What is the value of pens players

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Créé par: Pens3lieve

Équipe: 2019-20 Penguins de Pittsburgh

Date de création initiale: 8 avr. 2020

Publié: 9 avr. 2020

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

We’ll only use picks so this doesn’t morph into an argument over prospect value.
These picks are not really team specific just say middle of the pack picks.
This has nothing to do with the teams trading for these players. No difference between a Tampa or Detroit pick. Just say middle of the pack picks.
What is the value of pens players in picks?

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PIT

Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (BOS)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (ANA)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (ANA)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (ANA)

ANA

Crosby, Sidney

PIT

Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (BUF)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (BUF)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (BUF)

BUF

Malkin, Evgeni

PIT

Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (ARI)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (ARI)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (ARI)

ARI

Guentzel, Jake

PIT

Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (BOS)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (BOS)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (BOS)

BOS

Letang, Kris

PIT

Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (CGY)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (CGY)

CGY

Rust, Bryan

PIT

Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (CGY)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (CGY)

CGY

Zucker, Jason

PIT

Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (TOR)
Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (CAR)

CAR

Aston-Reese, Zach

PIT

Choix de 6e ronde en 2021 (CAR)
Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (CAR)
Choix de 6e ronde en 2022 (CAR)

CAR

Bjugstad, Nick

PIT

Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (CHI)

CHI

Rodrigues, Evan

10.

PIT

Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (PIT)

CHI

Hörnqvist, Patric

11.

PIT

Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (CHI)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (CHI)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (CGY)

CHI

Dumoulin, Brian

12.

PIT

Choix de 6e ronde en 2020 (CHI)

CHI

Ruhwedel, Chad

13.

PIT

Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (CHI)

CHI

Lafferty, Sam

14.

PIT

Choix de 6e ronde en 2022 (CHI)

CHI

Angello, Anthony

15.

PIT

Choix de 7e ronde en 2021 (MTL)

CHI

Johnson, Jack
Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (TOR)

16.

PIT

Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (COL)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (COL)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (COL)

COL

Marino, John

17.

PIT

Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (COL)
Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (COL)

COL

Simon, Dominik

18.

PIT

Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (COL)
Choix de 7e ronde en 2022 (COL)

COL

Tanev, Brandon

19.

PIT

Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (CBJ)
Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (CBJ)
Choix de 6e ronde en 2022 (CBJ)

CBJ

Blueger, Teddy

20.

PIT

Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (DAL)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (DAL)
Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (DAL)
Choix de 7e ronde en 2021 (DAL)

DAL

McCann, Jared

21.

PIT

Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (DAL)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (DAL)
Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (DAL)

DAL

Pettersson, Marcus

22.

PIT

Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (DAL)
Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (DAL)

DAL

Riikola, Juuso

23.

PIT

Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (EDM)

EDM

Murray, Matt

24.

PIT

Choix de 6e ronde en 2021 (EDM)
Choix de 6e ronde en 2021 (PIT)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (EDM)

EDM

Jarry, Tristan

25.

PIT

Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (EDM)

EDM

DeSmith, Casey

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2020
2021
2022

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TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
20	81 500 000 $	22 409 166 $	132 500 $	875 000 $	59 090 834 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Björkqvist, Kasper 792 500 $792 500 $ (132 500 $$132K) AG RFA - 2	Hållander, Filip 778 333 $778 333 $ C RFA - 4	Poulin, Samuel 925 000 $925 000 $ C, AG RFA - 5
Miletic, Sam 710 000 $710 000 $ AG, C UFA - 1	Almeida, Justin 809 167 $809 167 $ (132 500 $$132K) C, AG UFA - 3	Légaré, Nathan 809 167 $809 167 $ AD RFA - 5
DiPauli, Thomas 700 000 $700 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Bellerive, Jordy 733 333 $733 333 $ C UFA - 3	Sheary, Conor 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1
Marleau, Patrick 700 000 $700 000 $ AG, C UFA - 1	Ölund, Linus 775 833 $775 833 $ (132 500 $$132K) C UFA - 2	Barber, Riley 700 000 $700 000 $ AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier 863 333 $863 333 $ (212 500 $$212K) DG RFA - 3	Schultz, Justin 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 1	Larmi, Emil 792 500 $792 500 $ (132 500 $$132K) G UFA - 2
Almari, Niclas 809 167 $809 167 $ (132 500 $$132K) DG UFA - 3	Trotman, Zach 700 000 $700 000 $ DD UFA - 2	D'Orio, Alex 733 333 $733 333 $ G UFA - 3
Nyberg, John 745 000 $745 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Warsofsky, David 700 000 $700 000 $ DG UFA - 2

9 avr. 2020 à 12 h 34

Pens3lieve

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What is the value of pens players in picks? Average picks. Team makes no difference.

9 avr. 2020 à 12 h 44

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Quoting: Pens3lieve

@Grusofsky96 @pharrow @CHUG @mhockey91 @Sidstick87 @MajesticWalrus @ChampEddy @Eugene_Meltsner @acj @Sebybbq @MTF @NoWah49 @Marcsnack @MitchMarnerElite @csick @ryandrisc @TabooPenguo @Jr_pens @claysbar
and all the other penguins fans...
What is the value of pens players in picks? Average picks. Team makes no difference.

I cannot even start to think about trading Crosby, Malkin, Guentzel, among others!

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9 avr. 2020 à 12 h 52

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Letang
If I'm reading your post right, to me he's: One first and two seconds or 'middle of the pack!'
Doubt he gets 2 firsts (or "first picks in the second round") from elite squads. He's still a good asset play-wise but his age and cap hit will be tough to fit in with top teams like BOS, STL, TBL, WSH, etc. which are usually spending to the cap...

9 avr. 2020 à 12 h 54

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Quoting: Marcsnack

I cannot even start to think about trading Crosby, Malkin, Guentzel, among others!

Agree. I wouldn’t trade most of the players either. It is just for kicks. Like what the value of these players is.

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9 avr. 2020 à 12 h 55

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Quoting: McGruff

Get it yes it would be hard for any team to squeeze in a big contract. I’m not suggesting trading any of these players. Just wondering what the value of all the players is.

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9 avr. 2020 à 13 h 0

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Really good work. Although for Jake, I think 4 first round picks cuz he’s in his prime, a 40 goal 90 point guy & elite
Playoff performances.

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9 avr. 2020 à 13 h 2

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Quoting: Pens3lieve

Get it yes it would be hard for any team to squeeze in a big contract. I’m not suggesting trading any of these players. Just wondering what the value of all the players is.

He could definitely command that still from some teams, esp. as TDL approaches and the heat picks up...

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9 avr. 2020 à 13 h 37

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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite

Really good work. Although for Jake, I think 4 first round picks cuz he’s in his prime, a 40 goal 90 point guy & elite
Playoff performances.

Very fair point. If we hadn’t extended him, he would have been talked about concerning offer sheets.good work by GMJR to sign him early. If there’re average 1sts too then maybe. 3 1sts at least. That’s what I had Geno and tanger getting bit Jake is way younger, cheaper, and BTW scores 40.

9 avr. 2020 à 13 h 57

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Quoting: Pens3lieve

Agree given Jake’s resume, I’m sure teams were willing to offer him similar deals compared to what Marner got. It was a huge win signing him early for sure.

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9 avr. 2020 à 15 h 10

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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite

Agree given Jake’s resume, I’m sure teams were willing to offer him similar deals compared to what Marner got. It was a huge win signing him early for sure.

While it was a HUGE win to sign him early...I think an offer sheet would've looked more like the Montreal to Aho one then the Marner deal.

9 avr. 2020 à 15 h 46

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Quoting: Pens3lieve

While it was a HUGE win to sign him early...I think an offer sheet would've looked more like the Montreal to Aho one then the Marner deal.

Yes agree. After the 2017-18 season ended, I believed an extension for Jake would look something like 9 million AAV for 5 years.

10 avr. 2020 à 19 h 3

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I don't see Geno pulling 3 1st's. I think JG gets significantly more than he does. Think Geno gets a playoff team 1st and an A prospect at this point.

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