26 jun 2017
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>I stand corrected. You know I cite you as the authority on the Wild.</div></div>
Let me put it this way: Guerin was interested in Trocheck at the deadline and Florida was interested in Brodin, but no deal was made. Similarly, Montreal was interested in one of our defenseman and reportedly were willing to give up Domi to get one but no deal was made. So if Trocheck and Domi didn't get a deal done for Brodin or Dumba, it's going to take quite a bit to get them. A lot of people don't realize how good Brodin is, he's one of those guys you have to watch a few games to see just how impactful he is. To help since we aren't able to watch hockey, <a href="https://theathletic.com/1619390/2020/02/19/resetting-the-defenseman-trade-market-who-is-still-shopping-and-who-are-the-best-options/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">here's a quote</a> from the Athletic's top statistical writer Dom Luszczyszyn (try saying that 10 times fast) about Brodin at the trade deadline:
"It’s no wonder the prices are all out of whack for defenders during the deadline: With six days left the market is basically already dry, especially for rentals.
If I’m a team right now I’m probably going hard after a guy like <strong>Jonas Brodin who is for my money probably one of the best defensive defensemen on the planet. </strong>He will be hard to pry out if Minnesota, but he’s worth the price, especially since he comes with term on a reasonably cheap deal – he has one more season with a $4.17 million cap hit. <strong>No one else available will provide the impact Brodin does.</strong>"
He's also for my money the best skater on the Wild. Not the fastest, but the best. The way he fluidly moves around the ice is a spectacle. Next time you see him play watch him defend against the rush, it's a little funky but it gives you an idea of how well he can skate and cover the ice defensively through his movement. I might actually have a link to an article that goes over it... Give me a bit
Edit: <a href="https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.habseyesontheprize.com/platform/amp/analysis/2020/2/18/21139994/jonas-brodin-trade-rumours-matt-dumba-montreal-canadiens-minnesota-wild-trade-deadline-analysis" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Got it! </a> It goes over Brodin and Dumba's play styles but also covers Brodin's movement.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xqb15</b></div><div>Tampa says no to that, it makes them significantly weaker up front while not giving them any cap relief it actually puts them in a bigger hole.</div></div>
How does it put them in a bigger hole? Dumba makes $6M, Donato makes $1.9M and Mayhew makes $700k for a total of $8.6M. TJ makes $5M and it's safe to assume Cirelli will make over $3.6M... That would only help Tampa.
As for your other comment, Johnson wasn't anything special last year and Stammer can still play center to fill in for Cirelli. Yes, they'd lose some offense, but Tampa needs help on the right side and the point of making trades is to fill in holes by trading from positions of strength. That's exactly what they do here. They still have Kucherov, Point, Stamkos, and Killorn and they'd be able to give Raddysh, Donato, or Mayhew a legitimate shot in the top 6. Donato scored 14 goals in 62 games averaging 10 minutes a night for the Wild. He's a talented player, we just don't have room for him with Kaprizov and Parise and I think his game would be better served in the east. Mayhew may surprise in Tampa as well, he had 39 goals in 49 AHL games which is nothing to scoff at. I think he could be a 20 goal scorer in the right circumstances but like Donato we just don't have room for him with Fiala and Zuccarello.
Forum: NHLSun at 12:29 pm <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>I know I'm in the minority here, but I just wouldn't pick Byfield unless my first 5 choices were all gone, even though he's clearly the best center and may be the second-"best" player in the draft. With Zegras, Steel, Lundestrom and Groulx in the fold already, I'd rather draft a winger and hope he turns into the next Leon Draisaitl or David Pastrnak, than draft Byfield and hope he turns into the next Jack Eichel.</div></div>
I think teams should always take the best player available and Byfield is clearly at least the 3rd best player in the draft, if not the 2nd. Worst case scenario you move Zegras to the wing and have Byfield as a center or you trade one of your forwards to fill the position you need. Think of it this way: if you're Arizona, in hindsight for 2015 would you rather have drafted Strome or Marner? Cause some scouts (Bob McKenzie for one) had Marner as the better prospect but Arizona drafted for need.
My personal rankings (not including Askarov cause I'm bad at evaluating goalies) are:
2. Stutzle (carbon copy of Panarin IMO)
10. Either Jarvis, Mercer, or Quinn