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2021 offseason talks thread

9 août 2021 à 16 h 40
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So we’re not counting Makar, Miro, Seth Jones, Nurse etc?


I forgot to mention ELC excluded. Jones' and Nurse's extension kick in next season, so it's technically not a raise starting next season.
9 août 2021 à 16 h 43
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Quoting: SevenLeg
I forgot to mention ELC excluded. Jones' and Nurse's extension kick in next season, so it's technically not a raise starting next season.


Ah I just saw Neddy and Garland and while they weren’t on “ELC’s” they basically were
9 août 2021 à 16 h 58
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So we’re not counting Makar, Miro, Seth Jones, Nurse etc?


He said excluding ELC’s and 2022-2023 contracts
9 août 2021 à 17 h 2
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So we’re not counting Makar, Miro, Seth Jones, Nurse etc?


Nurse and Jones' contracts start next season (22-23)
9 août 2021 à 17 h 6
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And the biggest cap hits decreases :

1- K. Yandle (-$5,450,000)
2- R. Getzlaf (-$5,250,000)
3- D. Stepan (-$5,150,000)
4- R. Suter (-$3,888,462)
5- T. DeAngelo (-$3,800,000)
6- M. Jones (-$3,750,000)
7- M. Staal (-$3,700,000)
8- B. Smith (-$3,550,000)
9- B. Sutter (-$3,250,000)
10- N. Bjugstad (-$3,200,000)
11- M. Perreault (-$3,175,000)
12- M. Johansson (-$3,000,000)
13- D. Helm (-$3,000,000)
14- P. Stastny (-$2,750,000)
15- S. Baertschi (-$2,616,666)
16- R. Murray (-$2,600,000)
17- A. Edler (-$2,500,000)
18- B. Holtby (-$2,300,000)
19- A. Raanta (-$2,250,000)
20- A. Cogliano (-$2,250,000)
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9 août 2021 à 17 h 39
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Quoting: Dzinger18
Teams who have to get under the cap before next season:

Tampa - Almost 7 mil over
Dallas - Just above 4 mil over
Edmonton - A bit above 2 mil over
Montreal - Same as Edmonton
Chicago - About the same as the last two
Toronto - Almost 1.5 mil over
Vegas - 37k over

Teams who have to reach the cap floor before next season:

Buffalo - 7.3 mil under
Ottawa - About the same as Buffalo
Detroit - Almost 4.5 mil under


Sabres can move Eichel to IR
9 août 2021 à 18 h 25
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Sabres can move Eichel to IR


This is probably counting Eichel as there is no offseason LTIR
9 août 2021 à 18 h 46
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9 août 2021 à 18 h 47
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9 août 2021 à 19 h 3
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
This is probably counting Eichel as there is no offseason LTIR


Sign Dahlia and Jokiharju then.
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9 août 2021 à 19 h 24
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Teammates who have controlled scoring chances the most when they were together on the ice (min. 100 minutes) :

Regular Season

1-Pierre-Édouard Bellemare & Logan O'Connor (COL)
2-Pierre-Édouard Bellemare & Matt Calvert (COL)
3-Joel Hanley & Mark Pysyk (DAL)
4-Sam Bennett & Jonathan Huberdeau (FLA)
5-Ethan Bear & Jesse Puljujärvi (EDM)
6-Carter Verhaeghe & Keith Yandle (FLA)
7-Noah Hanifin & Derek Ryan (CGY)
8-Samuel Girard & Jacob MacDonald (COL)
9-André Burakovsky & Jacob MacDonald (COL)
10-Pierre-Édouard Bellemare & Jacob MacDonald (COL)


Playoffs

1-TJ Brodie & Morgan Rielly (TOR)
2-Mitchell Marner & Auston Matthews (TOR)
3-Brendan Gallagher & Artturi Lehkonen (MTL)
4-Zach Hyman & Auston Matthews (TOR)
5-Nicolas Hague & Zach Whitecloud (VGK)
6-Taylor Hall & David Krejci (BOS)
7-Brad Marchand & David Pastrnak (BOS)
8-Matt Grzelcyk & David Pastrnak (BOS)
9-Charlie McAvoy & David Pastrnak (BOS)
10-Phillip Danault & Artturi Lehkonen (MTL)

The moral of the story -- don't mess with Pierre-Édouard Bellemare and Jacob MacDonald
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9 août 2021 à 19 h 43
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Teammates who have controlled scoring chances the most when they were together on the ice (min. 100 minutes) :

Regular Season

1-Pierre-Édouard Bellemare & Logan O'Connor (COL)
2-Pierre-Édouard Bellemare & Matt Calvert (COL)
3-Joel Hanley & Mark Pysyk (DAL)
4-Sam Bennett & Jonathan Huberdeau (FLA)
5-Ethan Bear & Jesse Puljujärvi (EDM)
6-Carter Verhaeghe & Keith Yandle (FLA)
7-Noah Hanifin & Derek Ryan (CGY)
8-Samuel Girard & Jacob MacDonald (COL)
9-André Burakovsky & Jacob MacDonald (COL)
10-Pierre-Édouard Bellemare & Jacob MacDonald (COL)


Playoffs

1-TJ Brodie & Morgan Rielly (TOR)
2-Mitchell Marner & Auston Matthews (TOR)
3-Brendan Gallagher & Artturi Lehkonen (MTL)
4-Zach Hyman & Auston Matthews (TOR)
5-Nicolas Hague & Zach Whitecloud (VGK)
6-Taylor Hall & David Krejci (BOS)
7-Brad Marchand & David Pastrnak (BOS)
8-Matt Grzelcyk & David Pastrnak (BOS)
9-Charlie McAvoy & David Pastrnak (BOS)
10-Phillip Danault & Artturi Lehkonen (MTL)

The moral of the story -- don't mess with Pierre-Édouard Bellemare and Jacob MacDonald


I remember Jfresh posting a chart discussing Macdonald and how he broke him lul


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9 août 2021 à 19 h 44
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Teammates who have controlled scoring chances the most when they were together on the ice (min. 100 minutes) :

Regular Season

1-Pierre-Édouard Bellemare & Logan O'Connor (COL)
2-Pierre-Édouard Bellemare & Matt Calvert (COL)
3-Joel Hanley & Mark Pysyk (DAL)
4-Sam Bennett & Jonathan Huberdeau (FLA)
5-Ethan Bear & Jesse Puljujärvi (EDM)
6-Carter Verhaeghe & Keith Yandle (FLA)
7-Noah Hanifin & Derek Ryan (CGY)
8-Samuel Girard & Jacob MacDonald (COL)
9-André Burakovsky & Jacob MacDonald (COL)
10-Pierre-Édouard Bellemare & Jacob MacDonald (COL)


Playoffs

1-TJ Brodie & Morgan Rielly (TOR)
2-Mitchell Marner & Auston Matthews (TOR)
3-Brendan Gallagher & Artturi Lehkonen (MTL)
4-Zach Hyman & Auston Matthews (TOR)
5-Nicolas Hague & Zach Whitecloud (VGK)
6-Taylor Hall & David Krejci (BOS)
7-Brad Marchand & David Pastrnak (BOS)
8-Matt Grzelcyk & David Pastrnak (BOS)
9-Charlie McAvoy & David Pastrnak (BOS)
10-Phillip Danault & Artturi Lehkonen (MTL)

The moral of the story -- don't mess with Pierre-Édouard Bellemare and Jacob MacDonald


Pierre Edouard Bellemare> McDavid

Is Hughes close to the top of the list?
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9 août 2021 à 19 h 48
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Quoting: Devil1122
Pierre Edouard Bellemare> McDavid

Is Hughes close to the top of the list?


Hughes & Kulikov are the 14th duo of teammates
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9 août 2021 à 19 h 50
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Teammates who have controlled scoring chances the most when they were together on the ice (min. 100 minutes) :

Regular Season

1-Pierre-Édouard Bellemare & Logan O'Connor (COL)
2-Pierre-Édouard Bellemare & Matt Calvert (COL)
3-Joel Hanley & Mark Pysyk (DAL)
4-Sam Bennett & Jonathan Huberdeau (FLA)
5-Ethan Bear & Jesse Puljujärvi (EDM)
6-Carter Verhaeghe & Keith Yandle (FLA)
7-Noah Hanifin & Derek Ryan (CGY)
8-Samuel Girard & Jacob MacDonald (COL)
9-André Burakovsky & Jacob MacDonald (COL)
10-Pierre-Édouard Bellemare & Jacob MacDonald (COL)


Playoffs

1-TJ Brodie & Morgan Rielly (TOR)
2-Mitchell Marner & Auston Matthews (TOR)
3-Brendan Gallagher & Artturi Lehkonen (MTL)
4-Zach Hyman & Auston Matthews (TOR)
5-Nicolas Hague & Zach Whitecloud (VGK)
6-Taylor Hall & David Krejci (BOS)
7-Brad Marchand & David Pastrnak (BOS)
8-Matt Grzelcyk & David Pastrnak (BOS)
9-Charlie McAvoy & David Pastrnak (BOS)
10-Phillip Danault & Artturi Lehkonen (MTL)

The moral of the story -- don't mess with Pierre-Édouard Bellemare and Jacob MacDonald


Where’s Blake Comeau on that list?
9 août 2021 à 19 h 51
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Hughes & Kulikov are the 14th duo of teammates


KULIKOV???
9 août 2021 à 19 h 52
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9 août 2021 à 19 h 53
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Quoting: Devil1122
KULIKOV???


He's the player he has the best stats with. Followed by Bratt & Subban.
9 août 2021 à 19 h 55
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Where’s Blake Comeau on that list?


In 152 minutes with Jason Dickinson, they've controlled 60% of the scoring chances.
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9 août 2021 à 19 h 55
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When he gets to UFA no teams are going to want him. He’s had one good year and he’s maybe going to make McDavid money in the KHL because he’s too salty with the Wild because they aren’t letting him get a high money deal that’ll walk him straight to UFA. He’s damaging his reputation badly.
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9 août 2021 à 19 h 57
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Quoting: SevenLeg
He's the player he has the best stats with. Followed by Bratt & Subban.


I was thinking Hughes would be on the list with Smith or Sharangovich. Kulikov is a strange one. Not too suprised by Subban or Bratt though
9 août 2021 à 19 h 57
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Oof. Sucks when you’re competent with other teams for your RFA, and if you don’t sign him you don’t even get compensation. Minny better hope he prefers playing there than in Russia, because it’s pretty hard to match $10+ million.
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9 août 2021 à 19 h 59
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When he gets to UFA no teams are going to want him. He’s had one good year and he’s maybe going to make McDavid money in the KHL because he’s too salty with the Wild because they aren’t letting him get a high money deal that’ll walk him straight to UFA. He’s damaging his reputation badly.


Well people aren’t going to shy away from him as a UFA. They might not offer what the KHL will offer him, but he’ll have the same market as if he were a normal UFA. Because either he plays for you or he doesn’t, and if he doesn’t his potential suitors lose nothing.
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9 août 2021 à 20 h 10
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Quoting: Dzinger18
Teams who have to get under the cap before next season:

Tampa - Almost 7 mil over
Dallas - Just above 4 mil over
Edmonton - A bit above 2 mil over
Montreal - Same as Edmonton
Chicago - About the same as the last two
Toronto - Almost 1.5 mil over
Vegas - 37k over

Teams who have to reach the cap floor before next season:

Buffalo - 7.3 mil under
Ottawa - About the same as Buffalo
Detroit - Almost 4.5 mil under

Ottawa still has to sign Tkachuk and Batherson, and Tampa is cap compliant after LTIRing Seabrook.
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9 août 2021 à 20 h 17
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Oof, good luck Minny
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