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Florida Fans Response to the Total Rebuild post

Créé par: VijayPatel11
Équipe: 2020-21 Panthers de la Floride
Date de création initiale: 29 janv. 2021
Publié: 29 janv. 2021
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I personally would not trade Ekblad, I think he is one of the major pieces of our franchise that needs to stay to provide some stability.
I don't think COL and VGK are great landing spots for our two main guys. COL has a lot of star power on the forward front and probably wouldn't need Hubie and VGK doesn't really have the assets to repay us for Barkov.
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FLA
  1. Timmins, Conor
Détails additionnels:
D Pipeline is pretty clogged, I think having Wennberg at 3C and PK would benefit them more than having Timmins on the 3rd pair
COL
  1. Wennberg, Alexander (1 125 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Good 3rd line center, has a history of good defensive and PK play
2.
FLA
  1. Caufield, Cole [Liste de réserve]
  2. Fleury, Cale
  3. Lehkonen, Artturi
  4. Weal, Jordan
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (MTL)
Détails additionnels:
I don't know whether Caufield is "untouchable" or not, but this is about what I would want for a player of Hubey's caliber. I'm sorry if it is too much.
MTL
  1. Huberdeau, Jonathan (2 950 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
I think they are really missing a 1st line winger, and Huberdeau could help them fill that gap (for 3 years on a fantastic deal!)
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FLA
  1. Addison, Calen
  2. Bjugstad, Nick
  3. Boldy, Matthew [Liste de réserve]
  4. Hartman, Ryan
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
Bjug and Hartman for the cap to work. I don't want to trigger anyone so I am not asking for Rossi in return, so Instead I put Boldy. Also, Minny's top 4 seems to be pretty set with all of the long term deals, so I think Addison would be an acceptable ask.
MIN
  1. Barkov, Aleksander
Détails additionnels:
Minny seems like a team that would want a player like Barkov. A legitimate 1st line center would do wonders for their top line and could help take Fiala and Kap to the next level.
4.
FLA
  1. Gostisbehere, Shayne
Détails additionnels:
Rumors, just a possibility, I personally would like for this to happen.
PHI
  1. Yandle, Keith
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (FLA)
5.
FLA
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (CAR)
CAR
  1. Driedger, Chris
Détails additionnels:
Might get taken by Seattle depending on how well he plays, but so far he has looked great.
6.
FLA
OTT
  1. Gudas, Radko
Détails additionnels:
Somewhere, we have too many contracts.
7.
FLA
  1. Eriksson, Loui
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (VAN)
Détails additionnels:
Can take on bad contracts with newfound cap space.
VAN
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2381 500 000 $75 673 788 $0 $850 000 $5 826 212 $
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C, AD
UFA - 1
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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2 533 333 $2 533 333 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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897 500 $897 500 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
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5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 3
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2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
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M-NTC
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AD, AG
UFA - 1
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AD, AG
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
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7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
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10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 6
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
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2 700 000 $2 700 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
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700 000 $700 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
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DG
UFA - 1
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C, AD, AG
UFA - 1
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700 000 $700 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
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925 000 $925 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, C
RFA - 2
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700 000 $700 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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DG/DD
UFA - 1
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AG, AD
UFA - 2
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ (4 425 000 $$4M4 425 000 $$4M)
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29 janv. 2021 à 10 h 33
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if yur rebuilding your not doing those trades for barkov and huberdeau


your giving away 2 great players for some scrap guys ok prospects and first round picks
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29 janv. 2021 à 10 h 34
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You could get way better deals for Huberdeau and Barkov. They are arguably top 10-15 in the entire league for their positions. If that’s all you want for a retained Huberdeau then I hope the Oilers make a huge push for him.
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29 janv. 2021 à 10 h 36
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In what universe is Driedger worth a 2nd?
29 janv. 2021 à 10 h 36
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You could get way better deals for Huberdeau and Barkov. They are arguably top 10-15 in the entire league for their positions. If that’s all you want for a retained Huberdeau then I hope the Oilers make a huge push for him.


I didn't want to get flamed so I kind of lowballed the bigger trades
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29 janv. 2021 à 10 h 37
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Caufield is mostly untouchable, but if we’re getting Huberdeau at 50% retained, he’s definitely available.
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29 janv. 2021 à 10 h 39
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I'd do Graves for Wennberg, but Timmins has value to us in the 2-way contract and ELC. Easy to move in and out of the lineup this year.
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29 janv. 2021 à 10 h 41
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You are way underselling a top 10 W and top 10 C in their prime and on good contracts
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29 janv. 2021 à 10 h 50
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Massive no from the Avalanche.
We are not going to give you a high end defenseman for Wennberg. I get it Wennberg is a good player and a good 3C but he got bought out for a reason and is definitely not worth Timmins.
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29 janv. 2021 à 10 h 53
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In no way does Wennberg get you timmins
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29 janv. 2021 à 10 h 56
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Lmfao wow u completely gutted this team
29 janv. 2021 à 11 h 0
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Quoting: coga16
In no way does Wennberg get you timmins


0 points, liability in all areas so far. You got yourself a real elite prospect there. Has there ever been a trade that you've liked? Every single post I see you in you are bashing the author of the acgm...
29 janv. 2021 à 11 h 2
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Quoting: VijayPatel11
0 points, liability in all areas so far. You got yourself a real elite prospect there. Has there ever been a trade that you've liked? Every single post I see you in you are bashing the author of the acgm...


liability in all areas? Dude dont get defensive about your trade by attacking and making up stuff about the player to justify your trade
I have lots of healthy discourse about trades that are fair and good for the Avs, now attacking me bc you dont like that avs fans are not agreeing with your trade....tsk tsk
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29 janv. 2021 à 11 h 5
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Lmfao wow u completely gutted this team


I have been conditioned to undersell on my acgms because I keep getting picked apart in the comments...
Guess I undersold too much here
29 janv. 2021 à 11 h 6
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liability in all areas? Dude dont get defensive about your trade by attacking and making up stuff about the player to justify your trade
I have lots of healthy discourse about trades that are fair and good for the Avs, now attacking me bc you dont like that avs fans are not agreeing with your trade....tsk tsk


for what its worth i think the concussion/injury history behind timmins is no joke and as good as his ceiling could be, he has an equally devastatingly low floor.
29 janv. 2021 à 11 h 8
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If Wild countered Boldy, Dumba, Penguins 1st and a good forward prospect would you do the Barkov deal? Reason being your current deal would likely cause the Wild to lose Ek in ED.
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29 janv. 2021 à 11 h 14
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If Wild countered Boldy, Dumba, Penguins 1st and a good forward prospect would you do the Barkov deal? Reason being your current deal would likely cause the Wild to lose Ek in ED.


Who would the forward be? Like beckman or something? I would probably accept but I'm not sure anymore
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29 janv. 2021 à 11 h 15
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for what its worth i think the concussion/injury history behind timmins is no joke and as good as his ceiling could be, he has an equally devastatingly low floor.


Concussion injury sure, it was a scary one but he does seem to have turned the corner on it, it doesnt limit him from playing the game the way he used to.
I dont really believe there is an injury history to be concerned about, he got hurt last season int he AHL, shoulder and it was fine required no surgery or anything. Players get banged up and if we start labeling every player with an injury history bc they miss time here or there bc of non surgery injuries then the whole league is injury prone
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29 janv. 2021 à 11 h 22
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Concussion injury sure, it was a scary one but he does seem to have turned the corner on it, it doesnt limit him from playing the game the way he used to.
I dont really believe there is an injury history to be concerned about, he got hurt last season int he AHL, shoulder and it was fine required no surgery or anything. Players get banged up and if we start labeling every player with an injury history bc they miss time here or there bc of non surgery injuries then the whole league is injury prone


yeah but when you miss 2 years immediately with injuries then get buried on the depth chart it doesnt look great for prospect outlook. Timmins looks like he could be a great nhl dman but i mean look at a guy like ferland or loui eriksson. a concussion or 2 more after a really scary one and he might not recover from it. mentally or physically.
29 janv. 2021 à 11 h 28
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yeah but when you miss 2 years immediately with injuries then get buried on the depth chart it doesnt look great for prospect outlook. Timmins looks like he could be a great nhl dman but i mean look at a guy like ferland or loui eriksson. a concussion or 2 more after a really scary one and he might not recover from it. mentally or physically.


or he could overcome a concussion issue like Crosby who missed significant time bc of it and never looked back once he got healthy
From what we can tell to date as fans, and really its not of our business to speculate how prone a guy is to a concussion, he seems to be healthy and has no limitations from.
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29 janv. 2021 à 11 h 31
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or he could overcome a concussion issue like Crosby who missed significant time bc of it and never looked back once he got healthy
From what we can tell to date as fans, and really its not of our business to speculate how prone a guy is to a concussion, he seems to be healthy and has no limitations from.


i mean sure but everyones different. if bergeron didnt have a nasty concussion early on in his career i think he has a much higher scoring output. I think its fair to say scary brain injuries bring up red flags in trade discussions. who knows what his value is tbh avs are loaded at d. im kinda shocked they didnt move him for scoring depth yet.
29 janv. 2021 à 11 h 38
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Surely if FLA start to rebuild then they keep the still comparatively young Huberdeau & Barkov to build around.....jus' sayin'!
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29 janv. 2021 à 11 h 38
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i mean sure but everyones different. if bergeron didnt have a nasty concussion early on in his career i think he has a much higher scoring output. I think its fair to say scary brain injuries bring up red flags in trade discussions. who knows what his value is tbh avs are loaded at d. im kinda shocked they didnt move him for scoring depth yet.


avs dont need scoring depth. They have one of the top offences in the league in terms of Goals For last year, and this year again one of the top teams. They have the scoring depth.
Timmins fills a very important role for the teams build going forward. He balances the RHS side and he will fil a void once Graves is selected from the expansion draft or is traded. Timmins on his cheaper contract fills Graves spot with ease
29 janv. 2021 à 12 h 5
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Massive no from the Avalanche.
We are not going to give you a high end defenseman for Wennberg. I get it Wennberg is a good player and a good 3C but he got bought out for a reason and is definitely not worth Timmins.


Timmins is more high end prospect, or young player. Not really proven himself as a top NHL defenseman.

Certainly worth more than a pending UFA depth C though
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29 janv. 2021 à 12 h 23
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How many FLA fans use this site?

For the MN trade: Addison+Boldy+1st are too much for a rental+1 Barkov. They aren't in a 2-3 year Cup window where Barkov is the missing piece that will push them over the top.

It's more about timing (the expansion draft is another concern here) than value for this trade from the MN side. It would be great to have Barkov on the team. He's exactly what they need, but if he walks as a UFA MN shot themselves in both feet with the trade.
29 janv. 2021 à 16 h 25
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Who would the forward be? Like beckman or something? I would probably accept but I'm not sure anymore


I was thinking Beckman or Khovanov possibly could be talked into Khusnutdinov.
 
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