So we learned today that Julian McKenzie is a moron. Thanks.

I'd even retain 3 million for that

Just feels nice knowing we are not alone in this world

what king of drugs was Julian McKenzie on hen he said that, hole crap one of the top RD prospects in the league for a 34yo G wow he should be banned from everything related to hockey for life for just proposing this.

To be fair to Julian McKenzie, he didn't propose the trade, he just commented on it. And it was back in February when Markstrom was still playing extremely well.

Listen, I don't want to toot our own horn here but believe it or not, the collective CF opinion (minus the crazies of course) are far more realistic than some of the Athletic or other publications opinions when it comes to trade value. They aren't thinking values and projections like we do. Their jobs are in creating narratives and storylines. Not analyzing data for trades like many of us do. Julian is good at what he does but I wouldn't put much stock in his trade valuations. I get LAK needs a goalie and wants to go get a cup but you don't sacrifice literally one of the best prospects in the league to go get a 34 year old, sometimes elite, sometimes dog poopoo, caliber goalie.

Its crazy how many writers/podcasters are so eloquent with words and quite knowledgeable on hockey culture, NHL rules, hockey politics etc but are completely out to lunch on trade values. AND THATS OK. He doesn't spend hours upon hours like some of us do here on CF, refining trade value knowledge.

The trade was proposed back in February, Markstrom had just stolen back to back games for the Flames then lost a goaltending duel 1-0 vs the rangers (score was 2-0 but one was a empty netter). At the same time the Kings were falling in the standings because of poor goaltending. A fan made up the trade in his Flames Mailbag segment, MacKenzie added 3 million in retention to it. Obviously the trade makes no sense today, but it was some what realistic when it was proposed.[/quote]

Yeah I didn't know the whole back story here. Was just commenting as if it were something he just proposed or something.

Either way, there wasn't a point this entire year that this trade makes sense though so timing doesn't change a whole lot. Its not that Markstrom isn't an option, he absolutely is, but the value isn't anything that holds. Clarke+ would bring back a top goalie in his prime. Not a 34 year old.

I saw an article today that appeared on the MSN news crawl credited to a scout that was a detailed year-end analysis of the entire Toronto roster. I didn't think to make a note of the author's name but when I opened up CapFriendly this morning lo and behold, his individual analyses are the 26 new scouting reports that appeared on the site. So here's his proposed Marner trade:

Mitch Marner, Timothy Liljegren and Nick Robertson to San Jose for Filip Bystedt, Mario Ferraro and the Vegas 2025 first that the Sharks own (because the trade has to occur after July 1)

I would post an ACGM on this if I knew the name of the guy who thought it up.