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If Dubois is Really Available Leafs Should Take Shot

Créé par: MG1986
Date de création initiale: jan 18, 2021
Publié: 18 jan à 14 h 48
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Explications
As this is my first AGM of 2021, first, I'd like to say hi to you all in the CapFriendly community and I wish all of you to a healthy, safe and wonderful 2021!

Second, I'd like to preface this AGM on the assumption that Pierre-Luc Dubois is truly available. He may, he may not, but if he truly is, I think the Leafs have to at least try, right? In theory, the Blue Jackets and Leafs match up well, however the caveat is both the quarantining issue this season and the fact that the Leafs are super tight against the cap.

As a side note, I would consider Nick Robertson and Rasmus Sandin pretty untouchable as far as Leafs' prospects are concerned.

Regardless, let's take a shot. As always, looking forward to your thoughts, comments, feedback and critiques :)
Transactions
TOR
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc
  2. Robinson, Eric
  3. Dubinsky, Brandon
CBJ
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
  2. Engvall, Pierre
  3. Liljegren, Timothy
  4. Niemelä, Topi [Liste de réserve]
  5. 2021 1e round pick (TOR)
Rachats de contrats
  • Mikhail Grabovski: 0 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2081 500 000 $82 271 408 $0 $0 $-771 408 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
TOR
Hyman, Zach
2 250 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Matthews, Auston
11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 4
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 5
TOR
Vesey, Jimmy
900 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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Tavares, John
11 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
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Nylander, William
6 962 366 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
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Mikheyev, Ilya
1 645 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
CBJ
Dubois, Pierre-Luc
5 000 000 $
C
RFA - 2
TOR
Simmonds, Wayne
1 500 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 1
CBJ
Robinson, Eric
975 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
TOR
Thornton, Joe
700 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 1
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Spezza, Jason
700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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Muzzin, Jake
5 625 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 4
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Brodie, TJ
5 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
5 000 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 1
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Rielly, Morgan
5 000 000 $
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NTC
UFA - 2
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Holl, Justin
2 000 000 $
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NTC
UFA - 3
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Campbell, Jack
1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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Dermott, Travis
874 125 $
DG
RFA - 1
TOR
Lehtonen, Mikko
925 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
TOR
Robertson, Nicholas
821 667 $
AG
RFA - 3
CBJ
Dubinsky, Brandon
5 850 000 $
C, AG
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
TOR
Barabanov, Alexander
925 000 $ (0 $)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
894 167 $ (0 $)
DG
RFA - 2
TOR
Boyd, Travis
700 000 $ (0 $)
C, AD
UFA - 1
TOR
Bogosian, Zach
1 000 000 $ (0 $)
DD
NTC
UFA - 1

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18 jan à 14 h 50
#1
JRob for Calder
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No from CBJ, a lot of other teams can beat that offer.
dzad96, Lenny7 et SalamiCheese a aimé ceci.
18 jan à 14 h 51
#2
Pistol Pete
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Quoting: EsoYeezus69
No from CBJ, a lot of other teams can beat that offer.


if you can't win with the centers you have PLD isn't going to make a difference.
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18 jan à 14 h 52
#3
Leafs Sufferer
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If you want PLD, one of the big 4 is going. I would imagine CBJ would want a C coming back, which isn't going to happen.

Toronto and Columbus are not good trading partners for PLD.
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18 jan à 14 h 54
#4
Not JoshAnderson17
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If you're going to have him, put him on LW
18 jan à 14 h 54
#5
best poster
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Toronto should really only be offering to raise the price for divisional rivals.

PLD just makes the team top heavier and eats cash that could be distributed to other areas of the team. Centre isn't an area of concern.
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18 jan à 14 h 55
#6
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I wonder how many teams are actually in on PLD, I am not saying he would but there is the possibility that he doesn't report to certain teams after saying he wants a big market and would love to play for Montreal. That really could be why Jarmo is not getting the offers he would like. I mean there is the risk that he walks in FA in 4 years, or like I said above not report if a team like Arizona traded for him.
18 jan à 14 h 56
#7
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LOL. Thinking they can trade crap for a good young player. Kerfoot is horrible and not many want him at his AAV.
18 jan à 14 h 56
#8
Banni
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Modifié 18 jan à 15 h 18
Jackets would likely want Marner in a deal with them trying to offersheet him before. To which I think Leafs turn down in a heartbeat.

Dubois doesn't really fit in Toronto. He'd be a 3C as he's stated before he wants to remain at centre, and with his contract coming up soon he'd be too expensive for 3C. Columbus could look to get a younger, cheaper asset for him. I don't see the teams being good trade partners at all.
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18 jan à 14 h 57
#9
Banni
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Quoting: Zuki9797
If you're going to have him, put him on LW


He's stated before that he wants to play centre, not the wing. Moving him would just piss him off to start with
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18 jan à 14 h 57
#10
Moderators Are Soft
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Quoting: Ritzy
If you want PLD, one of the big 4 is going. I would imagine CBJ would want a C coming back, which isn't going to happen.

Toronto and Columbus are not good trading partners for PLD.


This ^
18 jan à 14 h 58
#11
Go Wings Go
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Dude you're not even close here on PLD, Where's the comparable Center that Jarmo will want in return for PLD? And he's going to be an extremely expensive #3C in Toronto.
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18 jan à 14 h 58
#12
Moderators Are Soft
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Quoting: milehigh11
LOL. Thinking they can trade crap for a good young player. Kerfoot is horrible and not many want him at his AAV.


Delusional *
18 jan à 14 h 58
#13
Melnyk_0ut
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If you're trading for PLD, Robertson and Sandin are not untouchables. Typical Leafs fans way overhyping these prospects.
18 jan à 15 h 00
#14
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Good luck paying him in 2 years. Don't think that's enough for him anyways
18 jan à 15 h 03
#15
Bar up
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This would be fantastic
18 jan à 15 h 04
#16
Lenny7
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Quoting: Campabee
I wonder how many teams are actually in on PLD, I am not saying he would but there is the possibility that he doesn't report to certain teams after saying he wants a big market and would love to play for Montreal. That really could be why Jarmo is not getting the offers he would like. I mean there is the risk that he walks in FA in 4 years, or like I said above not report if a team like Arizona traded for him.


Honestly, I have absolutely no idea what offers Jarmo is getting, but it's only been like 2 weeks since Jarmo went public with this. There's absolutely zero reason for him to rush the process, and I can't imagine he will.

As for whether he'll report to certain teams-I see no reason why not. I mean, I can't see teams like Florida, Arizona, etc (Super small market teams) being in on him in the first place. At the end of the day, he'll be traded to wherever the Blue Jackets/Jarmo get the best offer from.
18 jan à 15 h 11
#17
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Quoting: Lenny7
Honestly, I have absolutely no idea what offers Jarmo is getting, but it's only been like 2 weeks since Jarmo went public with this. There's absolutely zero reason for him to rush the process, and I can't imagine he will.

As for whether he'll report to certain teams-I see no reason why not. I mean, I can't see teams like Florida, Arizona, etc (Super small market teams) being in on him in the first place. At the end of the day, he'll be traded to wherever the Blue Jackets/Jarmo get the best offer from.


I wasn't saying he wouldn't report, I was asking if that fear of him not reporting would take some teams out of the running or perhaps simply he reports and only signs for 2 more years after his current contract so that he can just walk in FA. You would have to think teams are already considering both scenario's.
18 jan à 15 h 58
#18
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So you offered a huge pile of **** for Dubois.
18 jan à 16 h 06
#19
best poster
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Quoting: kscoop
So you offered a huge pile of **** for Dubois.


Hey man, at least it wasn't Studnicka, Vaakanainen, Bjork and a late 1st.
18 jan à 16 h 25
#20
BorisBagel
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Leafs add Marner, but can keep Engvall and Niemelä
18 jan à 16 h 51
#21
LongtimeLeafsufferer
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Gee, when I see Dubinsky in a trade, I know the author isn't serious. So the Leafs will going with 19 man roster? C'mon man.
19 jan à 8 h 25
#22
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Quoting: mondo
Hey man, at least it wasn't Studnicka, Vaakanainen, Bjork and a late 1st.


The way the Bruins are playing a high 1st.
20 jan à 5 h 20
#23
Démarrer sujet
#LeafsFever
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Quoting: palhal
Gee, when I see Dubinsky in a trade, I know the author isn't serious. So the Leafs will going with 19 man roster? C'mon man.


Always nice to hear from you @palhal even when we completely disagree smile Happy 2021 to you.
20 jan à 9 h 16
#24
LongtimeLeafsufferer
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Quoting: MG1986
Always nice to hear from you @palhal even when we completely disagree smile Happy 2021 to you.


Thanks for the good wishes MG. It's unlike any New Year, I have ever seen. Looking forward to Sunday, two NFL games (including my Bills) and the Leafs.
Best wishes to you. Could be the Leafs best shot to make the final four this season.
20 jan à 15 h 25
#25
Démarrer sujet
#LeafsFever
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Quoting: palhal
Thanks for the good wishes MG. It's unlike any New Year, I have ever seen. Looking forward to Sunday, two NFL games (including my Bills) and the Leafs.
Best wishes to you. Could be the Leafs best shot to make the final four this season.


Thank you @palhal, could be with the new divisional structure and playoff format, but I think some major changes are on the for the horizon for this team as I am not even completely sure this team, in it's current form, gets into the top-4 in the North Division with how inconsistent their team defense has been so far (through only 4 games, mind you).
 
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