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Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 18 h 49

Sujet: Sabres TDL for playoff push

I don’t think the Wild can fit Olafsson next year. But I do think Dumba would go to BUF, but they’d need at least a 2nd and probably another piece to move him.

I think you nailed the Meier trade tho.

Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 23 h 7

Sujet: No more extra defensemen

Where is the idea that Kapanen has value coming from? Hasn’t he been disappointing in his time in PIT?

Forum: Armchair-GMlun. à 19 h 2

Sujet: Schenn Value

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Newgod77</b></div><div>The Canucks turning down a second for a depth defender at last deadline is peak Canucks</div></div>

Delusions of grandeur will do that to you.

Forum: Armchair-GMlun. à 15 h 4

Sujet: Boeser again

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CJ1909</b></div><div>Jnowariak -- I like this build. Wild could become compliant by not signing Steel and letting Rossi take that spot or someone on a minimum and saving nearly $1M AND brining someone up on an entry deal and unloading Goose for a pick exchange. I'd rather go this route and not be pressed to move Boeser, although your retention to $5M didn't work and they would be nearly compliant with the retention that you speak of.</div></div>

Yeah, appreciate the feedback. I wanted to see what would need to be done to make Boeser work. It’s basically trading him for Freddy and Hartman, which I’m fine with. I don’t think this team, as currently constructed in 2022, can do anything. My biggest hope is that Freddy gets traded and Dean is forced to play Rossi.

But you could also keep Hartman and let Steel go as well in this scenario, I signed them to the same cap hit. But I wonder if the Dumba scratches weren’t to showcase Goose a bit. If it’s as unlikely that a team ponies up for Dumba as I think, I don’t see Goose wanting to hang around. And that solves some of the cap problems.

Most of the guys are also waiver exempt so you could bank some insurance cap space along the way.

Forum: Armchair-GMlun. à 12 h 4

Sujet: Boeser again

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RavensShadow</b></div><div>AS a Sabers fan I like to see what Granato could do with some of these struggling players from other teams. But unless the trade is a killer deal or a RD I don't think Adam's will do it.</div></div>

Do you think they’re gonna make a move at the TDL to push for the playoffs? They’re in a spot where they can throw around a pick or 2.

Forum: Armchair-GMdim. à 13 h 4

Sujet: Bjugstad Gudas and Boeser

I’d happily take that Dumba trade. I don’t think FLA is moving Gudas tho. I don’t think it would take that much to move the entirety of the Boeser contract but I like the fit.

Forum: Armchair-GMdim. à 1 h 20

Sujet: TD ideas

Problem with the Kapanen-Greenway swap is that MN wants to get out of the salary the next 2 years. That Kappy has a year left makes it a no go. It’s not a problem to take back cap this year (Dumo or Blueger) if the price is right, I’d ideally like a 2nd for Greenway but I’d live with a 3rd.

Forum: Armchair-GMdim. à 1 h 15

Sujet: Deadline defense

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OutCold13</b></div><div>That package won't even get you Greenway, and he really isn't special.</div></div>

LOL yes it would.

Forum: Armchair-GMsam. à 16 h 5

Sujet: The Available Player That I Think Is the Best Fit

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockyluv21</b></div><div>Canes are way more likely to spend a 2nd on Boeser than Tarasenko. Canes like term.</div></div>

Do they like term or value for term? I think it comes down to whether they think Boeser is surplus value on his contract the next 2 years, which I’m not sure if he is. I think VAN needs to retain to get a 2nd to put him in surplus value territory.

Forum: Armchair-GMsam. à 15 h 10

Sujet: The Available Player That I Think Is the Best Fit

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CM_Insane</b></div><div>A 2nd might get it done. I think after most probably 2nd + Coghlan would probably be peak value. Maybe Boeser and Burroughs (just as a replacement level D in case of injuries) for Coghlan and a 2nd?</div></div>

If the Canucks are moving his entire contract, I get the sense a 2nd is too high. CAR values their cap space and could probably pay a 2nd to get Tarasenko and maintain their flexibility over the next couple years. Maybe a 3rd gets it done or Coghlan on his own?

Forum: Armchair-GMven. à 16 h 29

Sujet: Horvat longterm

Was just thinking about Horvat and CAR probably has the stuff to put a winning deal together given what VAN has stated they want, “good young players that maybe didn’t work out on their ELC.”

Start off with Coghlin and Drury. What else needs to be thrown in there? Maybe a Suzuki or a Heimosalmi?

Forum: Armchair-GMven. à 14 h 37

Sujet: Dumba scratched again

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>Based on everything I know, they either want a 2 way D that’s above average defensively to play with Sanderson or they’re looking for a more defensive guy to play with Chabot. Idk if Addison or Walker or Spence is what they need .</div></div>

Well then that’s Dumba. I’ll still dream about somehow getting Pinto.

Forum: Armchair-GMven. à 14 h 26

Sujet: Dumba scratched again

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>Not to change the subject but Dorion was in attendance for the LA game last night. You guys have RD , and the Sens need RD without spending more than 3 mill on one for next year</div></div>

I wonder if he was looking at Addison. I know you guys are high on Pinto but that’s my left field framework.

Forum: Armchair-GMven. à 14 h 24

Sujet: Dumba scratched again

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Any chance for the delay being because they're having trouble negotiating the extension with . . . Andrei Kuzmenko?

Naaah, Dumba to a non-contender doesn't make sense, so I don't think that you have to worry about Horvat.</div></div>

I’m worried they get a 1st and flip it for Horvat. But I really wonder how much VAN wants to move on from Boeser. He’s the guy I’m most interested in on the Nucks.

Forum: Armchair-GMven. à 14 h 19

Sujet: Dumba scratched again

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>Shouldn’t u move Greenway tbh?</div></div>

I think they’re moving Greenway regardless. Probably before the deadline. He doesn’t allow us the space to really get another contract but it does give us a buffer to ensure we can keep Gus and Addison.

Forum: Armchair-GMven. à 14 h 16

Sujet: Dumba scratched again

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Upper_Body_Injury</b></div><div>You know I was just looking at twitter and someone commented that a reason why Dumba is being scratched is because there is a trade but they are holding off on trading him till after the dad/guest trip the team is doing in FLA...</div></div>

That’s class by the org IMO.

Forum: Armchair-GMven. à 14 h 15

Sujet: Dumba scratched again

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>Wonder if it’s Dumba + 1st and 2nd for Schenn and Horvat type trade with both guys extended</div></div>

I’m sorry, but they cannot fit Horvat without moving Brods or Spurg. Horvat would be a pure rental. Also, not having any 1sts this year would be a massive blunder for the org.

Forum: Armchair-GMven. à 14 h 12

Sujet: Dumba scratched again

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>A performance based scratch would bring down his value, it has to be a trade. They’re not that dumb 😂</div></div>

I would bet that the messaging was done for Matt’s sake. It’s also something BG would do, I respect the way he handles people more every day.

Forum: Armchair-GMven. à 14 h 11

Sujet: Dumba scratched again

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>brgh4life</b></div><div>Interesting. I saw Dregs saying that the Horvat chatter was really picking up and a few teams are trying to make moves early. Will be interesting to see what Dumba gets in return.</div></div>

I don’t think they trade him unless the return is quite large. But it’s the Horvat stuff that gets me. He makes sense for the Wild right now but it would be a long term mistake for the team. If they can get multiple top 40 picks in this years draft, they could set themselves up like the Kings or the Devils in the coming years. I would much rather have that than a couple months of Horvat.

Forum: Armchair-GMven. à 14 h 3

Sujet: Dumba scratched again

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>brgh4life</b></div><div>Pens decline. Also, I saw Russo reporting that the coaching was scratching him for his recent play and that it wasn't good enough.</div></div>

Not twice in a row. Yesterday, sure. But not again. There’s a trade coming.

Forum: Armchair-GMven. à 14 h 1

Sujet: Dumba scratched again

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Digitalbooya06</b></div><div>Who said he was scratched again? They don’t play till tomorrow night.</div></div>

Beat reported Joe Smith. Evason confirmed no changes other than goalies.

Forum: Armchair-GMven. à 14 h 0

Sujet: Dumba scratched again

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Upper_Body_Injury</b></div><div>Could be a trade coming.....I think the most exciting thing is seeing what the market is going to look like. With so many playoff bound teams cap strapped it will be very interesting to see if prices for rentals/trades are down from years past or if they continue to rise.</div></div>

BG did this with Zucker. He cashed in early when teams still had all their assets. That’s how you maximize the value on a guy like Dumba, I think he would actually get less if he moves closer to the deadline.

Forum: Armchair-GMven. à 13 h 58

Sujet: SIMONSELAARS3 Idea

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stevo989898</b></div><div>I get what you are saying but Edmonton is impatient for another solid defender and I have had a ton of respect for how Dumba plays the game, I actually think he is a game changer for us. Holloway is a top prospect and it would be a tough pill to swallow but I think that if we got Dumba with retention and a 5 year deal at 4m, you have to drink some beer and suck it back.</div></div>

I agree with you about Dumba’s fit with the Oilers. He would only make their rush offense more potent. They still need to get some scoring depth but the glove fits.

Forum: Armchair-GMven. à 13 h 42

Sujet: Dumba scratched again

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>It has to be a trade no?</div></div>

I don’t see how it couldn’t be. My biggest fear is that they’re in on Horvat. Would be great but this team is still 2 top 6 players away after that.

Forum: Armchair-GMven. à 12 h 31

Sujet: Dumba trade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TanSor</b></div><div>The idea of Boeser and Boldy would be really intriguing and if the Canucks retained half of his contract we could definitely fit him in, but ultimately the assets are better used for upgrading at center. Steel and Gaudreau are fine players, but they definitely shouldn't be your two top 6 centers.</div></div>

I don’t think Boeser costs near this, even with half retention. Maybe he gets a 2nd with that retention but remember Patches required a young NHL ready d man to shed. And Boeser has term left.

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