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Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 16 h 26
Sujet: MTL 2022-2023
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>raph222b</b></div><div>TBF I saw a red wings fan say that they wouldn't mind Petry as a Hronek replacement. If MTL adds enough, Hronek and Petry in the same deal is possible. This isn't enough probably, but I don't think the habs would need to add too much more either.</div></div>
That was me, same deal would need to include a very nice +
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MaximeMurray</b></div><div>I doubt Hronek is in the futur plans of Detroit with Edvinsson and Seider. I agree i could maybe swap something but the value is not far from reality. The guy saying add Suzuki haha, dude come on. He is a first line center</div></div>
Why? Hronek goes 2RD.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>raph222b</b></div><div>All we want is a late first for him, Its just that the excuse that Detroit fans have is "He has no spot because of Hronek". If both players are on the same team, I think Petry fits above Hronek anyways.</div></div>

No spot &amp; Yzerman has repeatedly said he wants to acquire players that fit his core. If we use Hronek in a package for a top 6 center then sure but to swap Hronek for Petry makes no sense for Detroit.
Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 16 h 21
Forum: Armchair-GMmer. à 14 h 55
Sujet: If Detroit wants the 2nd overall pick to grab Cooley or Wright
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>The delta is what matters.
If Team A losing 5.6 in pick value, they would want same in prospect value.
If Team B loses 5.6 in pick value, they would want the same.

(Never follows exactly to script obviously, otherwise there would be no way to profit off a perfect market).

Was trying to use semi-objective method to dispel the notion that the delta for +6 spots and -6 spots is not the same. Delta +6 spots is closer to Delta -58 spots.</div></div>
But you’re asking for significantly more value as already stated using your own model. Would I like Cooley, yeah. My offer would be 8th + 2023 1st (protected) or Wallinder/Johansson. How would you rate that? Or what would NJD want in a trade back scenario?
Forum: Armchair-GMmer. à 14 h 30
Sujet: If Detroit wants the 2nd overall pick to grab Cooley or Wright
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>If Detroit fans wanted Holtz or Mercer to move down from #8 to #66...they should expect to pay a similar amount to get from #8 to #2.

Or...if Detroit fans are willing to take a 2nd rounder and middling prospect to jump down from #66 to #8...then, by all means, offer the same to move up from #8 to #2.

Make sense now?

(Devils not interested in #8 pick, nor moving Mercer or Holtz).</div></div>
Post 24, articulates my point from another chart.

If pick 2 is worth 12.3 and pick 8 is worth 6.7 the delta is 5.6 (no one cares about third round picks when discussing blue chip prospects/roster players). Raymond and Edvinsson have done nothing but increase their value since draft day and we’re selected 4 &amp; 6 respectively which would be more than the delta. If NJD offered either Mercer or Holtz 1:1 for 8th I’d take that without question but the real question would be what in addition to 8th would be appropriate value.

Detroit asking for Mercer or Holtz for 8th overall because they need top 6/4 guys and not depth guys. Detroit has had ~11 picks in the draft for multiple years and not enough spots for all the prospects which is why they’ve moved guys like Regula. So what incentive would their be for Detroit to trade the pick? I’m not sure what offers you’re referring to but I’d offer something like 8th + Wallinder/Johansson for 2nd or 8th + 2023 1st (protected) to give you an idea. I wouldn’t overpay for the pick but I think that’s a fair offer unless we differ on those prospects potential.
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