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Forum: Toronto Maple Leafsil y a 19 heures
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MitchMarnerElite </b></div><div><a href="/users/aadoyle" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@aadoyle</a> <a href="/users/TheLeafsSeason" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><a href="/users/TheLeafsSeason" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@TheLeafsSeason</a></a> <a href="/users/draft_em_sign_em_trade_em" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@draft_em_sign_em_trade_em</a> <a href="/users/leafs_and_sens_fan" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@leafs_and_sens_fan</a> <a href="/users/palhal" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@palhal</a> <a href="/users/leafsfanforsomereason" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@leafsfanforsomereason</a>
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Please give my post description a read &amp; let me know your thoughts on my take in regards to Mitch Marner. Would you be inclined to trade him?

(Don't quote this post).</div></div>

I don't understand. So he's your favourite player, but you want him gone for all the reasons you mentioned in your post? Seems so counter intuitive, like you should move on to another player as your favourite if you keep with these discussions and AGMs. More of a suggestion there, then anything else, because you are clearly entitled to do whatever it is you want to do.

So to your overall premise, I disagree. I don't think he's unliked, I don't think he's a dressing room issue, and I don't think he's outdone his time in Toronto. As I have mentioned to you previously on several of your AGMs you've tagged me in, Mitch shows more effort then at least half of the forwards, as far as backchecking - we need more of that, not less of that. He does a pretty good on the PK, all things considered, and again, we need more of that, not less of that. As offensively gifted as a player like Nylander is, I would take Mitch all day. Sure, the cap hit is rough, and his bonus schedule makes his contract virtually untradeable, especially if you want fair market value.

As far as your deal goes, that's absolutely a terrible terrible trade for Toronto. It's almost as if you are just sticking Toronto with random pieces and an old guy for a cap dump (Johnsson) in order to get him on the Pens. So not only in your scenario are the Leafs selling low, they are also not helping themselves in any clear area of play they need to upgrade.

As far as I am concerned, there is absolutely no reason to trade Mitch Marner, and I would go so far as to say, that as long as Dubas in the GM, I doubt Marner moves anywhere. For the sake of these AGMs and threads though, unless you can work out a deal that's fair for Toronto, I really see no reason to further discuss this. Kapanen, Johnsson, Kerfoot and Nylander will be long gone in my opinion before Marner goes anywhere, and that is a testament both to his skill, how he's valued on this team, and to his massive contract that, once again, you will have a very tough moving if you hope to get fair market value for him in a trade.
Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 2:31 pm
Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 11:32 pm
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Capitalfail67</b></div><div>if you read Carefully i said " a guy youll use as a #1 RHD" never claimed he was a #1 RHD but hes a top 4 RHD and AJ is a bottom 6 player. hes a good bottom 6 but none the less hes a bottom 6 player. long story short AJ will come very cheap or will be a hard sell after a down year and a serious injury. CBj would have little interest in him. you more than likely will trade him to a team willing to take a risk for 3rd round pick but if you think hes a top 6 player god bless you.

dont forget that they are also asking to retain 2million on his contract which is also insane.... and not properly accounted for</div></div>

Oh don't you worry, I read your post extremely carefully and noted how you phrased your comment, which is why I through Cody Ceci right at you, because he's been a guy the Leafs have "used as a #1 RHD at times". Andreas Johnsson is not a bottom-6. During his first full NHL season, he scored 20 goals, and that was last year. The kid is only 25 and was injured at what normally would have been about the half-way point during this season. Nothing about his NHL game so far, potential, or actual play during his sample size, has ever indicated he's nothing but a top-6 forward. A team wouldn't make a trade for an injured player, and guys with bigger injury histories get dealt all the time. Any sort of deal involving Johnsson would probably be pending a physical, but honestly, that's no reason his value gets diminished.
Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 11:26 pm
Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 1:54 pm
Forum: Armchair-GM29 jui à 2 h 18
Forum: Armchair-GM20 jui à 18 h 56
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MitchMarnerElite </b></div><div><a href="/users/leafs101" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@leafs101</a> <a href="/users/keep_ups12" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@keep_ups12</a> <a href="/users/jack_" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@jack_</a> <a href="/users/aadoyle" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@aadoyle</a> <a href="/users/TheLeafsSeason" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><a href="/users/TheLeafsSeason" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@TheLeafsSeason</a></a> <a href="/users/Boomer125" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Boomer125</a> <a href="/users/draft_em_sign_em_trade_em" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@draft_em_sign_em_trade_em</a> <a href="/users/leafs_and_sens_fan" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@leafs_and_sens_fan</a> <a href="/users/palhal" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@palhal</a> <a href="/users/PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</a> <a href="/users/leafsfanforsomereason" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@leafsfanforsomereason</a>
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What'd you guys think of this team? Are they contender level?</div></div>

I do not think this team you've put together is anything more of a "contender" then our current iteration of this team that will be shortly competing in the RTP. In a lot of ways similar to Matt Roy, Mackenzie Weegar provides Leaf fans with the "flashy numbers" they are looking for as far as a low-cost right-handed defender that can play decent minutes, hits and blocks. I honestly don't think he's an option, solely because of Florida? Like why would they want to let a good young defender go, especially to a division rival, and especially when they are going to have to make some big decisions over the next few years with contracts expiring. So why would Florida agree to part with a young piece unless it's an overpay, something I think the Leafs should avoid doing as best they can. To me, your deal is a clear overpay to a defender solely based on potential and handedness. I really don't think the Leafs can afford to part with their 2021 1st for anything less that a true top-4, and I would consider Weegar as a top-4 yet. This is besides the fact that I would guess any deal between these clubs for Weegar would start with Liljegren going the other way. Would the Leafs do that? Doubtful. In my mind, this deal would more than get you Ryan Graves or Philippe Myers, both of whom, to varrying degrees, offers may more potential and benefits than does Weegar. In my opinion, I think the Leafs have a much better chance of landing a player like Erik Cernak, a right-handed gritty defender from a divisional rival, than Mackenzie Weegar. As for the rest of this AGM, I really do not trust that backend, and Spezza as a 3C? I don't really love it.
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs18 jui à 13 h 53
Forum: Armchair-GM18 jui à 13 h 51
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MitchMarnerElite </b></div><div><a href="/users/leafs101" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@leafs101</a> <a href="/users/keep_ups12" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@keep_ups12</a> <a href="/users/jack_" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@jack_</a> <a href="/users/aadoyle" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@aadoyle</a> <a href="/users/TheLeafsSeason" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><a href="/users/TheLeafsSeason" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@TheLeafsSeason</a></a> <a href="/users/Boomer125" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Boomer125</a> <a href="/users/draft_em_sign_em_trade_em" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@draft_em_sign_em_trade_em</a> <a href="/users/SammyT_51" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@SammyT_51</a> <a href="/users/leafs_and_sens_fan" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@leafs_and_sens_fan</a> <a href="/users/palhal" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@palhal</a> <a href="/users/PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</a> <a href="/users/leafsfanforsomereason" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@leafsfanforsomereason</a>
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What'd you guys think of this Ceci situation?</div></div>

My sense is that Ceci will get at least 2 games in the play-in, provided that he looks decent enough in the intrasquad games and exhibition. I think if it were up to Dubas, Ceci would be a guarantee, but luckily for Leafs fans, he's not our coach. I think the same goes for Robertson as it does for Sandin. If the youngsters prove they are worthy of a lineup spot, Keefe (at least based on what's he said in the media) will make that happen. It would not surprise me at all to see the Leafs go 7 defenders at some point and bench one of the depth guys, like Gauthier or Engvall.
Forum: Armchair-GM16 jui à 3 h 31
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MitchMarnerElite </b></div><div><a href="/users/leafs101" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@leafs101</a> <a href="/users/keep_ups12" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@keep_ups12</a> <a href="/users/jack_" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@jack_</a> <a href="/users/aadoyle" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@aadoyle</a> <a href="/users/TheLeafsSeason" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><a href="/users/TheLeafsSeason" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@TheLeafsSeason</a></a> <a href="/users/Boomer125" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Boomer125</a> <a href="/users/draft_em_sign_em_trade_em" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@draft_em_sign_em_trade_em</a> <a href="/users/SammyT_51" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@SammyT_51</a> <a href="/users/leafs_and_sens_fan" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@leafs_and_sens_fan</a> <a href="/users/palhal" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@palhal</a> <a href="/users/PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</a> <a href="/users/leafsfanforsomereason" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@leafsfanforsomereason</a>
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What'd you guys think of this team? Should they contend?</div></div>

Again with the mention :P haha! So issues with both deals. In my books, a young top-6 winger that's scored 20 goals in his first full NHL season (last year) is worth at least a 2nd round draft pick and a pretty good prospect, at minimum. Just because the Leafs are cap-strapped, like many others are, or will be soon, it doesn't mean the Leafs should, or would sell low on such a player, any player for that matter, but especially when you are looking at more of a cap-efficient futures package in return. Second, my issue with Matt Roy. It's not so much an issue, as a risk. He's a good young defender, no doubt, he plays the right side and comes with a super cheap 1-year left on his ELC deal. He also has good hit and shot block numbers, which equates, for a lot of Leafs fans as, young, controllable, tough, plays right side, check-check-check, which equals an automatic good fit. Now, I am not saying he's not a good fit. Ideally, the Leafs would pair him with Sandin and let them develop together against oppositions less elite players, but the cost you have woah, that's my issue. To me, a 1st would be out of the question, which might mean the deal needs to be bigger. For the right price, I would definitely take a swing at Matt Roy, but I am not sure I see a scenario where the Leafs wouldn't have to overpay. LA is rebuilding, so why in the world would they want to part with a good, young and controllable piece? If LA was prepared to do a hockey swap like Dermott for Roy, I think the Leafs would strongly consider, especially because Dermott is occupying Sandin's lineup spot.

Overall, I think more drastic lineup changes will be needed, both in terms of where there cap situation stands and in terms of how well (or lack their of) they do these playoffs. I would add that when you are trying to make these deals and setup a roster that hopefully takes things to a new level, you look to other teams that are not rebuilding, because I think non-rebuilding/retool clubs would be more likely and willing to make hockey deals.
Forum: Armchair-GM13 jui à 19 h 11
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MitchMarnerElite </b></div><div>I don’t agree with your take on DeMelo at all. Just because he’s played top 4 minutes on bad teams, it doesn’t mean he isn’t capable of doing the same thing on a better team. His individual performance in Ottawa was excellent. He ranked in the top 13 percent league-wide in both generating and preventing quality scoring chances, plus he falls in the top 7% in generating offensive zone time. This shows he’s a very good two-way defenceman who can both shutdown the opposition &amp; exit his own end effectively. The fact that he’s achieved these results while playing top 4 minutes on Ottawa is even more impressive since he had to face the opposition’s top players while carrying his awful linemates. Imagine how he’d do playing on a team with players that are actually good?</div></div>

I stand by what I said. When you are on a terrible team playing the 4th or 5th most minutes behind Chabot, Ceci (last season), Lajoie, Harpur (last season), Hainsey (this season), Zaitsev (this season), etc. it tells me that he was often sheltered with the Sens lined him up against. I don't know the Senators enough to know who was his usual linemate the last 2 seasons, but every time the Leafs played Toronto with him in the lineup, he usually did not look very good. It's surprising, because I thought more of his potential when he was working his way up the lineup with San Jose before he was traded. Regardless, the Leafs have to trim salary. So on a what if basis, you are telling me you would prefer signing DeMelo, over say, trading Dermott and Kapenen as part of a package to acquire Ryan Graves?