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2021 offseason talks thread

11 sept. à 21 h 17
#11826
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Oh boy, popcorn , asking Detroit fans their opinion, he’s in for a ride
11 sept. à 21 h 50
#11827
LETS GO LIGHTNING
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Modifié 11 sept. à 21 h 57
31 days until the season starts.

We're a month out from the quest for the 3-peat, people. October 12, 7 PM Eastern

Let's take a look back at last season, shall we? smile

(I get chills watching this)

12 sept. à 0 h 1
#11828
MERCER SZN
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Quoting: Db1899
I can understand the Devils not taking Raty because he’s a center, if I was running the devils draft I would have taken Stankoven. He reminds me of Marchessault.


Agreed that Stankoven is the better player but Stillman fits the team more
12 sept. à 1 h 4
#11829
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Quoting: ConservativeLightningFan91
Let's take a look back at last season, shall we? smile


How about no?
Still haven’t seen any of the 2021 Stanley Cup championship, and I’d like to keep it that way.
12 sept. à 1 h 8
#11830
Pain for Shane
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
How about no?
Still haven’t seen any of the 2021 Stanley Cup championship, and I’d like to keep it that way.


In my mind, the season ended on June 24th.
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12 sept. à 16 h 28
#11831
Hakuna Matata
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fun question for all here

Which player do we think will be the first to surpass McDavid's cap hit?

For me its a toss up between MacKinnon (if he decides not to take a discount) and Barkov (if he leaves Florida)
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12 sept. à 16 h 34
#11832
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Quoting: aadoyle
fun question for all here

Which player do we think will be the first to surpass McDavid's cap hit?

For me its a toss up between MacKinnon (if he decides not to take a discount) and Barkov (if he leaves Florida)


Matthews
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12 sept. à 16 h 37
#11833
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So Ennis may sign PTO in Vancouver but also chance of Oilers return

Holland talking to Chiasson's agent so good chance he is an Oiler by training camp

Tarasenko and the Blues will wait till the deadline to make a move should he still desire a trade. No good offers were presented to Armstrong and Tarasenko does not want to decrease his image and value within the NHL.

Eichel trade talks went quiet again. Seems like if he is moved it will be at next years draft.
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12 sept. à 16 h 41
#11834
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Quoting: aadoyle
fun question for all here

Which player do we think will be the first to surpass McDavid's cap hit?

For me its a toss up between MacKinnon (if he decides not to take a discount) and Barkov (if he leaves Florida)


The only 4 options would be Barkov, MacKinnon, Matthews, and Draisaitl. But because the cap will likely be relatively flat until 26-27, there’s a decent chance that the first person to surpass McDavid is McDavid. (Whose contract is up in 2026)
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12 sept. à 16 h 45
#11835
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Quoting: aadoyle
fun question for all here

Which player do we think will be the first to surpass McDavid's cap hit?

For me its a toss up between MacKinnon (if he decides not to take a discount) and Barkov (if he leaves Florida)


I’d say Matthews or McDavid’s next contract
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12 sept. à 16 h 46
#11836
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
The only 4 options would be Barkov, MacKinnon, Matthews, and Draisaitl. But because the cap will likely be relatively flat until 26-27, there’s a decent chance that the first person to surpass McDavid is McDavid. (Whose contract is up in 2026)


Im looking at Barkov as the earliest one that we may get to see next summer. With his improvements at both ends would not be surprised if next season we hear someone offered him 13 mill on open market.
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12 sept. à 16 h 47
#11837
MTL AGM v5
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Quoting: aadoyle
fun question for all here

Which player do we think will be the first to surpass McDavid's cap hit?

For me its a toss up between MacKinnon (if he decides not to take a discount) and Barkov (if he leaves Florida)


Nick Suzuki next season or Cole Caufield the year after
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12 sept. à 16 h 48
#11838
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Quoting: aadoyle
So Ennis may sign PTO in Vancouver but also chance of Oilers return

Holland talking to Chiasson's agent so good chance he is an Oiler by training camp

Tarasenko and the Blues will wait till the deadline to make a move should he still desire a trade. No good offers were presented to Armstrong and Tarasenko does not want to decrease his image and value within the NHL.

Eichel trade talks went quiet again. Seems like if he is moved it will be at next years draft.


So I imagine for both Eichel and Tarasenko, the GM hopes they play, and with the play time comes offers that are worthwhile, I imagine Senko will play, do good and either change his opinion or get traded since there’ll be suitors, Eichel though, it may come to a bloody end
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12 sept. à 16 h 51
#11839
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
So I imagine for both Eichel and Tarasenko, the GM hopes they play, and with the play time comes offers that are worthwhile, I imagine Senko will play, do good and either change his opinion or get traded since there’ll be suitors, Eichel though, it may come to a bloody end


If Tarasenko can do well for them and not get hurt someone at the deadline will give them a good deal 100%. Or who knows he may even decide to stay

As for Eichel's situation its so messed up. With the injury dilemma teams are hesitant to commit to more than just inquires at this point. Until he either does the surgery or plays I don't think we will see him traded till next draft. Maybe at the deadline but that's doubtful. Buffalo should have honestly let him have the surgery earlier and by now he would have rehabbed enough to play or been close enough to start maybe in November but no Adams decided nah lets wait thins out.
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12 sept. à 17 h 46
#11840
Merry Christmas
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Quoting: aadoyle
fun question for all here

Which player do we think will be the first to surpass McDavid's cap hit?

For me its a toss up between MacKinnon (if he decides not to take a discount) and Barkov (if he leaves Florida)


Mackinnon or Matthews I'd say. Possibly even McDavid. Good as Barkov is, I have a very hard time seeing him be the highest payed, I don't think he's worth 13 mil.
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12 sept. à 18 h 6
#11841
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Quoting: aadoyle
fun question for all here

Which player do we think will be the first to surpass McDavid's cap hit?

For me its a toss up between MacKinnon (if he decides not to take a discount) and Barkov (if he leaves Florida)


For someone to pass McDavid we either need
A) one of the best players in the league
or
B) a questionable gm and a very good player with a resume.

My dollar is (B) that Patrick Kane's next contract is short term 13mil.
12 sept. à 18 h 11
#11842
Sit back and relax..
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I love Bruins fans
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12 sept. à 19 h 2
#11843
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Quoting: aadoyle
fun question for all here

Which player do we think will be the first to surpass McDavid's cap hit?

For me its a toss up between MacKinnon (if he decides not to take a discount) and Barkov (if he leaves Florida)


Morgan Rielly if he stays with the leafs
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12 sept. à 19 h 6
#11844
Jinx lord
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Quoting: aadoyle
fun question for all here

Which player do we think will be the first to surpass McDavid's cap hit?

For me its a toss up between MacKinnon (if he decides not to take a discount) and Barkov (if he leaves Florida)


Blake Comeau.
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12 sept. à 19 h 7
#11845
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
So I imagine for both Eichel and Tarasenko, the GM hopes they play, and with the play time comes offers that are worthwhile, I imagine Senko will play, do good and either change his opinion or get traded since there’ll be suitors, Eichel though, it may come to a bloody end


I think Tarasenko is going to regress even more. It’s going to be extremely difficult to get a team to trade significant assets for him.
12 sept. à 20 h 29
#11846
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
The only 4 options would be Barkov, MacKinnon, Matthews, and Draisaitl. But because the cap will likely be relatively flat until 26-27, there’s a decent chance that the first person to surpass McDavid is McDavid. (Whose contract is up in 2026)


Shane Wright...that might not be a crazy one if he comes out and goes for a ppg in his first 3 seasons.
12 sept. à 20 h 34
#11847
Sit back and relax..
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
Shane Wright...that might not be a crazy one if he comes out and goes for a ppg in his first 3 seasons.


SJS Forward Shane Wright*
12 sept. à 20 h 44
#11848
Pain for Shane
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
Shane Wright...that might not be a crazy one if he comes out and goes for a ppg in his first 3 seasons.


We’re still looking at being 5 years into a relatively flat cap. He’d probably be forced to take a bridge, then he could get more on his 3rd contract.
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12 sept. à 20 h 47
#11849
Sit back and relax..
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Modifié 12 sept. à 20 h 56
Been showing what I say often, if Karlsson had a good team we'd talk less about him negatively (not living by this card just interesting)



That from my perspective; he is not bad and adv. stats still suggest if he had a good team he'd be eating points up
12 sept. à 21 h 7
#11850
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Quoting: Rangsey
For someone to pass McDavid we either need
A) one of the best players in the league
or
B) a questionable gm and a very good player with a resume.

My dollar is (B) that Patrick Kane's next contract is short term 13mil.

No way Kane makes 13 on his next deal, he probably won’t even make what he does now, he’ll regress though he may be offered on Ovi type deal based on past performances with way too much term
 
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