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Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 7 heures
Sujet: Can we stop kidding ourselves with Marner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>Plays the 2nd most of all the teams blueliners. He's a good player. The Liljegren hate is as bad as the Marner hate</div></div>

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I think you have the wrong assumption. Not every time a player is criticized is it "hate". I don't "hate" Lilly. He just doesn't do anything special. His QoC is rather low and for what he outputs is pretty mid. Not a good net front or corner presence and is just an average defender.

We need upgrades on the right side, as we have the past what, 5-6 years? It's not hate, lol. It's refusing to run it back with the same guys year after year and NOTHING happening.

I wouldn't mind keeping Lily and lowering his ice time if it means we can get an actual top 4 built.
Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 7 heures
Sujet: Can we stop kidding ourselves with Marner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MitchJr</b></div><div>Willy has NMC, and just signed an 8 year extension.
First, series isn’t over so 🤞.
Second, core 4 were all given NMC (whether we like it or not); hard to imagine any of them waiving unless it was to a preferred destination and those teams probably don’t have cap space to absorb $10+M.
So, no major changes to roster (maybe coaching staff?) until following year when JT &amp; Marner deals expire and there should be tons of flexibility with young players on elc’s ready to make team - Cowan, Minten, Grebyonkin, Niemela, Hildeby, etc).</div></div>

I left out Willy as a typo. Obviously. he's not going. I MEANT to say Marner.

Yeah, the series isn't over, but it should be. Even if by some grace of the hockey gods we win the next two, we are getting slaughtered against Florida. We do not have a team built for the playoffs.

What chronically online people on CF seem to forget is that players can waive NMC's. There is a potential world where Tree refuses to extend Marner and finds a way to get him to waive. Even if we retain, it frees some space to build a better D core and maybe get a 1A/B to help Woll.

My patience with Marner's saga in Toronto is over. I've seen enough of this baby.
Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 8 heures
Sujet: Can we stop kidding ourselves with Marner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hockeynutter</b></div><div>Agreed. I do believe he can still reach his ceiling and his advanced metrics has actually been very positive. For a contract many think about 2.9 million. If Liljegren stays as he is, that is a very good contract for him. Being 25 and how many defenseman don't reach ceiling til about 27 shows a good reason to keep. That being said, changes and new thoughts are needed and as you pointed out a lateral move where we get a good young defenseman back is smart.
I am not against trading anyone on the roster and would approach the off-season like that but their are certain players where trading does not seem realistic.</div></div>

Matthews, Marner, Mo, Tavares. Woll. (and our prospects)

That's it. Everyone else is fair game. If we lose this series clear the house.
Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 8 heures