Modifié 27 juin 2020 à 23 h 39
Quoting: Birtle34
So they over payed and over termed there base, and defied Father Time at that point, can you name me a dynasty that didn’t draft there base through bottoming out. Or it’s just Minnesota reinventing the wheel and smartest guy in the room. Some teams don’t even have that play in the playbook, but keep going with that they are going to be an actual legit contender in central, 2/3 players away come on, they are questionable to be 4th in the division. New gm hopefully has a long leash
Do you you have no knowledge of how contracts are structured? Specifically, how they they were affected pre-and-post CBA? Or even more specifically, Parise and Suters'?
At the time they were signed the contracts were both front loaded where they were payed more up front during their first six years and after that it goes down every other year until the final two years where they are roughly paid about a Million each. That's their age 39-40 season by the way.
The Wild could have easily moved them both to other teams at this point if their overall play started to decline as they got older. If they retired before their contracts were up then the team wasn't overly effected by it. The contracts just simply came off the payroll. Easy peasy.
This is Pre-CBA by the by.
Following along?
After the changes to the CBA by Bettman.
Teams now have to contend with cap hit's by AAV's
not contract payouts. What this means is that instead of Parise and Suter's contracts overall cap hit falling off as they got older and were paid less, again this is legal at the time of their signings, were defined by what the total averaged value was over the course of the 13 year deals. Which is roughly 7.5M until the end of their contracts at age 40, even though they're getting paid less each year. Thus creating a large void of
dead money to our overall cap space.
Then try throwing on the monster that is the cap-recapure penalty if god forbid they either retire or get traded were hit with a 20 million dollar cap hit until they're about 3 years out from contracts end.
Look, it's easy to say a team should bottom out and get high draft picks to rebuild and get those types of players. It's quite another to tell a young core group of players that are already on the roster and are in need of veteran leadership to suck some more just so that we can draft higher for a little while longer in order to do it. That just creates a losing mentality that goes contrary to building a winning culture that's necessary to build a franchise dynasty.
Furthermore, at the time of the signings. The Wild were considered to have one of the best prospects pools in the league. A prospect pool that was starting to come together and make their presence felt. But the Wild were too young, we needed some older veteran high-end players to steer the ship.
We weren't trying to game the system as your trying to imply, we just wanted to get better.
Good to know that that's a crime.
After the Parise/Suter signings Fletcher was continually pressured by Craig Leipold to make more win now moves, and selling off picks and prospects when we should have continued building.
I said all that before, for the record. I never said we were 2-3 pieces away during that timeframe. I said that is what our owner routinely tried to sell the fanbase in order to explain all of the win now mentality he continually espouse.