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Who is the better player

Créé par: mv21227
Équipe: 2023-24 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 13 mai 2024
Publié: 13 mai 2024
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Was told by a Canes fan that Aho is a top 5C and clearly better than Pettersson who is a fringe top 10C. Wanted to see what other people think
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VAN
    Notable stats this season:
    •89 points in 78 games
    •Most common 5v5 linemates: Teravainen, Svechnikov, Guentzel, Jarvis
    •3.01 xGF/60, 2.46 xGA/60, 55.03 xGF% at 5v5
    •15 goals, 33 primary points, 39 points at 5v5
    •1.84 primary P/60, 2.17 P/60 at 5v5
    CAR
      Notable stats this season:
      •89 points in 82 games
      •Most common 5v5 linemates: Mikheyev, Hoglander, Kuzmenko, Lafferty, Boeser
      •2.72 xGF/60, 2.47 xGA/60, 52.44 xGF% at 5v5
      •Struggled while playing through an injury the last 1-2 months of the season
      •14 goals, 37 primary points, 46 points at 5v5
      •2.04 primary P/60, 2.53 P/60 at 5v5
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      VAN
        Notable career stats:
        •557 points in 598 games (0.93 PPG)
        •Solid defensive analytics (hasn’t had much Selke love though, zero top 10 finishes)
        •Career highs are 38 goals, 89 points
        •15.2 career SH%
        •Finished 10th in Hart voting in 2018/19
        •Carolina has been a playoff team 6 of Aho’s 8 seasons
        •26 goals, 68 points in 72 playoff games
        CAR
          Notable career stats:
          •412 points in 407 games (1.01 PPG)
          •Very good defensively (finished 7th in Selke voting last season)
          •Won the Calder trophy as a rookie
          •Career highs 39 goals, 102 points
          •16.6 career SH%
          •No top 10 Hart trophy finishes
          •Vancouver has been a playoff team in 2 of Pettersson’s 6 seasons
          • 8 goals, 22 points in 26 playoff games
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          13 mai à 20 h 59
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          The league isn’t ready for Frank Nazar, who leaves both in the dust!
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          Pettersson’s playoffs have blown these debates out of proportion. Aho has been playing with Guentzel and Jarvis. EP plays with Hoglander Mikheyev and Karlsson tears of joy
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          13 mai à 21 h 0
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          Quoting: cooliny
          Pettersson’s playoffs have blown these debates out of proportion. Aho has been playing with Guentzel and Jarvis. EP plays with Hoglander Mikheyev and Karlsson tears of joy


          Aho's been playing with Svechnikov and Guentzel
          13 mai à 21 h 1
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          It's Aho, and the playoff resumes of both just further cements that
          13 mai à 21 h 1
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          Quoting: Caniac2000
          Aho's been playing with Svechnikov and Guentzel


          Moot point…
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          13 mai à 21 h 2
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          Quoting: Kyle_Davidson
          The league isn’t ready for Frank Nazar, who leaves both in the dust!


          You mean Frank Nazar, 2025 Calder, Hart, Art Ross, and Richard Trophy Winner
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          13 mai à 21 h 3
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          Quoting: Kyle_Davidson
          The league isn’t ready for Frank Nazar, who leaves both in the dust!


          He's just a Dickinson wannabe tbf
          13 mai à 21 h 4
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          Quoting: mv21227
          You mean Frank Nazar, 2025 Calder, Hart, Art Ross, and Richard Trophy Winner


          Don’t forget Conn Smyth and Stanley cup champion (soon).
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          13 mai à 21 h 6
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          Outsider opinion - I’d rather have Pettersson
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          13 mai à 21 h 7
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          Quoting: Caniac2000
          Aho's been playing with Svechnikov and Guentzel


          That's not the point Chief
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          13 mai à 21 h 9
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          Pettersson. But neither are top 5 Cs.

          I'd have pettersson 9th or 10th, aho 12th or 13th

          McD, Mack, Matthews, Healthy Jack Hughes, Draisaitl, Barkov, Crosby, Point, Pettersson, Eichel, Aho, Hischier, Thomas, Larkin, Miller, Stutzle, Suzuki, Kopitar, Hintz, Tage, Mika, Schiefele, Horvat, Trochek, Ror, Karlsson, Mika, JEEK, Kadri, Malkin as my top 30 off the top of my head
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          13 mai à 21 h 12
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          If we are going off like right this second I think Aho has clearly been better just due to Petey's struggles. But at the same time Dakota Joshua has had a better playoffs than Petey so that doesn't say much lmao, Petey will be much much better when all is said and done though so it's pretty clearly Petey
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          13 mai à 21 h 13
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          Quoting: dgibb10
          Pettersson. But neither are top 5 Cs.

          I'd have pettersson 9th or 10th, aho 12th or 13th

          McD, Mack, Matthews, Healthy Jack Hughes, Draisaitl, Barkov, Crosby, Point, Pettersson, Eichel, Aho, Hischier, Thomas, Larkin, Miller, Stutzle, Suzuki, Kopitar, Hintz, Tage, Mika, Schiefele, Horvat, Trochek, Ror, Karlsson, Mika, JEEK, Kadri, Malkin as my top 30 off the top of my head


          I’d have Pettersson over Point. Arguably over Crosby, Barkov, and Hughes but in that same tier imo

          Also for your top 30 I’d include Wyatt Johnston
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          13 mai à 21 h 18
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          Quoting: mv21227
          I’d have Pettersson over Point. Arguably over Crosby, Barkov, and Hughes but in that same tier imo

          Also for your top 30 I’d include Wyatt Johnston


          Wyatt is a freak
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          For the regular season, Pettersson. Playoffs, Aho.
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          Quoting: mv21227
          I’d have Pettersson over Point. Arguably over Crosby, Barkov, and Hughes but in that same tier imo

          Also for your top 30 I’d include Wyatt Johnston


          For some reason I had Wyatt as a winger in my mind. Brain fart. He'd be in for sure.

          Pettersson is the last guy I have in that 3rd tier.

          I have Jack Hughes (when healthy) a level above. If you look at his production when he's been healthy (I know the bias is here), he was dominant after getting healthy in 21-22 (21 goals and 48 points in 36 games after the christmas break), in 22-23, and to start 23-24.

          If you consider all his injuries however, he falls into that lower tier as well with Barkov, Crosby, Point, Pettersson
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          Quoting: StutzlesNumber1Fan
          Wyatt is a freak


          Dallas has done such an insane job of scouting/drafting
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          EP40 for me
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          Quoting: dgibb10
          Pettersson. But neither are top 5 Cs.

          I'd have pettersson 9th or 10th, aho 12th or 13th

          McD, Mack, Matthews, Healthy Jack Hughes, Draisaitl, Barkov, Crosby, Point, Pettersson, Eichel, Aho, Hischier, Thomas, Larkin, Miller, Stutzle, Suzuki, Kopitar, Hintz, Tage, Mika, Schiefele, Horvat, Trochek, Ror, Karlsson, Mika, JEEK, Kadri, Malkin as my top 30 off the top of my head


          Not too soon to add Wyatt Johnston to this list
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          Quoting: NHLfan10506
          Not too soon to add Wyatt Johnston to this list


          Some reason in my head he was a winger. **** it Mika zibanejad is in there twice let’s stick him there
          13 mai à 23 h 16
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          Quoting: dgibb10
          Pettersson. But neither are top 5 Cs.

          I'd have pettersson 9th or 10th, aho 12th or 13th

          McD, Mack, Matthews, Healthy Jack Hughes, Draisaitl, Barkov, Crosby, Point, Pettersson, Eichel, Aho, Hischier, Thomas, Larkin, Miller, Stutzle, Suzuki, Kopitar, Hintz, Tage, Mika, Schiefele, Horvat, Trochek, Ror, Karlsson, Mika, JEEK, Kadri, Malkin as my top 30 off the top of my head


          Even a healthy Jack Hughes is not currently better than Draisatl, Barkov, and Crosby
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          14 mai à 3 h 25
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          Quoting: Caniac2000
          It's Aho, and the playoff resumes of both just further cements that


          Each passing day on this site and i’m even more convinced you’re a social experiment made by the mods just to troll people. Cause no living being that watches hockey could have this many horrendous takes.

          Sleep with that one tonight.
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          14 mai à 6 h 35
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          Quoting: noted
          Even a healthy Jack Hughes is not currently better than Draisatl, Barkov, and Crosby


          Healthy Jack Hughes had 20 points in 9 games.
          14 mai à 6 h 51
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          Quoting: dgibb10
          Healthy Jack Hughes had 20 points in 9 games.


          1. Staying healthy is a skill
          2. Draisatl, Barkov, and Crosby all had great reg seasons
          3. Draisatl and Barkov each currently lead their conferences in playoff points.
          4. Crosby is one of the 5 best players of all time.
          14 mai à 6 h 55
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          1. Staying healthy is a skill
          2. Draisatl, Barkov, and Crosby all had great reg seasons
          3. Draisatl and Barkov each currently lead their conferences in playoff points.
          4. Crosby is one of the 5 best players of all time.


          1) I am aware as mentioned in a previous post
          2) yes they did
          3) good for them
          4) not relevant to today
           
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