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Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 14 heures
Sujet: boeser brodin
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SevenLeg</b></div><div>That's bad for the Canucks</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>boknowshockey53</b></div><div>Vancouver blocks your number</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lord_Simek</b></div><div>Yeah this is a pretty one-sided trade for Minnesota.</div></div>

I'm not sure if you all realize how good Brodin is. He was our best defenseman last year, which is saying a lot considering our blue line. Since you probably won't believe me as a Wild fan, here's a quote from one of The Athletic's national coverage writers, <a href="https://theathletic.com/1619390/2020/02/19/resetting-the-defenseman-trade-market-who-is-still-shopping-and-who-are-the-best-options/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Dom Luszczyszyn</a>, regarding Brodin (quote is from an article just before the trade deadline):

"If I’m a team right now I’m probably going hard after a guy like Jonas Brodin who is for my money probably one of the best defensive defensemen on the planet. He will be hard to pry out if Minnesota, but he’s worth the price, especially since he comes with term on a reasonably cheap deal – he has one more season with a $4.17 million cap hit. No one else available will provide the impact Brodin does."
Forum: Trade Machine Proposalsil y a 16 heures
Sujet: Dumba Scenario 20 I sent people down for cap reasons
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>reelkena</b></div><div>Does this mean Dumba is only getting traded as a piece for a better player if you dont need forwards defense or picks?</div></div>

Potentially, I guess it depends on how good you think Dumba is. I do think we only move him for a center, or for a package of something like a first this year and a really promising center prospect that's nearly NHL ready. A lot of Leafs fans think he's a #4/5D that can't defend for his life but that's not the case at all. He had a rough year this year but it was completely in his head. Dumba's problem is he needs to be scoring in order to be good in his own zone. When he's not scoring he forces plays and makes bad reads which causes him to look bad (much like Gardiner did). When he's producing, he's a really good two-way player and belongs on the top pairing but his value is at an all-time low after the season he had.
Forum: Trade Machine Proposalsil y a 16 heures
Sujet: Dumba Scenario 20 I sent people down for cap reasons
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>reelkena</b></div><div>Holy ****, a reasonable rebuttal that goes against what I thought. I will look into Min's needs and reevaluate my position. Take notes other people. Disagreeing with reasons is better than "nope, not doing this" all the time.</div></div>

Our biggest needs are a good center and possibly goaltending. We have great blue liners (Suter, Spurgeon, Brodin, Dumba, and Soucy all belong in the top 4) and good but not great wingers aside from Fiala and potentially Kaprizov. Koivu will most likely retire so right now we're looking at 1 year of Staal, Eriksson Ek (who is good but more of a defensive middle 6 C), Rask (belongs in the AHL), and Sturm (probably our 4C next year). Not exactly an inspiring group, lol.

Also I didn't mean to come off as an ass but rereading my comment I kind of did, so my apologies. I'm just a little sick of all the Toronto threads where we get some combination of Kapanen/Johnsson/Dermott, Kerfoot, and another add like a pick.
Forum: Trade Machine Proposalsil y a 16 heures
Sujet: Dumba Scenario 20 I sent people down for cap reasons
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>reelkena</b></div><div>If you can convince Dubas that the first isn't gonna be high because this team is gonna stomp. (which I think is the case) You could pull this off. I like it. 9/10</div></div>

I disagree completely that the Leafs could pull this off, highly doubt Guerin takes this package. For one, we have zero need for more wingers since we have 10 top 9 wings with Kaprizov coming. For two, the whole reason we'd trade Dumba is because we have too many top 4 D, we don't need Lehtonen or Dermott. Finally, our owner wants to contend every year and making a trade for a 2021 pick does not accomplish that. I was honestly shocked he let Guerin move Zucker for a first this year.

The Wild need centers desperately and by all reports the ask for Dumba at the trade deadline was a top line center or a top 6 center + at the trade deadline. The Leafs (obviously) aren't moving Matthews or Tavares (and especially not for Dumba), so there isn't a trade to be made between the Wild and the Leafs unless a third team is involved and we end up with a good center.
Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 11:40 pm
Sujet: Cirelli offer sheet plus TOR trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Yeah I was thinking of an idea of a 3 step trade between Nashville-Toronto-Minnesota and it would be like (Kerfoot and a 4th) for (Turris and a 3rd) then Toronto trades Turris and Holl to Minissota for Dumba with salary retained (1.5millish) and a 6th pick. Minissota gets a local player and a 2c and Toronto gets a partner for Rielly. Was originally gonna try for Spurgeon (leafs would add) but just couldnt get the cap to work.In general, Minissota gets a 2nd Center who could do with a new team, Toronto gets a RHD, and Nashville gets a cheaper 3c to replace turris. As for who replaces kerfoot. Leafs make a seperate trade later.

So the lines would be like

Parise-Stall-Fiala
Krill-Turris-Zucurrelo
Greenway- Joel-Kunin
Folingo-Nico-Ryan</div></div>

That's a bad deal for MN... Id rather just keep Dumba. Dumba was sensational the year he got injured (easily a top pairing player), this year it was all in his head but you could clearly see he still had it. I know Leafs fans think he's horrible defensively but that's not the case at all. When he's producing offense he's actually really good in his own zone, but this year he was trying to force plays in the offensive zone and it let to bad mistakes. Like I said, it was just all in his head this year.
Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 11:12 pm
Sujet: Cirelli offer sheet plus TOR trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Leafs would probs say no unless all other attempts to get a RD failed. Leafs drafted Pateryn back in 2008 and got traded for Grabovski. Great guy and player to bad he was in the wrong leafs era. While I like Greenway (we have his bro in reserve) I just dont see Dubas moving Kapenan unless its makes the team better than it already is. Leafs have wing depth for days so I dont see Dubas making a trade for a wing. Its not a bad trade but from where I see it Dubas will probs be looking for a partner for Rielly</div></div>

That's fair! After I submitted the post my thought was that Leafs fans would prefer a Kapanen deal centered around a solid RD with possibly a depth forward and not the other way around like I have here.