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23 avr. à 12 h 18
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Quoting: Alfie11
If you take the time to think things through a bit before immediately jumping to calling her an idiot, you might actually understand why she did it.


Quoting: A_Habs_fan
The question actually makes perfect sense, the way she formulated it is fine, Maroon calls Simmonds soft, she wants a reply from him to Maroon, that’s fine, that’s literally what journalism is, stirring pots and following up on stuff that was said/reported


Let's hear it for nuance and context. In a vacuum what she said was dumb. But it wasn't said in a vacuum.

She does need to work on her delivery a bit tho, she kinda sounds like she's listened to way too much Pierre McGuire with the way she talks.

Also how good is this first round Lightning v Leafs shaping up to be. Teams don't like each other, Simmonds and Maroon getting chippy. Gonna be great. Bolts in 7 ;-)
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Break the streak and hit 60 lez go
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Just had a debate with a Sens fan who told me the Boucher pick made sense and it doesn’t matter if we drop 2 spots and pick a low ceiling guy because we won’t be able to re-sign everyone and we shouldn’t draft another high offensive ceiling player who’s going to cost a lot. What kind of thinking is this?

You always pick the best player there is. If you’re loaded at one position , then you do the Jones for Johansen or Hall for Larsson type of trade . And if you have too many players that are great, you package them for better players.


Also I did the thing and it makes a lot of sense. Let’s say you draft a high offensive ceiling player in the 22 draft. He plays 1 year in college or overseas. Then 3 years of ELC . Now you bridge him for 2-3 years while you compete . That’s 7 years from now where a guy like Batherson will be 29 and likely won’t be given a longterm contract that runs to his late 30s and you can afford your 2022 1st longterm

If you don’t think there’s a track record of that, look at what Tampa did to Cirelli, Sergachev and Cernak while Stamkos, Kucherov , Point, Vasi and McDonagh were signed longterm .
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Quoting: csick
Just had a debate with a Sens fan who told me the Boucher pick made sense and it doesn’t matter if we drop 2 spots and pick a low ceiling guy because we won’t be able to re-sign everyone and we shouldn’t draft another high offensive ceiling player who’s going to cost a lot. What kind of thinking is this?

You always pick the best player there is. If you’re loaded at one position , then you do the Jones for Johansen or Hall for Larsson type of trade . And if you have too many players that are great, you package them for better players.


Also I did the thing and it makes a lot of sense. Let’s say you draft a high offensive ceiling player in the 22 draft. He plays 1 year in college or overseas. Then 3 years of ELC . Now you bridge him for 2-3 years while you compete . That’s 7 years from now where a guy like Batherson will be 29 and likely won’t be given a longterm contract that runs to his late 30s and you can afford your 2022 1st longterm

If you don’t think there’s a track record of that, look at what Tampa did to Cirelli, Sergachev and Cernak while Stamkos, Kucherov , Point, Vasi and McDonagh were signed longterm .


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Quoting: csick
Just had a debate with a Sens fan who told me the Boucher pick made sense and it doesn’t matter if we drop 2 spots and pick a low ceiling guy because we won’t be able to re-sign everyone and we shouldn’t draft another high offensive ceiling player who’s going to cost a lot. What kind of thinking is this?

You always pick the best player there is. If you’re loaded at one position , then you do the Jones for Johansen or Hall for Larsson type of trade . And if you have too many players that are great, you package them for better players.


Also I did the thing and it makes a lot of sense. Let’s say you draft a high offensive ceiling player in the 22 draft. He plays 1 year in college or overseas. Then 3 years of ELC . Now you bridge him for 2-3 years while you compete . That’s 7 years from now where a guy like Batherson will be 29 and likely won’t be given a longterm contract that runs to his late 30s and you can afford your 2022 1st longterm

If you don’t think there’s a track record of that, look at what Tampa did to Cirelli, Sergachev and Cernak while Stamkos, Kucherov , Point, Vasi and McDonagh were signed longterm .


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23 avr. à 13 h 13
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Fun fact: Devils have not scored a powerplay goal since Jack Hughes has gotten injured. They are 0/30 in that span and have allowed more shorthanded goals than PP goals.
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23 avr. à 13 h 14
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Quoting: csick
Just had a debate with a Sens fan who told me the Boucher pick made sense and it doesn’t matter if we drop 2 spots and pick a low ceiling guy because we won’t be able to re-sign everyone and we shouldn’t draft another high offensive ceiling player who’s going to cost a lot. What kind of thinking is this?

You always pick the best player there is. If you’re loaded at one position , then you do the Jones for Johansen or Hall for Larsson type of trade . And if you have too many players that are great, you package them for better players.


Also I did the thing and it makes a lot of sense. Let’s say you draft a high offensive ceiling player in the 22 draft. He plays 1 year in college or overseas. Then 3 years of ELC . Now you bridge him for 2-3 years while you compete . That’s 7 years from now where a guy like Batherson will be 29 and likely won’t be given a longterm contract that runs to his late 30s and you can afford your 2022 1st longterm

If you don’t think there’s a track record of that, look at what Tampa did to Cirelli, Sergachev and Cernak while Stamkos, Kucherov , Point, Vasi and McDonagh were signed longterm .


Lmao

Logic is the same as picking Comeau over McDavid because the former is more affordable.
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23 avr. à 13 h 15
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Quoting: Devil
Fun fact: Devils have not scored a powerplay goal since Jack Hughes has gotten injured. They are 0/30 in that span and have allowed more shorthanded goals than PP goals.


I don't think that's a fun fact.

That's almost pathetic fact.
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23 avr. à 13 h 22
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Quoting: csick
Just had a debate with a Sens fan who told me the Boucher pick made sense and it doesn’t matter if we drop 2 spots and pick a low ceiling guy because we won’t be able to re-sign everyone and we shouldn’t draft another high offensive ceiling player who’s going to cost a lot. What kind of thinking is this?

You always pick the best player there is. If you’re loaded at one position , then you do the Jones for Johansen or Hall for Larsson type of trade . And if you have too many players that are great, you package them for better players.


Also I did the thing and it makes a lot of sense. Let’s say you draft a high offensive ceiling player in the 22 draft. He plays 1 year in college or overseas. Then 3 years of ELC . Now you bridge him for 2-3 years while you compete . That’s 7 years from now where a guy like Batherson will be 29 and likely won’t be given a longterm contract that runs to his late 30s and you can afford your 2022 1st longterm

If you don’t think there’s a track record of that, look at what Tampa did to Cirelli, Sergachev and Cernak while Stamkos, Kucherov , Point, Vasi and McDonagh were signed longterm .


Thats like people who would justify picking Michael Dal Colle or Jake Virtanen over Willam Nylander or Nikolaj Ehlers
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23 avr. à 13 h 24
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Quoting: csick
Just had a debate with a Sens fan who told me the Boucher pick made sense and it doesn’t matter if we drop 2 spots and pick a low ceiling guy because we won’t be able to re-sign everyone and we shouldn’t draft another high offensive ceiling player who’s going to cost a lot. What kind of thinking is this?

You always pick the best player there is. If you’re loaded at one position , then you do the Jones for Johansen or Hall for Larsson type of trade . And if you have too many players that are great, you package them for better players.


Also I did the thing and it makes a lot of sense. Let’s say you draft a high offensive ceiling player in the 22 draft. He plays 1 year in college or overseas. Then 3 years of ELC . Now you bridge him for 2-3 years while you compete . That’s 7 years from now where a guy like Batherson will be 29 and likely won’t be given a longterm contract that runs to his late 30s and you can afford your 2022 1st longterm

If you don’t think there’s a track record of that, look at what Tampa did to Cirelli, Sergachev and Cernak while Stamkos, Kucherov , Point, Vasi and McDonagh were signed longterm .


I think you always should go BPA to a certain extent. If the Devils win the lottery, should they take Wright? A better way to phrase it is take the player that will have the most value to the team
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Quoting: justaBoss
I don't think that's a fun fact.

That's almost pathetic fact.


They're tanking so im fine with it
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23 avr. à 13 h 25
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They're tanking so im fine with it


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23 avr. à 13 h 28
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Quoting: justaBoss
Savoie szn


I really want Detroit, San Jose and Buffalo to win. I just know ottawa won’t lose another game to finish the year .
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I really want Detroit, San Jose and Buffalo to win. I just know ottawa won’t lose another game to finish the year .


I really don't think Sens is passing those three anymore.
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23 avr. à 13 h 31
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Quoting: csick
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Best available, always. You never know what can happen with injuries, trades, whatever. So even if you are drafting when you already have that position filled, you figure it out later. IMO

Wonder if it was this guy 😂





He seems to still have a hard on for him
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23 avr. à 14 h 0
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Quoting: Devil
Fun fact: Devils have not scored a powerplay goal since Jack Hughes has gotten injured. They are 0/30 in that span and have allowed more shorthanded goals than PP goals.


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I don't think that's a fun fact.

That's almost pathetic fact.


And I jinxed it
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23 avr. à 14 h 4
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**** Detroit is going to lose. At least Buffalo is winning
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**** Detroit is going to lose. At least Buffalo is winning


Islanders are pathetic

Chara gets zero help every game
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23 avr. à 14 h 9
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Is Buffalo a playoff team next season?
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I still think this team is 1 and done until proven otherwise. No goals in 2 periods on a guy with a stat line of 3-10, 3.88, 882. Good lord
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Is Buffalo a playoff team next season?


If they can find a 1A goaltender, a good defensive partner for Power and upgrade 1 forward in the top 9 yes. They have a good shot. They have cap space too so it’s pretty good
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I still think this team is 1 and done until proven otherwise. No goals in 2 periods on a guy with a stat line of 3-10, 3.88, 882. Good lord


Jon Gillies is playing like prime Martin Brodeur
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Jon Gillies is playing like prime Martin Brodeur


Devils need corey Crawford
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Is Buffalo a playoff team next season?


They need a 1C…maybe a guy like Jack Eichel


I like the direction the Sabres are heading in. They are still two years away from playoffs imo.
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23 avr. à 14 h 18
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If they can find a 1A goaltender, a good defensive partner for Power and upgrade 1 forward in the top 9 yes. They have a good shot. They have cap space too so it’s pretty good

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They need a 1C…maybe a guy like Jack Eichel


I like the direction the Sabres are heading in. They are still two years away from playoffs imo.


I'm getting a little worried down here in Tampa. Can only hold Ottawa and Buffalo back for so long. One of the Atlantic stalwarts is eventually going to miss the playoffs.
Thinking it might be Boston first.
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