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10 mai 2022 à 16 h 13
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10 mai 2022 à 16 h 14
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But in that case, that the 13th team won, moving up to 3rd, is the 2nd draw for 1st overall, 2nd overall or 4th overall? That is what I'm curious about.


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But in that case, that the 13th team won, moving up to 3rd, is the 2nd draw for 1st overall, 2nd overall or 4th overall? That is what I'm curious about.


I'm relatively certain that the first draw is for 1OA, or moving up ten spots, the 2nd draw is for 2OA or moving up 10 spots. If 12th won the 1st draw and moved up to 2OA, the 2nd draw is still technically for 2OA, but 12th gets priority on that pick due to winning the 1st draw, making the draw for 3OA in reality. So if 13th won the 1st draw and moved up to 3rd, and then 12th won the 2nd draw, 12th would move up to 2nd, 13th would pick 3rd and the Coyotes would pick 4th. I'd assume that MTL will be removed from the lottery if 12th or lower wins the 1st draw since they would be locked into 1OA.
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10 mai 2022 à 16 h 16
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Quoting: J2W
I'm relatively certain that the first draw is for 1OA, or moving up ten spots, the 2nd draw is for 2OA or moving up 10 spots. If 12th won the 1st draw and moved up to 2OA, the 2nd draw is still technically for 2OA, but 12th gets priority on that pick due to winning the 1st draw, making the draw for 3OA in reality. So if 13th won the 1st draw and moved up to 3rd, and then 12th won the 2nd draw, 12th would move up to 2nd, 13th would pick 3rd and the Coyotes would pick 4th. I'd assume that MTL will be removed from the lottery if 12th or lower wins the 1st draw since they would be locked into 1OA.


Thank you for this. I understand the system completely now, I think.
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10 mai 2022 à 16 h 22
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DAVID JIRICEK IS MY FAV PROSPECT IN THIS DRAFT
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10 mai 2022 à 16 h 27
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Quoting: J2W
I'm relatively certain that the first draw is for 1OA, or moving up ten spots, the 2nd draw is for 2OA or moving up 10 spots. If 12th won the 1st draw and moved up to 2OA, the 2nd draw is still technically for 2OA, but 12th gets priority on that pick due to winning the 1st draw, making the draw for 3OA in reality. So if 13th won the 1st draw and moved up to 3rd, and then 12th won the 2nd draw, 12th would move up to 2nd, 13th would pick 3rd and the Coyotes would pick 4th. I'd assume that MTL will be removed from the lottery if 12th or lower wins the 1st draw since they would be locked into 1OA.


I could be dead wrong but I was under the impression if say NYI won the first lottery (3rd overall) then the second lottery is for 1st overall with MTL, ARI, SEA, PHI, NJD, CHI, OTT, DET, BUF, ANA, and SJS being involved.

So if SJS won it:
SJS
MTL
NYI
ARI
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10 mai 2022 à 16 h 29
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I could be dead wrong but I was under the impression if say NYI won the first lottery (3rd overall) then the second lottery is for 1st overall with MTL, ARI, SEA, PHI, NJD, CHI, OTT, DET, BUF, ANA, and SJS being involved.

So if SJS won it:
SJS
MTL
NYI
ARI


This is confusing to the point that I kind of want the old system back. Or a new concept all together.
10 mai 2022 à 16 h 31
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Quoting: Saskleaf
If the 13th team won it, and picked 3rd, the lottery would be on the 4th pick, and if Montreal or arizona won it, they would stay at 1 or 2, correct?


Nope, the 2nd lottery would be for 2 if the 1st lottery ended up with 13 to 3
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10 mai 2022 à 16 h 33
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I could be dead wrong but I was under the impression if say NYI won the first lottery (3rd overall) then the second lottery is for 1st overall with MTL, ARI, SEA, PHI, NJD, CHI, OTT, DET, BUF, ANA, and SJS being involved.

So if SJS won it:
SJS
MTL
NYI
ARI


A sportsnet article states MTL has a 25.5% shot at 1OA, which is their 18.5% chance to win the 1st lottery, plus the odds of 12th-16th place, so I'm working off of that and assuming the 2nd lottery is for 2nd overall. Plus the tweet you shared early says that the league confirmed Columbus moving up to 2nd makes the 2nd lottery for 3rd overall at best.
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10 mai 2022 à 16 h 33
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Since there seems to be confusion
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10 mai 2022 à 16 h 34
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Nope, the 2nd lottery would be for 2 if the 1st lottery ended up with 13 to 3


Ok, that makes sense.
10 mai 2022 à 16 h 35
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DAVID JIRICEK IS MY FAV PROSPECT IN THIS DRAFT


That’s Mateychuk for me probably
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10 mai 2022 à 16 h 35
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Since there seems to be confusion


But this is only if Columbus won the 2nd lottery, correct? Otherwise the second lottery is for second, no matter who won the first one?
10 mai 2022 à 16 h 35
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But this is only if Columbus won the 2nd lottery, correct? Otherwise the second lottery is for second, no matter who won the first one?


Yes, the 2nd lottery is always for 2nd unless the 1st lottery is 12 moves up to 2
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10 mai 2022 à 16 h 38
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But this is only if Columbus won the 2nd lottery, correct? Otherwise the second lottery is for second, no matter who won the first one?


Yes, 2nd lottery is for 2nd (or moving up 10 spots if it's a team that can't jump to 2nd), but Columbus would have priority on the pick since they won the 1st lottery, meaning they push the 2nd overall winner to 3rd overall if they win the 1st lottery.
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10 mai 2022 à 16 h 42
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That’s Mateychuk for me probably


He’s going to be as good as Seider or Seth Jones so major W for whoever drafts Jiricek
10 mai 2022 à 16 h 45
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10 mai 2022 à 17 h 31
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Modifié 10 mai 2022 à 19 h 51
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JustABoss Gmonwy capsfan2121


He’s the same one who thinks Yamamoto>Svech, he cherry picks his stats.

If the Oilers players would be as good as he thinks they’re they wouldn’t be tied with the Kings and would’ve won the cup last year.

He at least does his research, I’ll give him that. And backs up his points pretty well.
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10 mai 2022 à 17 h 54
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He’s the same one who thinks Yamamoto>Svech, he cherry picks his stats.

If the Oilers players would be as good as he thinks they’re they wouldn’t be tied with the Kings and would’ve won the cup last year.

He at least does his research, I’ll give him that. And backs up his points.


He's definitely JFresh
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10 mai 2022 à 18 h 2
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Habs get the 2nd pick, per source
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10 mai 2022 à 18 h 22
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Habs get the 2nd pick, per source


Source: trust me bro
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10 mai 2022 à 18 h 23
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Any lottery predictions?

I'll say NJ wins 1st, Kraken gets 2nd.
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10 mai 2022 à 18 h 31
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Any lottery predictions?

I'll say NJ wins 1st, Kraken gets 2nd.


My feeling: Kraken 1st, Canadiens 2nd
My useless 100 simulations: Coyotes 1st, Sharks 2nd
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10 mai 2022 à 18 h 34
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With the 2nd overall pick, the Montreal Canadiens select Juraj Skafkovsky
10 mai 2022 à 18 h 35
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With the 2nd overall pick, the Montreal Canadiens select Juraj Skafkovsky


Would be a dumb move tbh.
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10 mai 2022 à 18 h 38
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Lou lamoriello looks like a guy who’s about to trade his 1st rd pick for Adam Henrique
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