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Proper Eichle trade to Carolina

Créé par: Subbanator7667
Équipe: 2019-20 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 29 mai 2020
Publié: 29 mai 2020
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Didnt do lines because I dont care.

And I still dont know if this gets Eichle
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29 mai 2020 à 11 h 55
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That is a big nope from Carolina. Why would you tradetwo core players for someone who wants out of an organisation? That's so dumb
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29 mai 2020 à 11 h 56
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That’s more like it. Probably don’t need to include Necas but this is closer to what it would actually cost to land an elite franchise player under 25.
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29 mai 2020 à 11 h 59
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Quoting: Caniac2000
That is a big nope from Carolina. Why would you tradetwo core players for someone who wants out of an organisation? That's so dumb


Just post turbos RAPM next to Eichel's 😂😂
29 mai 2020 à 12 h 9
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Just post turbos RAPM next to Eichel's 😂😂


Turbo literally sh*ts on Eichel
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29 mai 2020 à 12 h 14
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If you drop Trocheck and swap Bean for like Sellgren then you're in the ballpark. Which is to say that the value is off by an entire Trocheck+.

Again, Botts has already traded a 1C and he got fleeced, and a player wanting out of town loses leverage for a GM. Eichel's on-ice value and what the Sabres can actually return in a trade are not the same thing. That's why a place like this exists, so that Sabres fans can pretend that they have a competent GM and that their team isn't in shambles.
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29 mai 2020 à 12 h 18
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I'd prefer dealing Svechnikov over Teravainen (and I find Svech near-untradeable); that's how important he is to the Canes RN.
29 mai 2020 à 12 h 29
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Turbo literally sh*ts on Eichel


Their isn't a player on this team that is as talented and Eichel. Not happening, and Turbo is good but he always has played with Aho and Nino on this team.
29 mai 2020 à 12 h 30
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Their isn't a player on this team that is as talented and Eichel. Not happening, and Turbo is good but he always has played with Aho and Nino on this team.


TT's RAPM makes Eichel look like an average top 6 joe, and Aho's are better than Eichel's too. This is an EASY nope from Carolina. I know you're a buffalo fan, and I know that you value Eichel very highly, but analytically, this ain't worth it.
29 mai 2020 à 12 h 31
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Quoting: Sagecoll
If you drop Trocheck and swap Bean for like Sellgren then you're in the ballpark. Which is to say that the value is off by an entire Trocheck+.

Again, Botts has already traded a 1C and he got fleeced, and a player wanting out of town loses leverage for a GM. Eichel's on-ice value and what the Sabres can actually return in a trade are not the same thing. That's why a place like this exists, so that Sabres fans can pretend that they have a competent GM and that their team isn't in shambles.


Perfectly said
29 mai 2020 à 12 h 36
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Quoting: Caniac2000
That is a big nope from Carolina. Why would you tradetwo core players for someone who wants out of an organisation? That's so dumb


This isn't like an expansion draft. You don't get to protect 7-3-1 in an Eichel trade.
29 mai 2020 à 12 h 38
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This isn't like an expansion draft. You don't get to protect 7-3-1 in an Eichel trade.


No, you just don't give up your best players best friend, your best defensive forward, and one of the most underrated forwards in the NHL, as well as one of only 2 right-handed shots on the roster, who is going to be a 1st line player for a player who wants out of an organization. That's VERY poor asset management. Eichel's value dropped the second he said he's sick of losing.
29 mai 2020 à 12 h 43
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Quoting: Caniac2000
TT's RAPM makes Eichel look like an average top 6 joe, and Aho's are better than Eichel's too. This is an EASY nope from Carolina. I know you're a buffalo fan, and I know that you value Eichel very highly, but analytically, this ain't worth it.


A number 1 center that could and will score 110-130 next year is better than your players, you team with Eichel would be unstoppable. Ye ok you value players highly, but they are not Eichel level this post is to figure out a realistic trade for Eichel, but yes as Carolina you probably lose depth on all lines so I wouldn't do this deal, but the deal is fair value.
29 mai 2020 à 12 h 44
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That is a big nope from Carolina. Why would you tradetwo core players for someone who wants out of an organisation? That's so dumb


Almost as dumb as believing that Eichel wants out of Buffalo!
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29 mai 2020 à 12 h 48
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Quoting: Caniac2000
TT's RAPM makes Eichel look like an average top 6 joe, and Aho's are better than Eichel's too. This is an EASY nope from Carolina. I know you're a buffalo fan, and I know that you value Eichel very highly, but analytically, this ain't worth it.


Aho better then eichel lmfao thanks for the free entertainment
29 mai 2020 à 12 h 48
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No, you just don't give up your best players best friend, your best defensive forward, and one of the most underrated forwards in the NHL, as well as one of only 2 right-handed shots on the roster, who is going to be a 1st line player for a player who wants out of an organization. That's VERY poor asset management. Eichel's value dropped the second he said he's sick of losing.


His value hasn't dropped at all. Of course he's sick of losing - who wouldn't be?! That is silly.

You have to give quality to get quality.
29 mai 2020 à 12 h 52
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Quality over quantity only matters when its not your team. Every fan base on here thinks their secondary depth scoring is worth another teams star player. Nope, no they aren't. No GM beyond Chiarelli would trade an elite franchise centre for a secondary players and a pick. This is just silly.
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29 mai 2020 à 12 h 56
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Quality over quantity only matters when its not your team. Every fan base on here thinks their secondary depth scoring is worth another teams star player. Nope, no they aren't. No GM beyond Chiarelli would trade an elite franchise centre for a secondary players and a pick. This is just silly.


For once we agree. Hell's never been colder! laugh
29 mai 2020 à 13 h 19
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Let's imagine Eichel truly wants out of Buffalo. It's a tough trade in general because Eichel's 10m cap hit. Not saying Eichel isn't worth the 10m.
But Eichel only has himself to blame Sure it was hard to turn down 10m X 8 years, but he had the choice. He must've then as he knows now, the Sabres will be hard pressed to make the playoffs throughout his Sabres tenure. Paying Skinner 9m adds to the Sabres difficulties.
I admire Trouba. He wanted out of Winnipeg. He took less money, less security by signing short term deals, so he could get to UFA as soon as he could. Eichel...suck it up. You could have been a UFA in the summer of 2022.
29 mai 2020 à 13 h 29
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For once we agree. Hell's never been colder! laugh


I get the argument of a player demanding a trade and that lowering the negotiating power of the team who owns him but with Eichel not having a NMC at this time, everyone would have a chance and Buffalo would want a franchise centre of similar age. I think Florida was likely be a good target. Bob and Barkov for Eichel and Okoposo or something like that with maybe a 1st going Buffalo's way as well. That is just off the top of my head but it gets Buffalo another franchise centre at least.
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29 mai 2020 à 13 h 34
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Who is Eichle and why would they trade all this for him? sarcasm
 
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