If Robertson was a CENTER or they offered heiskanen then we're talking a foundation piece.. Wingers no matter how skilled are the easiest to replace or find sorry..
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29 sept. 2022 à 23 h 6
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Quoting: Mike
Wrong.. Our D is still a mess & last i checked Robertson doesn't play defense he's a winger .. Is he 50 goal winger prob not. 40 sure .. .. He wouldn't fix the Wings & We'd give up way too much from our depth to be worse off... One player (unless a CENTER & A MCDAVID/draisatl/ young MALKIN TYPE) ISNT worth it...

Plus
Vrana stays healthy he scores 35-40 he's better than ok (look at the analytics pts per 60 & much more)
Zadina is gonna break out to 15-20 goal year with confidence back
Berrgren no-one knows but has nice playmaking skills
Draft picks could be too valuable too

So yea Wings REJECT IT EASY.. If Robertson was a CENTER or they offered heiskanen then we're talking a foundation piece.. Wingers no matter how skilled are the easiest to replace or find sorry..


You have a point
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30 sept. 2022 à 11 h 14
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Quoting: Datsyukian
LOL


its the truth, the stars would laugh at the OP trade proposal.
30 sept. 2022 à 11 h 48
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Quoting: Datsyukian
Whatever you say big boy.


way to support your claim with any sort of evidence, I'm sure people will wholeheartedly agree with you now that you've given such groudbreaking opinions such as "incorrect" and "whatever you say big boy". I swear only Red Wings fans would see a proposal with no top prospects and only an alright top 6 option as a rostered player and think it's more valuable to the team than a 23 year old 40 goal scorer.
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30 sept. 2022 à 12 h 4
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Quoting: NoVaSpartan
way to support your claim with any sort of evidence, I'm sure people will wholeheartedly agree with you now that you've given such groudbreaking opinions such as "incorrect" and "whatever you say big boy". I swear only Red Wings fans would see a proposal with no top prospects and only an alright top 6 option as a rostered player and think it's more valuable to the team than a 23 year old 40 goal scorer.


And moreover, only Red Wings fans would see an ACGM that makes a fair-value offer for a middling roster player and get on the OP's *ss for not selling the entire farm.
30 sept. 2022 à 12 h 6
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Quoting: NoVaSpartan
way to support your claim with any sort of evidence, I'm sure people will wholeheartedly agree with you now that you've given such groudbreaking opinions such as "incorrect" and "whatever you say big boy". I swear only Red Wings fans would see a proposal with no top prospects and only an alright top 6 option as a rostered player and think it's more valuable to the team than a 23 year old 40 goal scorer.


The responses made it clear that I'd be arguing with someone(s) who clearly don't understand how value works in the NHL. Not worth my time.

Mike's explanation above is fairly decent. You can reference that.
30 sept. 2022 à 13 h 16
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Quoting: BoudreauFan
If you take the trade, you would be one piece away from contending. If you consider Kasper asa future 1C, then you are set to win cup in a few years


I don't think Kasper will be a true #1C, Between him and Larkin we'll have two extremely good #2C's
30 sept. 2022 à 13 h 17
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If you take the trade, you would be one piece away from contending. If you consider Kasper asa future 1C, then you are set to win cup in a few years


Zadina = Busy
What does that even mean?
30 sept. 2022 à 17 h 38
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Quoting: Spaceman
Zadina = Busy
What does that even mean?


bust
30 sept. 2022 à 17 h 52
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Quoting: jedihonesy
bust


Except he's not a bust. He's now signed onto a 3 year contract at an extremely good cap hit. He'll never be that 40 goal guy scouts thought he would but being a 20 goal guy is not far away for him. At less than 2 mill per. His contract is very good value. Not much interest in trading him when he's on that deal.

Zadina under a new coach is needed before the wings throw in the towel on him. He's looking quite good in camp and preseason thus far. Some players just take a little longer.
 
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