Underrated pick up
I really like this trade

I think Detroit would want a 2nd instead of a 3rd

Red Wings accept

yes please to bernier. i think it's been demonstrated that miska isn't ready for a back up role. i just wish the avs had addressed the 3g role in the offseason when there was more options.

not really interested in glendening but if he's cheap why not.

Wings pass, we aren't taking a cap dump and a 3rd for these 2. Since you don't have a 2nd this will cost something like jost + 3rd or something equivalent. Annunen, kaut, something of that prospect level. 3rd is for lgd alone, bernier at half retained is a 2nd/3rd. Gotta add better to get this package. Compher will also cost you to dump him at that salary for that many years, he is not at all what the wings are looking for in their rebuild and Is a pure dump

The NHL leader at the dot and plays on their PK. Hard to pass up on a piece like that. I think he's every bit as underrated as Bernier.

This would be one of the best TDL moves any GM could make IMO, but Stevie Y knows it too. You'll probably have to give a 2nd for both.

@Richard88 love all these small-ball deals for Avs.
Always original and thoughtful.
But we want to see one Go Big or Go Home ACGM for your for 2021 Avs
C'mon...lets go!

This is terrible for Detroit. One of the best goalies available at the deadline, one of the best 4C's available at the deadline, and take on your cap dump with term for a measly late 3rd??? You should be embarrassed by this offer

This would cost the Avs their 1st, maybe Wings send back a 3rd or something

Yeah, I'm an Avs fan and even I know they'd have to give up more to not only get the Wings to take someone like Compher but also retain. There's probably a GM pool that goes to whomever gets Sakic to part with a 1st but this is the kind of deal that probably requires it.

Richard, you always post realistic proposals but I think the Wings would want more, especially if they're going to take Compher and retain. I think we're going to see within the next month if Sakic really is "all in" on a Cup run and willing to do what it takes to get them over the hump.

The mob take on ACGM is at full out on hate mode for Compher. He’s having a bad season no doubt but he is also a 25yr old bottom 6 guy who has had multiple 30 PT seasons, Glendening is an absolute zero need on the Avs. Also people overvaluing players like Glendening and Bernier is amazing in Covid cap time.

Detroit passes. Glendening plays almost exclusively in defensive situations and he has almost double the points that Compher has. Glendening has a league leading 67.7% face-off win percentage and Compher has a face-off win percentage of 46% which puts him at 110th. In the last 2 seasons Bernier has 21 of Detroit's wins. During that time his GAA has been well below Detroit's average goals allowed per game and his save percentage has been above the teams save percentage. Now I'm not saying Bernier is going to bring in a kings ransom but at this price Detroit is better off keeping him.

Compher isn’t a cap dump, having a bad year sure but he is 25 had 2 30 pt seasons something Glendening has never done. Thinking that or that Bernier and Glendening is worth a 1st is debatable to which is crazier.

Bernier has been pretty solid for a bad team and the Avs need a real backup, not Miska. Compher is having a terrible season and is a non-factor plus he has a $3.5M cap hit. Maybe Bernier and Glendening aren't the right move but this team needs to turn the corner soon. Yes, the injuries totally suck and are having an effect but I could see bringing in a competent backup and a decent 3C giving the team a little jolt.

Oh yeah face off percentage, him leading the league has helped Detroit so much. In fact COL led the league in face off win percentage 4 years ago and finished with 48pts in 82 games. FO win% until they have a key %win stat like on the pk or when winning in the defensive zone in the final 2 minutes with the lead it’s about as useful as +/- probably less. Compher is having a bad year yes he is also had back to back 30 pt seasons something Glendening has never done and is 6 years younger plays not only on the leagues best pk but can play up and down the line up if needed and on the PP. This would be a hard no from COL.

Just trade for Bernier no retention, with EJ moved to LTIR cap space isn’t an issue. A 3rd and a prospect like Beaucage, Kovalenko or Mutula.

I’m all for Bernier and with EJ moved to LTIR it’s imperative to make a goalie move because they have cap flexibility. Just out of curiosity I looked at Compher’s heat maps and he has literally changed completely this season in where he is shorting the majority of his shots from the previous 3 yrs the vast majority of his shots and goals literally came in the low slot this year the majority of his shots have come from the high slot. The flip side is he is having his best season CF% wise being a positive event player at 51.1. I don’t know what led to the change in play but yeah not good.

Compher has always been streaky or scored in bunches so his point totals have been a bit deceptive in terms of his on-ice effectiveness on a game-to-game basis. But now? He's just been bad overall but maybe it's usage or linemates or whatever. Maybe a change of scenery and role would help him out. Apparently, he was held out last night due to a UBI so we'll see how long that lasts.

With the LTIR space, that only lasts until the guy comes back, right? So if they expect Frankie and/or Johnson back in time for the playoffs, they'd have to shed salary somewhere so they're better off trying to get some salary going out.

That's fine I'm 100% ok with Detroit keeping Bernier and Glendening. Which is very likely if this is all they are offered.

No they won’t, Stevie Y will take what he can get from 2 UFA’s and then turn around and possibly bring them back in the off season. 100% the Avs should try and acquire Bernier, they don’t have 2nd’s, they won’t trade a 1st for a rental back up goalie especially one they let walk once already, so what sort of package in your opinion does it take?

avs 4c is already above 60% in the faceoff circle and the avs have a top 5 pk. so glendening isn't fixing anything. so if he's cheap sure but he's not needed. i'd take him for a 5th maybe a 4th but i wouldn't go any higher than that.

Thanks!

Regarding going big, you must have missed my Hertl AGM

Yeah Compher is maddening because he is streaky, and when he is hot he is real hot, but he is at his best using his speed up and down the ice, he isn’t a play driver at all and it feels like the Avs have tried to shoe horn him into that role when it’s obvious he is better on the wing.

Yeah that’s right on LTIR but nobody even knows what’s going on with Francouz, it must have been serious because he hasn’t done an on ice activity that I am aware since the Stars series.

You might be okay with it but there is no reason to not get at least something for them. After all, they can re-sign them in the offseason if they really want them and those two want to come back; hypothetically, the Wings have as good a chance as anyone else to re-sign them if they hit UFA. When you're in the middle of a rebuild, getting assets is better than keeping guys just because you didn't get exactly what you want in return; what good does it do the Wings to keep Bernie and Glendening if they just end up going to UFA anyhow? And if all else fails, they can flip Compher for a low pick or prospect or just buy him out if they don't want him on the team going forward. I mean, there is a lower limit to what you would accept (like two 7ths and bag of pucks) but you could do worse than Compher and a 3rd.

First being able flip a player isn't a selling point it takes away from the value. For Detroit to get fair value in this trade they have to trade a player and hope there is someone is willing to pay the asking price. Now that's just to get to even in a trade they made a season ago. How does that make any sense. Plus if it was that easy to flip him why is he still in Colorado? I'd prefer the Wing's trade Greiss and resign Bernier and with the way they have been playing it might happen. When I said i'm fine keeping Glendening and Bernier I said that because the Wings are better off with them and trading them for Compher and a 4th would make Detroit worse.

I didn't realize he changed the 4th to a 3rd. So throw in another 3rd and you can keep Compher Detroit already has a plethora of bottom 6 forwards.