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Créé par: MTLaveragefan

Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal

Date de création initiale: 31 janv. 2022

Publié: 31 janv. 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

NYR, DET, SJS and BOS trades, ignore the others...

Caufield in the AHL for another 2 years.

A lot of trades are open to counters - I just think those players are on their way out.

Kent Hugues has mentionned that he wants to bring character and leadership to the room to surround the kids. Got some experienced Dman on the RD to support the new LHD prospect.

New coach - Patrick Roy - get them to play with a bit of pride.

Also, getting an actual checking line with guys with a lot of heart.

It's gonna be a team that plays a cycle game with heavy forecheck.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

LISTE DE RÉSERVE	ANS	CAP HIT
Farrell, Sean	3	850 000 $
Dobes, Jakub	2	850 000 $
Harris, Jordan	2	850 000 $

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Kravtsov, Vitali	2	1 000 000 $
Lehkonen, Artturi	2	2 800 000 $
Pezzetta, Michael	2	800 000 $
Pitlick, Rem	2	1 200 000 $
Primeau, Cayden	2	800 000 $
Romanov, Alexander	4	2 800 000 $
Montembeault, Samuel	2	850 000 $
Brook, Josh	2	850 000 $
Schueneman, Corey	2	850 000 $
Teasdale, Joël	2	850 000 $
Vejdemo, Lukas	2	850 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Deslauriers, Nicolas	2	1 100 000 $
Perreault, Mathieu	1	850 000 $
Thompson, Nate	1	750 000 $
Schultz, Justin	3	4 000 000 $

Transactions

MTL

Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (MTL)

ARI

Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (CAR)

MTL

Kravtsov, Vitali [Droits de RFA]
Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (NYR)

NYR

Chariot

MTL

Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (DET)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (WSH)

Détails additionnels:

Great veteran for the kids.

those 2nd round picks are less likely to bring what Petry will.

DET

Petry, Jeff

Détails additionnels:

Happy wife =happy life. He'll be back in the US

This season is an outlier for Petry who had four 40+pts season in a row before that : https://www.nhl.com/player/jeff-petry-8473507

MTL

Vlasic, Marc-Édouard
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (SJS)

Détails additionnels:

Lottery protected

SJS

Armia, Joel
Byron, Paul
Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (DET)

Détails additionnels:

3 years of Armia
1 year of Byron

both of them are better than Vlasic, and for the same cap you get decent top9 players who are

MTL

Swayman, Jeremy
Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (BOS)

BOS

Dvorak, Christian

MTL

Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (EDM)

Détails additionnels:

at TD

EDM

Allen, Jake

MTL

Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (NSH)

NSH

Drouin, Jonathan (2 300 000 $ retained)

MTL

Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (LAK)

Détails additionnels:

ANY TEAM looking for a PP specialist

LAK

Hoffman, Mike

MTL

Lucic, Milan

CGY

Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (MTL)

Rachats de contrats

Karl Alzner: 833 333 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Jonathan Drouin: 2 300 000 $ (41.82%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2022
2023
2024

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	82 500 000 $	64 129 166 $	1 132 500 $	570 000 $	18 370 834 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Toffoli, Tyler 2 125 000 $2 125 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2	Suzuki, Nick 7 875 000 $7 875 000 $ C UFA - 8	Kravtsov, Vitali 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 1
Anderson, Josh 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 5	Poehling, Ryan 750 000 $750 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Gallagher, Brendan 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 5
Lehkonen, Artturi 2 800 000 $2 800 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 5	Evans, Jake 1 700 000 $1 700 000 $ C UFA - 3	Pitlick, Rem 1 200 000 $1 200 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2
Lucic, Milan 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1	Perreault, Mathieu 850 000 $850 000 $ AG, AD, C UFA	Deslauriers, Nicolas 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 4
Pezzetta, Michael 800 000 $800 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Thompson, Nate 750 000 $750 000 $ C UFA

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Edmundson, Joel 875 000 $875 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 2	Schultz, Justin 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ DD UFA - 2	Swayman, Jeremy 925 000 $925 000 $ (150 000 $$150K) G RFA - 1
Romanov, Alexander 2 800 000 $2 800 000 $ DG RFA - 3	Savard, David 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ DD UFA - 3	Montembeault, Samuel 850 000 $850 000 $ G UFA - 2
Guhle, Kaiden 863 333 $863 333 $ (420 000 $$420K) DG/DD RFA - 3	Vlasic, Marc-Édouard 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ DG/DD NMC UFA - 4
Harris, Jordan 850 000 $850 000 $ DG/DD RFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
		Weber, Shea 7 857 143 $7 857 143 $ DD UFA - 4
		Price, Carey 10 500 000 $10 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 4

31 janv. 2022 à 11 h 15

Gofnut999

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Boston is not trading Swayman at all. Certainly not for a 3rd line center. Swap Swayman for another 2nd or Beecher maybe.

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31 janv. 2022 à 11 h 16

KingBurns88

go Sharks go

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sharks definitely accept; a lottery protected 1st for Armia and an early 2nd to get rid of the worst contract in the league? fs

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31 janv. 2022 à 11 h 17

MTLaveragefan

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Quoting: Gofnut999

Boston is not trading Swayman at all. Certainly not for a 3rd line center.

Sorry, I was under the impression he was on his way out (don't know why).

I guess that Rask is not coming back next year, so Swayman would stay. Dvorak is more of a 2nd C (he was plagued with injury and Covid this year... so this year is not a good rep of his value).

I believe that BOS needs a 2C behind Bergeron.

31 janv. 2022 à 11 h 18

MTLaveragefan

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Quoting: KingBurns88

sharks definitely accept; a lottery protected 1st for Armia and an early 2nd to get rid of the worst contract in the league? fs

There would probably be extra consideration going MTL's way - but basically a top 10 pick for taking Vlasic.

31 janv. 2022 à 11 h 22

Gofnut999

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Quoting: MTLaveragefan

Dvorak’s best season averaged .55ppg. That’s a 3rd liner.

Haula averaging .79 ppg at C2 since being moved there.

Boston definitely needs a young center. And this is one of the few times a B’s/Habs trade would make sense. But i don’t see you recouping the cost you paid for him.

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31 janv. 2022 à 11 h 30

mikearky

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Wings are not trading two 2nds for Petry. I wish Hab fans would stop. There is no roster spot withSeider, Hronek and Lindstrom. They need a LHD, not another RHD.

Sorry Wings do not need Petry or his cap as they will have players coming up with in the next 2 years and he does not fit the rebuild as he is 34.

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31 janv. 2022 à 11 h 36

aedoran

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Oh dear god!

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31 janv. 2022 à 11 h 38

Rob32sjsharks

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Sharks would absolutely do this deal but I feel your right that more would have to go back to Montreal.
if that's the case i think sharks would prefer to do 50% retained and a 1st for nothing or next to nothing.
the problem is i think MEV has said he never wants to leave SJS so its likely he plays one more year next year and either retires or gets bought out.

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31 janv. 2022 à 11 h 49

glarson17

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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks

I wouldn’t give up a 1st for half retention

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31 janv. 2022 à 11 h 52

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Quoting: Gofnut999

Boston is not trading Swayman at all. Certainly not for a 3rd line center. Swap Swayman for another 2nd or Beecher maybe.

And absolutely not to the Habs, one would think.

31 janv. 2022 à 12 h 14

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ON3M4N

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Quoting: MTLaveragefan

Lets just say this year isn't a great rep of his value. Lets look at his last 2 years at ARZ.

126GP / 69Pts

^That's good for about 45pts a season

This year in MTL he's got 34GP / 16Pts

^This is good for about 40pts on the season

I've said it on here before and I stand by it, Dvorak is a younger version of Charlie Coyle and Coyle is a 3C on a contender, 2C on a bad team.

31 janv. 2022 à 12 h 14

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DeadWingsv2

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Detroit doesn't want Petry for free, let alone giving up assets. Hard pass.

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31 janv. 2022 à 12 h 17

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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks

I think Vlasic would hate being under the media spotlight in Montreal because of his non value. As you suggest San Jose is his home now.

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31 janv. 2022 à 12 h 20

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Bias_it_self

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Would rather just buyout Vlasic

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31 janv. 2022 à 12 h 28

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Rob32sjsharks

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Quoting: glarson17

I wouldn’t give up a 1st for half retention

50% retained would be better than a buy out, but i get your trepidation giving up a 1st just to move 1/2 his deal.

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31 janv. 2022 à 12 h 30

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Rob32sjsharks

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Quoting: Bias_it_self

Would rather just buyout Vlasic

buy out in 23 off season seems the most likely plan (buy out this year is so much tougher and we would be better off if we wait one more year (and hope he retires).

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31 janv. 2022 à 12 h 35

#17

gary_bettman

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MEV declines immediately. He stated adamantly last offseason that he intends to finish his contract in SJ. MTL is his home but he would despise playing there given his distaste for the media as it is. And we're not moving our 1st for him, we need as many ELC contracts as we can get moving forward. Easy, easy no.

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31 janv. 2022 à 12 h 39

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glarson17

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Quoting: Bias_it_self

Would rather just buyout Vlasic

Quoting: Rob32sjsharks

buy out in 23 off season seems the most likely plan (buy out this year is so much tougher and we would be better off if we wait one more year (and hope he retires).

I’m cool with keeping him another year and making the buyout cost a less impactful cap hit. Could just scratch him on a regular basis and use him for times like the team is in right now with all the injuries. Just think giving up assets isn’t something the sharks can afford to do long term. They do have some good prospects but there’s no guarantee they all pan out, most likely not. I’d rather have more high end talent in the system than just move part of Vlasics contract or move it and take just as much cap in crap back.

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31 janv. 2022 à 12 h 46

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Rob32sjsharks

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Quoting: glarson17

I fully agree!
if 30% of the Prospect we have in the pipeline actually hit their NHL ceiling we would be a cup contender!
as is it is Logical it expect 20-25% of the top 10 prospects to actually hit their Ceiling, and anther 20% to make the team at some point but never reach their potential.

and your take on Vlasic is fair but at 7 mil a season he is stuck in the lineup regardless of the talent behind him, which is why him being gone sooner than later is Ideal.

31 janv. 2022 à 12 h 55

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Shire

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Quoting: Gofnut999

Playing with Arizona and a 32nd place team in Montreal doesnt really do his production justice huh

31 janv. 2022 à 12 h 59

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Gofnut999

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Quoting: Shire

Playing with Arizona and a 32nd place team in Montreal doesnt really do his production justice huh

Depends who is line mates are huh? Was he playing 4th line with AHL talent or was he playing with the likes of Hall, Keller, Kessel, Toffoli etc.

31 janv. 2022 à 13 h 2

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Shire

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Quoting: Gofnut999

Depends who is line mates are huh? Was he playing 4th line with AHL talent or was he playing with the likes of Hall, Keller, Kessel, Toffoli etc.

Last game he played, he was centering for Laurent Dauphin and Hoffman, take that as you will.

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31 janv. 2022 à 13 h 31

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MTLaveragefan

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Quoting: ON3M4N

Fair enough - you still want him for something else?

31 janv. 2022 à 13 h 47

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ON3M4N

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Quoting: MTLaveragefan

Fair enough - you still want him for something else?

No, we have Charlie Coyle already. No need for another 3C

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31 janv. 2022 à 15 h 49

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Very appealing but moving that 1st is a total no-no for the Sharks. The value is fine, we just can't do it.

And as mentioned previously Vlasic doesn't waive.

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