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7 sept. 2021 à 12 h 43
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Montreal Canadiens players on the list -

14. Nick Suzuki
23. Cole Caufield
89. Alexander Romanov
133. Kaiden Guhle
164. Ryan Poehling
178. Cayden Primeau
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7 sept. 2021 à 12 h 44
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Pronman really has Casey Mittelstat ahead of perfetti, tomasino, Rossi lol…his list is awful

To be fair Rossi has really fallen off, being tiny and then missing a critical development year to a bad case of COVID really sucks, hopefully he can bounce back and get on track again. And Tomasino is good but Mittelstadt does have higher upside and proved he can somewhat produce at the NHL level this year, maybe with 2C upside. I’d probably have Perfetti ahead of Mittelstadt for sure though.
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7 sept. 2021 à 12 h 50
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To be fair Rossi has really fallen off, being tiny and then missing a critical development year to a bad case of COVID really sucks, hopefully he can bounce back and get on track again. And Tomasino is good but Mittelstadt does have higher upside and proved he can somewhat produce at the NHL level this year, maybe with 2C upside. I’d probably have Perfetti ahead of Mittelstadt for sure though.


Based on potential it’s not even close between Rossi and Mitrelstadt - He’s small but one of the stronger players in his draft class. I believe he had the 1st or 2nd highest star % from the 2020 draft - If he’s fully healthy now he has the potential to be an elite 1C.

Mittelstadt had a 16.4 S% which isn’t sustainable, yeah he was decent but he also had pretty bad underlying numbers. Tomasino has the potential to be a two way top line winger. If Mittelstadt pans out he’s an average 2C at best
7 sept. 2021 à 12 h 50
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Quoting: Db1899
Pronman really has Casey Mittelstat ahead of perfetti, tomasino, Rossi lol…his list is awful


Most guys who use analytics to predict prospects has awful takes
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7 sept. 2021 à 12 h 50
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Montreal Canadiens players on the list -

14. Nick Suzuki
23. Cole Caufield
89. Alexander Romanov
133. Kaiden Guhle
164. Ryan Poehling
178. Cayden Primeau

Sens and Flames? I imagine the guys on the list could be:

Stutzle, Tkachuk, Sanderson, Pinto, JBD, Greig, Brannstrom, Gustavsson, Sogaard, Merilainen (should be anyway, but Pronman hates goalies so maybe just Gustavsson), maybe Formenton and Jarventie

Zary, Pelletier, Coronato, Valimaki, Wolf, maybe Ruzicka
7 sept. 2021 à 12 h 51
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Most guys who use analytics to predict prospects has awful takes


I don’t think Pronman uses analytics.
7 sept. 2021 à 12 h 53
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Quoting: Alfie11
Sens and Flames? I imagine the guys on the list could be:

Stutzle, Tkachuk, Sanderson, Pinto, JBD, Greig, Brannstrom, Gustavsson, Sogaard, Merilainen (should be anyway, but Pronman hates goalies so maybe just Gustavsson), maybe Formenton and Jarventie

Zary, Pelletier, Coronato, Valimaki, Wolf, maybe Ruzicka


Calgary Flames

96. Matthew Coronato
115. Connor Zary
174. Jakob Pelletier

Ottawa Senators

7. Tim Stutzle
8. Brady Tkachuk
27. Jake Sanderson
58. Shane Pinto
86. Alex Formenton
98. Erik Brannstrom
118. Jacob Bernard-Docker
166. Ridly Greig

Filip Gustavsson is 23.
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7 sept. 2021 à 12 h 55
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Pronman really has Casey Mittelstat ahead of perfetti, tomasino, Rossi lol…his list is awful


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7 sept. 2021 à 12 h 56
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Calgary Flames

96. Matthew Coronato
115. Connor Zary
174. Jakob Pelletier

Ottawa Senators

7. Tim Stutzle
8. Brady Tkachuk
27. Jake Sanderson
58. Shane Pinto
86. Alex Formenton
98. Erik Brannstrom
118. Jacob Bernard-Docker
166. Ridly Greig

Filip Gustavsson is 23.

Ima doubt there’s many Sharks there?

imo Ferraro, Eklund, Bordeleau, Knyzhov deserve a spot (Ferraro being high, same with Eklund Bordeleau, and Knyzhov being in the 100-Last range maybe)
7 sept. 2021 à 12 h 57
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I get that not everyone’s list is going to be the same but he has some terrible takes
7 sept. 2021 à 12 h 58
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Calgary Flames

96. Matthew Coronato
115. Connor Zary
174. Jakob Pelletier

Ottawa Senators

7. Tim Stutzle
8. Brady Tkachuk
27. Jake Sanderson
58. Shane Pinto
86. Alex Formenton
98. Erik Brannstrom
118. Jacob Bernard-Docker
166. Ridly Greig

Filip Gustavsson is 23.


No Norris? Norris (22) should be quite high (and I assume Batherson “graduated” this list? But he’s still 23)
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7 sept. 2021 à 12 h 59
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Quoting: yikes
No Norris?


Yeah I missed him my bad. He's somewhere between Suzuki and Caufield if I remember correctly
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7 sept. 2021 à 13 h 8
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Yeah I missed him my bad. He's somewhere between Suzuki and Caufield if I remember correctly

I actually forgot Norris was only 22 lol I thought he was 23 like Batherson. And I thought Gus was still 22 but that’s because he was 22 when he was playing this year. Thanks! Interesting to know that Jarventie is the cut off for the Sens. I’m shocked Valimaki isn’t on the list tbh, he still has top pair upside and was fine on the 3rd pair this year, trusted on the PK, should start as a #5 and be at least a solid top 4 guy by year’s end. I’m also really surprised Wolf didn’t make the cut after back to back WHL goalie of the year honours, including CHL goalie of the year in 19-20 (I don’t think it was awarded this year because the O didn’t play, but presumably he coulda won it again).
7 sept. 2021 à 13 h 20
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Calgary Flames

96. Matthew Coronato
115. Connor Zary
174. Jakob Pelletier

Ottawa Senators

7. Tim Stutzle
8. Brady Tkachuk
27. Jake Sanderson
58. Shane Pinto
86. Alex Formenton
98. Erik Brannstrom
118. Jacob Bernard-Docker
166. Ridly Greig

Filip Gustavsson is 23.


How many Canucks? Can’t imagine there are too many after Pettersson and Hughes
7 sept. 2021 à 13 h 24
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How many Canucks? Can’t imagine there are too many after Pettersson and Hughes


Moment of appreciation for SevenLeg as we’ve asked for the flames Sharks devils Sens nucks Canadians

Just using this man lol
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7 sept. 2021 à 13 h 25
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Montreal Canadiens players on the list -

14. Nick Suzuki
23. Cole Caufield
89. Alexander Romanov
133. Kaiden Guhle
164. Ryan Poehling
178. Cayden Primeau


The dude really doesn’t like Norlinder.
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7 sept. 2021 à 14 h 19
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Bold Olympic Predictions
-China scores 1 goal (against Germany)
-ROC heavily disappoints
-Finland and Sweden is the best game of the Olympics
-Canada's goaltending holds them back
-US Wins Gold

Individual Bold Predictions
-Eichel comes back from injury, plays for US, and goes off. He gets traded from Buffalo after he wins gold
-McDavid and Mack tear it up, having an average of 2 points a game
-First line of Fiala Meier and Hischier carry Switzerland, who just miss out of the Semifinals
7 sept. 2021 à 14 h 31
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Bold Olympic Predictions
-China scores 1 goal (against Germany)
-ROC heavily disappoints
-Finland and Sweden is the best game of the Olympics
-Canada's goaltending holds them back
-US Wins Gold

Individual Bold Predictions
-Eichel comes back from injury, plays for US, and goes off. He gets traded from Buffalo after he wins gold
-McDavid and Mack tear it up, having an average of 2 points a game
-First line of Fiala Meier and Hischier carry Switzerland, who just miss out of the Semifinals


Yeah ok… Canada stomps over everyone. 74-0 Canada against China. USA gets 3rd
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7 sept. 2021 à 14 h 32
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Yeah ok… Canada stomps over everyone. 74-0 Canada against China. USA gets 3rd


They're called BOLD Predictions for a reason
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7 sept. 2021 à 14 h 35
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They're called BOLD Predictions for a reason


Lol. Also for you Devils fans, Hughes is expected to get a little North of 8 million which tells you a little something about the term. Jack and Luke’s deals will end before Quinn’s therefore Jack and Luke to Vancouver confirmed
7 sept. 2021 à 14 h 38
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Lol. Also for you Devils fans, Hughes is expected to get a little North of 8 million which tells you a little something about the term. Jack and Luke’s deals will end before Quinn’s therefore Jack and Luke to Vancouver confirmed


It's good for you to have dreams I guess
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7 sept. 2021 à 14 h 40
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It's good for you to have dreams I guess


I know my dreams won’t come true but I’m glad that New Jersey fans dreams won’t come true either
7 sept. 2021 à 14 h 44
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Just read the ranking under 23 players and I’m laughing so hard rn. Pronman literally is so dumb. He said Svechnikov a tier above Pettersson. Anyone want to make an argument on his behalf?
7 sept. 2021 à 15 h 3
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Olympic Medal Predictions:

Gold: Canada
Silver: Finland
Bronze: USA
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7 sept. 2021 à 15 h 19
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Lol. Also for you Devils fans, Hughes is expected to get a little North of 8 million which tells you a little something about the term. Jack and Luke’s deals will end before Quinn’s therefore Jack and Luke to Vancouver confirmed


Jack and Luke will both be RFAs and the Devils have all the cap space in the world so I don't get how they'll go to Vancouver. But keep dreaming ig

And Quinn will become a UFA faster than Luke or Jack which means a better chance Quinn leaves Vancouver.
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