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11 août 2021 à 22 h 48
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Quoting: Dzinger18
Starting bid: Pettersson or McDavid

You already know how Waddell values things.


If you add a 7th I’m pretty sure either would bite.
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11 août 2021 à 22 h 51
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Quoting: EsoYeezus69
Bro Holland is really trying to make the worst D core in the league.


To add to the Dcore insult heres the Oilers





And here's Vancouver


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11 août 2021 à 22 h 52
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Quoting: aadoyle
To add to the Dcore insult heres the Oilers





And here is Vancouver




A lot of red. Way too much red.
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11 août 2021 à 22 h 54
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Quoting: EsoYeezus69
A lot of red.


Notice the defensive ranking for both teams. RIP the goalies

Mcdavid and Draisaitl are gonna score a ton to even out the +/- but then will injure themselves through being overplayed. And Oilers will be back at square one

And Petey gonna be like you got 5 years from me do good or I'm out
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11 août 2021 à 23 h 7
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Quoting: aadoyle
Notice the 31st ranking for both teams. RIP the goalies

Mcdavid and Draisaitl are gonna score a ton to even out the +/- but then will injure themselves through being overplayed. And Oilers will be back at square one

And Petey gonna be like you got 5 years from me do good or I'm out


EDM has arguably the best forward core in the league - Ryan, Hyman, Foegle are solid adds. Benson could make the team as well. It’s unfortunate Holland couldn’t build an average D core
11 août 2021 à 23 h 16
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11 août 2021 à 23 h 20
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Quoting: GarthBrooks


LOL

I still can’t believe they made this just to lose in round 1

Looks like it’ll be worth watching tho
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11 août 2021 à 23 h 28
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Quoting: yikes
LOL

I still can’t believe they made this just to lose in round 1

Looks like it’ll be worth watching tho


At least they addressed it from the top lol
11 août 2021 à 23 h 41
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Quoting: yikes
LOL

I still can’t believe they made this just to lose in round 1

Looks like it’ll be worth watching tho


Its another Leaf moment. You want a good or bad once in a lifetime moment in the NHL call the leafs. And if not them than the Houston Coyotes

I'm maybe gonna watch the behind the scenes stuff as pissed off Dubas looks entertaining. Dont really care for this kind of stuff. Like if the leafs went to the semi's I still would probs skip this series.

Should have honestly just scrapped it or released it on leafs network that barely anyone watches. Than again $$$$$ does talk
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11 août 2021 à 23 h 51
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Quoting: mondo
He has a right to say and believe what he wants. The Marlies have a right not to employ him because of things he says and believes.


Do they though? They have a right to disagree with him but I think that as a human being you should be able to disagree with someone politically, civilly debate them and still respect them and put politics aside on a human level. Being a racist or homophobe isn’t political beliefs though so a completely different standard as long as it’s a current belief and not something that happened ten years ago. I have no knowledge of this particular instance but as a general stance I think it should be something like the one above.
12 août 2021 à 0 h 5
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Quoting: yikes
LOL

I still can’t believe they made this just to lose in round 1

Looks like it’ll be worth watching tho


Also just gonna MIB this so we can all go on with our lives and not waste our time with this series

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12 août 2021 à 0 h 16
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Quoting: Db1899
EDM has arguably the best forward core in the league - Ryan, Hyman, Foegle are solid adds. Benson could make the team as well. It’s unfortunate Holland couldn’t build an average D core


There basically gonna score their way out of their defensive/goaltending issues. Its what the leafs tried to do from 2016-2020. As rn as I mentioned they have a good forward core, meh dcore, and let be real an slightly below average goaltending duo. Their lucky the pacific division is weak. Than again Calgary rn could give them a run for their money if they meet in round 1. As Mangiapane-Backlund-Coleman could give Mcdavid and Draisaitl headaches.
12 août 2021 à 0 h 34
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Late night update:

Another UFA is off the books and leaving the NHL

Lucas Wallmark who looked good with the canes but never rebounded after being traded as gone to the KHL (CSKA specifically)

Hopefully he can restart his career and come back
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12 août 2021 à 8 h 17
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Quoting: aadoyle
Late night update:

Another UFA is off the books and leaving the NHL

Lucas Wallmark who looked good with the canes but never rebounded after being traded as gone to the KHL (CSKA specifically)

Hopefully he can restart his career and come back


Canes legend. He was one of my favorite players when he was here. We really could've just gave him league min to play on the 4th line. He also had some insane chem with Foegele when he was here so Edmonton could've also signed him. Maybe there was just a better opportunity in Russia. Him and Kaprizov are gonna light it up for CSKA.
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12 août 2021 à 8 h 32
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How good is this? Can the D-core carry this team to the SC?

Marchand-Hintz-Rust
Fabbri-Cirelli-Lindholm
Wood-R.Strome-Kunin
Sanford-Grant-Reaves

Theodore-Ekblad
Gavrikov-Parayko
Boroweicki-Stecher

Varlamov
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12 août 2021 à 8 h 36
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I know a lot of them might/will resign with their respective teams, but man the FA class of the next offseason is so good.
12 août 2021 à 8 h 40
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I wanted to point something out: I disagree with the generally held opinion that «ToM wIlSoN bRoKe ThE rAnGeRs»

It's untrue. What is true, however, is that Goodrow is slightly overpaid (he's worth 3M, not 3,6) and that we should've gotten more for Buchnevich, but with or without Wilson, we were getting pushed around and this needed fixing. Maybe we slightly overcorrected, but it was a major issue regardless of the Wilson incident.
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12 août 2021 à 9 h 9
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The best contract from every team, IMO, ELC excluded:

Anaheim: Hampus Lindholm. If they wanted to sell him, his pretty cheap contract could guarantee a great return
Arizona: Chychrun. Their best player and IMO the most underrated LD-man in the entire league
Boston: Pasta, one of the 3 best goal scorers in the league and he doesn't even have a 7M AAV. McAvoy is a close 2nd but Pasta's term gave him this title
Buffalo: not a lot of choices but Victor Olofsson, just because
Calgary: Rasmus Andersson. A strong top 4 d-man locked up long term at not even 5M per
Carolina: Jaccob Slavin. Dude's an elite shutdown d-man and he doesn't even have a 6M AAV
Chicago: Dominik Kubalik, a very good goal scorer at not even 4M
Colorado: only one good answer here: Nathan MacKinnon, one of the 3 best players in the league (hot take but I'd rather have him that McDavid) and he doesn't even have a 7M AAV
Columbus: not a lot of choices but I gotta go with Jack Roslovic. Established himself as a top sixer while being a cheap player
Dallas: here I gotta go with Hintz. The most underrated center in the league IMO and still has 2 more seasons at not even 4M per
Detroit: Ned. Sorry @Dzinger18
Edmonton: none
Florida: got to be Ekblad, one of the most underrated players in the league, locked up long term and not even 8M per.
LA: not a lot of choices but I like the Iafallo one
Minnesota: Joel Eriksson Ek. One of the most underrated centers in the league, a swiss army knife and someone I compare to Sean Couturier.
Montreal: Tyler Toffoli. Goes without saying
Nashville: not a lot of choices but Ekholm. Strong shutdown number 2-3 d-man who isn't even paid 4M
NJD: MacKenzie Blackwood, a very good young goalie who isn't paid much
NYI: not a lot of choices but Barzal
NYR: Igor. A soon to be elite starter locked up.
Ottawa: could become Tkachuk but right now it's Chabot. He really doesn't get the credit he deserves and is locked up forever.
Philly: come one, it's gotta be Sean Couturier
Pittsburgh: for me it's Sid. Still a beast in his mid 30s and showing 0 signs of decline
SJ: uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... sorry dear @yikes but I can't come up with anything here... Hertl maybe? Then again, it's not a massive bargain like Couturier and he doesn't have term left
STL: ROR. That's it. That's the argument.
TB: Cirelli, such a great 2C who can do it all and still a decent term left at not even 5M
Toronto: gotta be Nylander. One of the only ones who showed up against MTL
Vancouver: uhhhhhhhhhhhh... Horvat? Garland? Demko? Take your pick...
Washington: Idk, no good choices here
Winnipeg: Nikolaj Ehlers, IMO their best skater
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12 août 2021 à 9 h 11
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
I wanted to point something out: I disagree with the generally held opinion that «ToM wIlSoN bRoKe ThE rAnGeRs»

It's untrue. What is true, however, is that Goodrow is slightly overpaid (he's worth 3M, not 3,6) and that we should've gotten more for Buchnevich, but with or without Wilson, we were getting pushed around and this needed fixing. Maybe we slightly overcorrected, but it was a major issue regardless of the Wilson incident.


The only reason people are saying that is because it happened right after the Wilson incident. If it happened before I doubt anyone would say anything if it happened before, but it didn’t and it gave people the excuse of saying that.
12 août 2021 à 9 h 14
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The only reason people are saying that is because it happened right after the Wilson incident. If it happened before I doubt anyone would say anything if it happened before, but it didn’t and it gave people the excuse of saying that.


Precisely
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12 août 2021 à 9 h 24
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The best contract from every team, IMO, ELC excluded:

Anaheim: Hampus Lindholm. If they wanted to sell him, his pretty cheap contract could guarantee a great return
Arizona: Chychrun. Their best player and IMO the most underrated LD-man in the entire league
Boston: Pasta, one of the 3 best goal scorers in the league and he doesn't even have a 7M AAV. McAvoy is a close 2nd but Pasta's term gave him this title
Buffalo: not a lot of choices but Victor Olofsson, just because
Calgary: Rasmus Andersson. A strong top 4 d-man locked up long term at not even 5M per
Carolina: Jaccob Slavin. Dude's an elite shutdown d-man and he doesn't even have a 6M AAV
Chicago: Dominik Kubalik, a very good goal scorer at not even 4M
Colorado: only one good answer here: Nathan MacKinnon, one of the 3 best players in the league (hot take but I'd rather have him that McDavid) and he doesn't even have a 7M AAV
Columbus: not a lot of choices but I gotta go with Jack Roslovic. Established himself as a top sixer while being a cheap player
Dallas: here I gotta go with Hintz. The most underrated center in the league IMO and still has 2 more seasons at not even 4M per
Detroit: Ned. Sorry Dzinger18
Edmonton: none
Florida: got to be Ekblad, one of the most underrated players in the league, locked up long term and not even 8M per.
LA: not a lot of choices but I like the Iafallo one
Minnesota: Joel Eriksson Ek. One of the most underrated centers in the league, a swiss army knife and someone I compare to Sean Couturier.
Montreal: Tyler Toffoli. Goes without saying
Nashville: not a lot of choices but Ekholm. Strong shutdown number 2-3 d-man who isn't even paid 4M
NJD: MacKenzie Blackwood, a very good young goalie who isn't paid much
NYI: not a lot of choices but Barzal
NYR: Igor. A soon to be elite starter locked up.
Ottawa: could become Tkachuk but right now it's Chabot. He really doesn't get the credit he deserves and is locked up forever.
Philly: come one, it's gotta be Sean Couturier
Pittsburgh: for me it's Sid. Still a beast in his mid 30s and showing 0 signs of decline
SJ: uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... sorry dear yikes but I can't come up with anything here... Hertl maybe? Then again, it's not a massive bargain like Couturier and he doesn't have term left
STL: ROR. That's it. That's the argument.
TB: Cirelli, such a great 2C who can do it all and still a decent term left at not even 5M
Toronto: gotta be Nylander. One of the only ones who showed up against MTL
Vancouver: uhhhhhhhhhhhh... Horvat? Garland? Demko? Take your pick...
Washington: Idk, no good choices here
Winnipeg: Nikolaj Ehlers, IMO their best skater


I agree with most of your picks, though some of my personal preferences are:

CGY - Lindholm
FLA - Huberdeau but Ekblad also makes sense
LAK - Kempe or Petersen
TBL - Hedman
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12 août 2021 à 9 h 41
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
The best contract from every team, IMO, ELC excluded:

Anaheim: Hampus Lindholm. If they wanted to sell him, his pretty cheap contract could guarantee a great return
Arizona: Chychrun. Their best player and IMO the most underrated LD-man in the entire league
Boston: Pasta, one of the 3 best goal scorers in the league and he doesn't even have a 7M AAV. McAvoy is a close 2nd but Pasta's term gave him this title
Buffalo: not a lot of choices but Victor Olofsson, just because
Calgary: Rasmus Andersson. A strong top 4 d-man locked up long term at not even 5M per
Carolina: Jaccob Slavin. Dude's an elite shutdown d-man and he doesn't even have a 6M AAV
Chicago: Dominik Kubalik, a very good goal scorer at not even 4M
Colorado: only one good answer here: Nathan MacKinnon, one of the 3 best players in the league (hot take but I'd rather have him that McDavid) and he doesn't even have a 7M AAV
Columbus: not a lot of choices but I gotta go with Jack Roslovic. Established himself as a top sixer while being a cheap player
Dallas: here I gotta go with Hintz. The most underrated center in the league IMO and still has 2 more seasons at not even 4M per
Detroit: Ned. Sorry Dzinger18
Edmonton: none
Florida: got to be Ekblad, one of the most underrated players in the league, locked up long term and not even 8M per.
LA: not a lot of choices but I like the Iafallo one
Minnesota: Joel Eriksson Ek. One of the most underrated centers in the league, a swiss army knife and someone I compare to Sean Couturier.
Montreal: Tyler Toffoli. Goes without saying
Nashville: not a lot of choices but Ekholm. Strong shutdown number 2-3 d-man who isn't even paid 4M
NJD: MacKenzie Blackwood, a very good young goalie who isn't paid much
NYI: not a lot of choices but Barzal
NYR: Igor. A soon to be elite starter locked up.
Ottawa: could become Tkachuk but right now it's Chabot. He really doesn't get the credit he deserves and is locked up forever.
Philly: come one, it's gotta be Sean Couturier
Pittsburgh: for me it's Sid. Still a beast in his mid 30s and showing 0 signs of decline
SJ: uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... sorry dear yikes but I can't come up with anything here... Hertl maybe? Then again, it's not a massive bargain like Couturier and he doesn't have term left
STL: ROR. That's it. That's the argument.
TB: Cirelli, such a great 2C who can do it all and still a decent term left at not even 5M
Toronto: gotta be Nylander. One of the only ones who showed up against MTL
Vancouver: uhhhhhhhhhhhh... Horvat? Garland? Demko? Take your pick...
Washington: Idk, no good choices here
Winnipeg: Nikolaj Ehlers, IMO their best skater


Ehlers is their best skater imo too.
12 août 2021 à 9 h 59
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Why does the Saudia Airlines logo look like the Sabres playing in Florida?
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12 août 2021 à 10 h 8
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
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Why does the Saudia Airlines logo look like the Sabres playing in Florida?


The no team (Buffalo) vs no fans (Florida) logo.
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12 août 2021 à 10 h 16
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
I wanted to point something out: I disagree with the generally held opinion that «ToM wIlSoN bRoKe ThE rAnGeRs»

It's untrue. What is true, however, is that Goodrow is slightly overpaid (he's worth 3M, not 3,6) and that we should've gotten more for Buchnevich, but with or without Wilson, we were getting pushed around and this needed fixing. Maybe we slightly overcorrected, but it was a major issue regardless of the Wilson incident.


The term made the Goodrow contract bad
Buch trade was really bad for the Rangers
Got too many grinders, lost some skilled players

I don't necessarily think Wilson broke the Rangers, but the Wilson situation definitely caused the Rangers to make some of those decisions this offseason
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