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Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 18 heures

Sujet: Sharks Get Desperate

No way that deal ever gets you Jack Eichel.

Forum: Toronto Maple Leafsil y a 19 heures

Sujet: Lets Have An Honest And Objective Discussion About Mitch Marner

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 19 heures

Sujet: Game 2 Lineup

So I was right about the Gauthier for Engvall swap. Coach still going with Ceci over any other option. Ceci and Barrie looked pretty invisible during game 2.

Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 2:31 pm

Sujet: Next Years roster

I won't comment on values here, because in my opinion, these are all over the place. On Jake Bean, as good as a year as he had in the AHL, I am skeptical about his NHL transition. I would say as far as his depth and potential, he would be behind both Dermott and Sandin on the left-side, and although I am not terribly familiar with Bean, I am not sure he is capable of playing his off-hand. Considering the situation the Canes are in with Dougie Hamilton this offseason, I would think they would want to hold onto Jake Bean purely for their own depth. Also, why would the Leafs ever trade Justin Holl unless it's overpayment. He's proven himself worthy of handling pretty decent minutes in a shutdown role and has shown good compatibility with Muzzin, Dermott, Rielly even. Again, I think the gain from your proposed deal is just not worth the move. I would think Dermott or Sandin moves this offseason, if the upgrade the Leafs get back for whatever package they are included in, makes it worth it.

Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 11:32 pm

Sujet: What I truly think will happ

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Capitalfail67</b></div><div>if you read Carefully i said " a guy youll use as a #1 RHD" never claimed he was a #1 RHD but hes a top 4 RHD and AJ is a bottom 6 player. hes a good bottom 6 but none the less hes a bottom 6 player. long story short AJ will come very cheap or will be a hard sell after a down year and a serious injury. CBj would have little interest in him. you more than likely will trade him to a team willing to take a risk for 3rd round pick but if you think hes a top 6 player god bless you.

dont forget that they are also asking to retain 2million on his contract which is also insane.... and not properly accounted for</div></div>

Oh don't you worry, I read your post extremely carefully and noted how you phrased your comment, which is why I through Cody Ceci right at you, because he's been a guy the Leafs have "used as a #1 RHD at times". Andreas Johnsson is not a bottom-6. During his first full NHL season, he scored 20 goals, and that was last year. The kid is only 25 and was injured at what normally would have been about the half-way point during this season. Nothing about his NHL game so far, potential, or actual play during his sample size, has ever indicated he's nothing but a top-6 forward. A team wouldn't make a trade for an injured player, and guys with bigger injury histories get dealt all the time. Any sort of deal involving Johnsson would probably be pending a physical, but honestly, that's no reason his value gets diminished.

Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 11:26 pm

Sujet: Edmonton Oilers

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>Your assumption was addressed in this very thread before you commented though. All of Edmonton's black ace defensemen have played at least one NHL game before except Broberg, so he got the start. Tippett wanted to get Patrick Russell (F) into the game as well, so there wasn't room for anyone else.</div></div>

Was my assumption re-addressed before my initial comment? Because I find it hard to believe that Bouchard sees initial action in the RTP best-of-5 unless something happens to one of the defenders ahead of him. I think based on how Broberg played yesterday, at least from what I saw, he deserves the 6-7 spot over a guy like Bouchard, which to me I just find interesting because of the things I previously mentioned. Anyway, just curious.

Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 1:58 pm

Sujet: Edmonton Oilers

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>Where did you hear that? I don't think that's true - he's just not in the top-6.</div></div>

I didn't hear it anywhere, it's just my assumption that a guy that didn't play the exhibition game would not be top of the depth chart if another D body needed to be inserted into the lineup for whatever reason. That's why I found it so peculiar that Edmonton didn't go 8 D for the exhibition game. And before you ask, NYI went with 8 D in their exhibition game, so it's not completely ridiculous a thought.

Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 1:54 pm

Sujet: What I truly think will happ

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Capitalfail67</b></div><div>Yeah logically a guy you’ll use as a #1 RHD with 2million!!! retained in a flat cap era Is being overpaid for with a late 2nd round pick and a bottom 6 forward coming off injury and a terrible year. Impossible to argue that logic lol</div></div>

Johnsson is not a bottom-6 forward and the Savard is not a top-pairing guy at all. Just because theoretically, he might get paired with Rielly IF in fantasy land world he is traded to the Leafs doesn't automatically make him a top-pairing guy. If you haven't noticed, Ceci has been spending a lot of time with Rielly this season when both are healthy. By your logic, because of the position the Leafs had matched him up with, he's being used as a #1 RHD. Clearly, that's not true.

Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 1:51 pm

Sujet: Edmonton Oilers

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BeterChiarelli</b></div><div>They wanted to give Broberg a hint of what NHL action is like god forbid they need him during the playoffs. Tippett confirmed this: both Bouchard and Lagesson have seen NHL icetime, Broberg hasn't. Better to work off the nerves now than in a game that really matters.</div></div>

He looked quite good, but I am just surprised that Bouchard is not even going to be considered for RTP action.

Forum: Armchair-GM29 jui à 2 h 23

Sujet: Dubas said he will be scouting for free agents

I am sure Dubas will turn over every stone at some point, if he hasn't already. Honestly though, I think Gudas is the better and cheaper fit for this group than Tanev. Yes, I like Tanev, but his injury history has me worried. At least with Gudas, at say, $3.25 million AAV over 3 years, you can pair him with Dermott (if he stays) or Sandin and have a more prototypical bottom D pairing. Because the Leafs need to find some new LTIR money for their cap situation, I expect a fairly aggressive trade season for the Leafs after they wrap up play, whenever that will be

Forum: Armchair-GM29 jui à 2 h 18

Sujet: What I truly think will happ

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Capitalfail67</b></div><div>Probably will cost more to retain 2million. Savard alone could get a 1sr and prospect with no retained salary. AJ salary doesn’t fit his production lastYear and he’s coming off an injury. I imagine if they wait till deadline time he’ll get them way more than this.</div></div>

That's not true. Though I don't think the Leafs will make this deal for other various reasons, the deal that is displayed on this AGM for Savard, I would consider, overpayment as-is. Savard puts up numbers for stats that a lot of Leafs just don't do well in. Things like hits, shot blocks, etc. As you and a ton of other Leafs' fans will see upcoming in the RTP series, Savard is not an ideal fit for this group.

Forum: Armchair-GM29 jui à 2 h 16

Sujet: Edmonton Oilers

Can any Oiler fans tell me why Bouchard was not in the lineup for the exhibition game but Phillip Broberg was? I mean, Broberg looked reasonably solid, but I am surprised Bouchard wasn't given at least the 7th spot, considering he had a pretty good year in the AHL. Is he injured?

Forum: Armchair-GM28 jui à 0 h 15

Sujet: Winnipeg Loses Play In

That Leafs trade is pretty awful, as is that Vegas trade. Don't think teams are just going to let go of their top-6 players just because of high cap hits or because teams are up against the cap.

Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs20 jui à 19 h 01

Sujet: What Is Wrong With Mitch Marner

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MitchMarnerElite </b></div><div><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/leafs/comments/ferbbt/arthur_marner_and_matthews_both_mentioned/fjse7gc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://www.reddit.com/r/leafs/comments/ferbbt/arthur_marner_and_matthews_both_mentioned/fjse7gc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf</a></div></div>

I would not trust anything Bruce Arthur says, ever.

Forum: Armchair-GM20 jui à 18 h 56

Sujet: Could They Trade For Weegar

Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs18 jui à 13 h 53

Sujet: What Is Wrong With Mitch Marner

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MitchMarnerElite </b></div><div>I think if the Leafs underwhelm in the playoffs again this year, the player in question should be Mitch Marner. At this point, I have to wonder if he’s a locker room cancer & holding the team back. It’s undeniable that the kid’s got loads of talent, but this season there were just so many games in which he gave a poor effort & played with no intensity at all. The team looks up to their top players & Marner certainly didn’t set an example this year.

My offseason plan would be to trade Marner for a package that addresses Toronto’s biggest needs. We need to keep in mind that in a flat cap world, there won’t be teams interested in taking on his albatross contract, so the return will be much smaller than what we’d all expect.

My ideal Mitch Marner trade would be to send him to Pittsburgh for Patric Hornqvist, Sam Lafferty, Jack Johnson & Chad Ruhwedel. What’d you guys think?</div></div>

Clearly, that's some sort of sarcastic joke right? Where has ever been reported, or even rumored that Mitch Marner is an issue in the locker room? I've never ever heard that, or read that, about him.

Forum: Armchair-GM18 jui à 13 h 51

Sujet: Should Ceci Get A Spot In The Lineup

Forum: Armchair-GM16 jui à 3 h 33

Sujet: Nylander Trade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stan_Bowman</b></div><div>Interesting take.

My opinion is that there isn't really much reason for either team to do this, both teams probably like their players better, but it's close in reality.</div></div>

I would not say it's not close. Nylander alone is closer in value to both the Blackhawks combined then 2-for-2 equaling each other other. The only way you truly get fair value on Nylander is if you get pack a futures type package for him, but in reality, the Leafs should be looking for offense-for-defense swap, where minimizing potential offense results in maximizing (hopefully) defense and overall defensive play.

Forum: Armchair-GM16 jui à 3 h 31

Sujet: Toronto Maple Leafs

Why are the Leafs trading prospects for LTIR. Taking Gaborik off Melnyk's hands should be considered doing him a major favour, not the other way around. Yes, LTIR provides the Leafs will additional cap flexibility, but make no mistake about it, the Leafs can't be getting rid of their prospect depth for LTIR when they are so reliant on developing their own players, especially for depth purposes. As for the Ducks trade, I don't like it. It's been well-reported that Kesler is trying to come back, so there is no guarantee, even if it's likely, he stays on LTIR for the remainder of his contract. Also, Manson's contract looks less and less appealing as we talk about it each season and his control diminishes. If and when the Leafs do trade Nylander, or a combination of Kerfoot, Johnsson and Kapanen, it should be for young defenders with more control and/or term on their deals.

Forum: Armchair-GM16 jui à 3 h 26

Sujet: Nylander Trade

It seems a little counter-intuitive to make such a deal forwards-for-forwards, when the Leafs back end needs a lot of improvement. Also, I wouldn't characterize Strome as a type of 3C the Leafs need. Think more of Scott Laughton. Strome is too offensive and although he is young and will hopefully develop into a good 2C, asking him to do what the Leafs basically asked Kerfoot to do this past year, could end terribly.

Forum: Armchair-GM16 jui à 3 h 23

Sujet: Matt Roy Trade Idea

Forum: Armchair-GM13 jui à 19 h 11

Sujet: Marner Absolutely Must Go

As one of the few guys that you can see at least trying every night, that back-checks (even though he's not always good at it), that kills penalties, I as well disagree with the the AGM title. In fact, his contract basically makes him untradeable, especially if the Leafs want to try and get fair value for him. I don't see that Marner trade as fair value. Yes, Marner does cough up the puck in his own end a fair bit, and yes, sometimes he hold onto the puck too long, or does things with the puck that makes you wonder, but I argue that his attitude is great and more of what this team needs, especially when you can see other supposedly top-6 players taking shifts off at times. I saw a few AGMs propose a Marner for Barzal deal. Now, I am not sure what the heck the Leafs would do with a 3C of Barzal's quality, but I would argue that's a far more "fair value" type of deal.

Forum: Armchair-GM13 jui à 19 h 00

Sujet: Cirelli

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jah1722</b></div><div>AZ can’t afford anyone. They have 1.5M in cap space with only 17 players signed for next season.</div></div>

With the flat cap, there will be so many teams that will have to move cap space and fix issues. A fair hockey deal, in my opinion would be Cernak and Cirelli for Dvorak and Chychrun. Both teams will likely still need to make additional moves to relieve cap space, but to me, that seems like a reasonably fair deal.

Forum: Armchair-GM13 jui à 18 h 48

Sujet: Reasonable Offseason Moves

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MitchMarnerElite </b></div><div>I don’t agree with your take on DeMelo at all. Just because he’s played top 4 minutes on bad teams, it doesn’t mean he isn’t capable of doing the same thing on a better team. His individual performance in Ottawa was excellent. He ranked in the top 13 percent league-wide in both generating and preventing quality scoring chances, plus he falls in the top 7% in generating offensive zone time. This shows he’s a very good two-way defenceman who can both shutdown the opposition & exit his own end effectively. The fact that he’s achieved these results while playing top 4 minutes on Ottawa is even more impressive since he had to face the opposition’s top players while carrying his awful linemates. Imagine how he’d do playing on a team with players that are actually good?</div></div>

I stand by what I said. When you are on a terrible team playing the 4th or 5th most minutes behind Chabot, Ceci (last season), Lajoie, Harpur (last season), Hainsey (this season), Zaitsev (this season), etc. it tells me that he was often sheltered with the Sens lined him up against. I don't know the Senators enough to know who was his usual linemate the last 2 seasons, but every time the Leafs played Toronto with him in the lineup, he usually did not look very good. It's surprising, because I thought more of his potential when he was working his way up the lineup with San Jose before he was traded. Regardless, the Leafs have to trim salary. So on a what if basis, you are telling me you would prefer signing DeMelo, over say, trading Dermott and Kapenen as part of a package to acquire Ryan Graves?

Forum: Armchair-GM13 jui à 18 h 37

Sujet: Cirelli

It's a terrible deal for the Lightning if all they are after is moving big (or potentially big) salary out of the door. Neither Terry nor Steel has proven much of anything at the NHL level, and although the Lighting seem to get the best out of all their prospects, it's never a guarantee. The 1st is always nice, but the biggest letdown might be the term of Manson's deal. Cernak and Cirelli come with lots of control potential. I imagine that if the Lightning decided to package these 2 RFAs up, they'd be looking right in the direction of the Arizona Coyotes.

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