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Eichel to WPG

Créé par: tsyls
Équipe: 2021-22 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 12 août 2021
Publié: 12 août 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Saw this trade posted in another thread that was liked by Jets fans, and then again in another thread where people thought the Jets would be dumb to make this move. I think the Jets win this trade for sure, but that’s just me. Maybe I’m just too high on Eichel.

Also I know Buffalo is looking for mainly futures, but I was just expanding on a trade I had seen from Winnipeg’s perspective.

I added beaulieu to Buffalo to help with cap, also had to move DeMelo to sort out the cap. Ideally I’d like a different backup, but with cap restrictions there aren’t many options.
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WPG
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (CBJ)
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WPG
  1. Eichel, Jack
  2. Thompson, Tage
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (BUF)
BUF
  1. Beaulieu, Nathan
  2. Berdin, Mikhail
  3. Copp, Andrew [Droits de RFA]
  4. Dubois, Pierre-Luc
  5. Lundmark, Simon
  6. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (WPG)
  7. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (WPG)
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12 août 2021 à 13 h 35
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No way Pionk isn’t on the first defence pairing
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12 août 2021 à 13 h 37
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Quoting: CJets
No way Pionk isn’t on the first defence pairing


Yeah it’s highly likely, maybe Dillon and pionk become the first pair. With Morrissey slipping a bit over the past year or two, I could see them transitioning to Dillon and Pionk as the first pair.

Schmidt talked about how he had some conversations about playing with Morrissey, or playing with pionk. So with that in mind the top 4 will either be

Dillon - Pionk
Morrissey - Schmidt

Or

Dillon - Morrissey
Schmidt - Pionk
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12 août 2021 à 13 h 37
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So the trade is Dubois and a 1st for Eichel?
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12 août 2021 à 13 h 40
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So the trade is Dubois and a 1st for Eichel?


I mean, Berdin has starter potential IMO, and Copp can slot into buffalos top 6. Just berdin is stuck behind hellebuyck in Winnipeg, and Copp likely has priced himself out of Winnipeg.
12 août 2021 à 13 h 42
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For me that's just way too much to give up for an expensive player, with an injury that raises concerns for the rest of his career and hasn't proven yet to be worth his contact. The Jets are better off with Dubois and the cap space, at least for me.
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12 août 2021 à 13 h 44
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I mean, Berdin has starter potential IMO, and Copp can slot into buffalos top 6. Just berdin is stuck behind hellebuyck in Winnipeg, and Copp likely has priced himself out of Winnipeg.


Copp would take his arb award and walk to UFA and I here you about Berlin, but I really don’t think a goalie prospect does much. If Copp needs to go for cap reasons, sure. But it’s still not that enticing as a 3rd party.
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12 août 2021 à 13 h 44
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Considering what went down with Columbus, I don't think PLD can be the main piece for Buffalo. Maybe get another team (one that would be interested in landing PLD) involved. Bruins maybe? Avs?

Idk, just throwing thoughts out.
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12 août 2021 à 13 h 45
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Considering what went down with Columbus, I don't think PLD can be the main piece for Buffalo. Maybe get another team (one that would be interested in landing PLD) involved. Bruins maybe? Avs?

Idk, just throwing thoughts out.


You’re totally right I was just seeing what this package looked like from a Jets perspective.
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12 août 2021 à 13 h 46
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Quoting: jnowariak
Copp would take his arb award and walk to UFA and I here you about Berlin, but I really don’t think a goalie prospect does much. If Copp needs to go for cap reasons, sure. But it’s still not that enticing as a 3rd party.


Apparently Copp just wants to play in a US market close to home. Buffalo fits the bill, he wants top 6 time too, which he’ll get in Buffalo. 100% think he’d actually sign long term there.

But I do get what you’re saying, and it’s likely berdin doesn’t do much for Buffalo.
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12 août 2021 à 13 h 46
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So the trade is Dubois and a 1st for Eichel?


Copp gets a one year deal in arbitration. Beaulieu has one year and is a LHD. Berdin would be UPL back up next year. Landmark is signed and a RHD. Not horrible but not a piece Sabres need. A decent Winnipeg team makes the playoffs and the 1st is an okay asset.

The good news is, according to this lineup, the Sabres get Thompson back on waivers.

Not what the Sabres are really looking for. Give in to Eichel. Let him have his surgery. Let him play healthy and trade him later...
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12 août 2021 à 13 h 49
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Quoting: Windjammer
For me that's just way too much to give up for an expensive player, with an injury that raises concerns for the rest of his career and hasn't proven yet to be worth his contact. The Jets are better off with Dubois and the cap space, at least for me.


Yeah no I get that perspective as well. Dubois and the cap space might be better, along with keeping berdin, lundmark and the picks. I think the injury is overblown. The Artificial Disk Replacement seems to be very very effective and a short recovery period too. So I’m not overly concerned about the injury. When Eichel is healthy he’s a top 10 C IMO. So I’m looking at this in terms of having 2 top 15 centres on the team. IMO this pushes the Jets over the hump but I also get the concern with cap.
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12 août 2021 à 13 h 50
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Copp gets a one year deal in arbitration. Beaulieu has one year and is a LHD. Berdin would be UPL back up next year. Landmark is signed and a RHD. Not horrible but not a piece Sabres need. A decent Winnipeg team makes the playoffs and the 1st is an okay asset.

The good news is, according to this lineup, the Sabres get Thompson back on waivers.

Not what the Sabres are really looking for. Give in to Eichel. Let him have his surgery. Let him play healthy and trade him later...


Copp wants to be in a US market close to home where he can play in the top 6. Buffalo seems to fit that bill, but I also do understand your other points. Which in my description I eluded to by saying Buffalo likely wants an all futures package.
12 août 2021 à 13 h 54
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Buffalo declines, Tage Thompson is untouchable.
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12 août 2021 à 13 h 57
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Yeah no I get that perspective as well. Dubois and the cap space might be better, along with keeping berdin, lundmark and the picks. I think the injury is overblown. The Artificial Disk Replacement seems to be very very effective and a short recovery period too. So I’m not overly concerned about the injury. When Eichel is healthy he’s a top 10 C IMO. So I’m looking at this in terms of having 2 top 15 centres on the team. IMO this pushes the Jets over the hump but I also get the concern with cap.


I can understand that, my worry is always what if it doesn't work. Fun to talk about though.
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12 août 2021 à 13 h 59
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Pretty sure Columbus isn’t giving up a 2nd for DeMelo… they a as RW rebuilding, adding DeMelo for like a 4th sure, but not a 2nd.
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12 août 2021 à 14 h 21
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Apparently Copp just wants to play in a US market close to home. Buffalo fits the bill, he wants top 6 time too, which he’ll get in Buffalo. 100% think he’d actually sign long term there.

But I do get what you’re saying, and it’s likely berdin doesn’t do much for Buffalo.


Dubois and a 1st is a great baseline for an Eichel deal IMO, aside from Dubois not being locked up long term. I think the edges need to be rounded out though.
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12 août 2021 à 14 h 37
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Pretty sure Columbus isn’t giving up a 2nd for DeMelo… they a as RW rebuilding, adding DeMelo for like a 4th sure, but not a 2nd.


Yeah, I more so just used CBJ as an example, could be any team needing 2nd pairing RD help.
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I can understand that, my worry is always what if it doesn't work. Fun to talk about though.


Yes of course there is always that risk, which is why it’s fun.
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12 août 2021 à 14 h 48
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I for one would love to see karma ship PLD to Buffalo.
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12 août 2021 à 16 h 53
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I wouldn’t touch PLD with a 50 ft pole after his stunt in CBJ.
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12 août 2021 à 22 h 46
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I would love to see it.
It would be a nice kick in the crotch to Dubois to get traded to Buffalo for Eichel.
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12 août 2021 à 22 h 50
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Yeah it’s highly likely, maybe Dillon and pionk become the first pair. With Morrissey slipping a bit over the past year or two, I could see them transitioning to Dillon and Pionk as the first pair.

Schmidt talked about how he had some conversations about playing with Morrissey, or playing with pionk. So with that in mind the top 4 will either be

Dillon - Pionk
Morrissey - Schmidt

Or

Dillon - Morrissey
Schmidt - Pionk


I'd prefer your Dillon-Pionk combination as the first pairing and Morrissey - Schmidt on the second. The second combination of playing Morrissey and Schmidt on their non-preferred sides feels like an accident waiting to happen.
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