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Équipe: 2021-22 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 14 mars 2022
Publié: 14 mars 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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“Not available” is a totally suitable answer

Looking for young defensive RD who can move puck reasonably well out of d-zone.

Would be off-season deal.

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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
3081 500 000 $84 864 735 $0 $4 345 000 $-3 364 735 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
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7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
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UFA - 6
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825 000 $825 000 $
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UFA - 2
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
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975 000 $975 000 $
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RFA - 2
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
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UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
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UFA - 1
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
C, AG
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925 000 $925 000 $
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
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800 000 $800 000 $
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3 166 667 $3 166 667 $
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9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
DD
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850 833 $850 833 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
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RFA - 3
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1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
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9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
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750 000 $750 000 $
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
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4 166 666 $4 166 666 $
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750 000 $750 000 $
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800 000 $800 000 $
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725 000 $725 000 $
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2 950 000 $2 950 000 $
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725 000 $725 000 $
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
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733 333 $733 333 $
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
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866 667 $866 667 $
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2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
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4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
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2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
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1 825 000 $1 825 000 $
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912 500 $912 500 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
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14 mars 2022 à 9 h 56
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nashville wont move fabro or carrier, whitecloud is depth for vegas and i dont see them moving him, bear is probably not going because of the canes injuries, i would say regula, cernak, and barron are the best to go for. for cernak i would give up a 2nd maybe.
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14 mars 2022 à 9 h 59
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Quoting: goknightsgo
nashville wont move fabro or carrier, whitecloud is depth for vegas and i dont see them moving him, bear is probably not going because of the canes injuries, i would say regula, cernak, and barron are the best to go for. for cernak i would give up a 2nd maybe.

Whitecloud signed a 6-year deal so he’s not being moved
14 mars 2022 à 10 h 0
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Quoting: JeffSkinnerFan53
Whitecloud signed a 6-year deal so he’s not being moved


ya.
14 mars 2022 à 10 h 1
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Bear isn’t really a defensive RD… I wouldn’t want him if I was you. A Cernak trade could be interesting.. maybe include Severson going over 50% retained, and maybe a little more. Could happen at the deadline so they can go for two cups with him if he doesn’t resign.
14 mars 2022 à 10 h 4
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Quoting: Nhl_oilers
Bear isn’t really a defensive RD… I wouldn’t want him if I was you. A Cernak trade could be interesting.. maybe include Severson going over 50% retained, and maybe a little more. Could happen at the deadline so they can go for two cups with him if he doesn’t resign.


Wait, trade Severson+ for Cernak? Do you mean Cernak+ for Severson?
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14 mars 2022 à 10 h 6
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Quoting: JeffSkinnerFan53
Whitecloud signed a 6-year deal so he’s not being moved


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ya.





I feel like they are going to have to move someone from that blueline. And their aren’t many options for guys that are moveable and would save cap.
14 mars 2022 à 10 h 7
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Wait, trade Severson+ for Cernak? Do you mean Cernak+ for Severson?



Oh yah haha. Probably Cernak plus for Severson. I spelled that wrong.. my bad. Tampa fans may disagree, but I think getting Severson at the deadline at 50% retained, is very good for them. Even if they have to add more on top of Cernak.
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14 mars 2022 à 10 h 10
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Preds are more likely to move Myers than Carrier or Fabbro. But if you want cost estimates, it won't be too cheap. Management loves Fabbro and he has finally stepped it up this year. Top pairing 23yo RD making $2.4M for the next two years would want an A prospect and high pick. Carrier has turned into a solid 2nd pairing RD that is under contract for ~$700k for this year and next. For a team at the cap that could be worth a lot, easily a 1st+.
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14 mars 2022 à 10 h 12
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only way that avs are moving barron its for an impact player, realistically 1 for 1 the value isnt there in NJD unless they build a trade for Bratt wiht Barron in it
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14 mars 2022 à 10 h 13
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Cernak isn't available. Young top 4 shutdown RHD with physicality don't grow on trees. Bolts have no one to replace him in his role.
14 mars 2022 à 10 h 24
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Cernak isn't available. Young top 4 shutdown RHD with physicality don't grow on trees. Bolts have no one to replace him in his role.


cernak would be avaible for the right price. if your a bolts fan your just being biased to your team. if your not please look into the mistakes gm's have made. the bolts gm could move cernak. it isnt like they say f off every time a team calls about him. just dont assume someone isnt avaible. stuff happens.
14 mars 2022 à 10 h 26
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only way that avs are moving barron its for an impact player, realistically 1 for 1 the value isnt there in NJD unless they build a trade for Bratt wiht Barron in it


barron could go for a 2nd. he is a good dman but the price on him wouldnt be that high. maybe a 2nd+foote
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barron could go for a 2nd. he is a good dman but the price on him wouldnt be that high. maybe a 2nd+foote


barron will not go for a 2nd, come on man.
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barron could go for a 2nd. he is a good dman but the price on him wouldnt be that high. maybe a 2nd+foote


Barron for Bratt? I mean, golly….

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Preds are more likely to move Myers than Carrier or Fabbro. But if you want cost estimates, it won't be too cheap. Management loves Fabbro and he has finally stepped it up this year. Top pairing 23yo RD making $2.4M for the next two years would want an A prospect and high pick. Carrier has turned into a solid 2nd pairing RD that is under contract for ~$700k for this year and next. For a team at the cap that could be worth a lot, easily a 1st+.


That sounds reasonable. Fabbro for pick/prospect is probably what we’d be looking for. Any prospect not named Holtz, Hughes or Gritsyuk wound probably be on the table (and probably not Daws or Schmid since we are thin in net).
14 mars 2022 à 10 h 52
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Quoting: goknightsgo
cernak would be avaible for the right price. if your a bolts fan your just being biased to your team. if your not please look into the mistakes gm's have made. the bolts gm could move cernak. it isnt like they say f off every time a team calls about him. just dont assume someone isnt avaible. stuff happens.


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Tampa is trying to win now. They have won two cups with Cernak as their top RHD, unless you're upgrading Cernak in his role it doesn't make sense. Cernak is proven and Tampa's only actual top 4 RHD, what reason would they have for moving him out? In reference of the two suggested valuations of Cernak (2nd, or Cernak+ for Severson) neither make sense for Tampa. A 2nd is a gross underpayment and does nothing for Tampa who are trying to win, and Severson isn't a suitable replacement for Cernak.

This ACGM is trying to add a "defensive RD who can move puck reasonably well out of d-zone", implying the Devils are missing that type of player, which is what Tampa would need back in any trade where they move out Cernak. So in this context Cernak isn't available.
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14 mars 2022 à 11 h 2
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Bear, I'd imagine you're looking at someone like Siegenthaller + roster pieces. Yes, big price, but the Canes have no need to trade their current 1RD. I know this is a price NJD walks away from, but there's no real reason for the team with the best points percentage in the league to move on from a defenseman on their top pairing.
14 mars 2022 à 11 h 13
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Cernak isnt going anywhere. hes our best RHD and will be cheap to resign. 0 chance moves him any time soon but if your looking for his value, its somewhere around a mid to high 1st + a high B prospect or a top prospect and a couple of 2nd-3rd round picks
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14 mars 2022 à 11 h 15
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Oh yah haha. Probably Cernak plus for Severson. I spelled that wrong.. my bad. Tampa fans may disagree, but I think getting Severson at the deadline at 50% retained, is very good for them. Even if they have to add more on top of Cernak.


Been beating the Severson and Johnsson both at 50% for Serg drum. Saves them cap space for next year and, if you're into analytics, is an upgrade over Serg and any of their bottom-6 players
14 mars 2022 à 11 h 17
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For Vegas I'd look at Hague rather than Whitecloud. Pending RFA due a big raise and they don't have the space for it, imo.
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14 mars 2022 à 11 h 21
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Quoting: JeffSkinnerFan53
Whitecloud signed a 6-year deal so he’s not being moved


Nate Schmidt would like a word, lol.
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14 mars 2022 à 11 h 30
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How about the other NSH RHD, philippe myers?
14 mars 2022 à 11 h 52
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Quoting: HeadHighSauce
Been beating the Severson and Johnsson both at 50% for Serg drum. Saves them cap space for next year and, if you're into analytics, is an upgrade over Serg and any of their bottom-6 players


It is, but Sergachev has more value, and potential. Don’t see them trading him before they trade McDonagh. I could see Cernak though, only if Severson is going the other way.
14 mars 2022 à 12 h 6
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Bear for Johnsson in the off-season?

I don’t see the Canes trading a roster D before the playoffs:
14 mars 2022 à 12 h 32
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It is, but Sergachev has more value, and potential. Don’t see them trading him before they trade McDonagh. I could see Cernak though, only if Severson is going the other way.


No, for sure. It would take forward-thinking and a "win now at all costs" mindset. So wouldn't happen in the NHL lol
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14 mars 2022 à 12 h 42
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Bear, I'd imagine you're looking at someone like Siegenthaller + roster pieces. Yes, big price, but the Canes have no need to trade their current 1RD. I know this is a price NJD walks away from, but there's no real reason for the team with the best points percentage in the league to move on from a defenseman on their top pairing.

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Siegenthaler has the highest defensive GAR in NHL and has all season. To put it another way, Siegenthaler >>> Bear.

The reason I included Bear was I had seen that Canes may be trying to add a d-man at deadline, which could push Bear out of lineup (6th in TOI now).
 
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