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Date de création initiale: 25 avr. 2024
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  1. Lee, Anders
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- Lee extended 7M X 4
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25 avr. à 7 h 13
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Lmao. No one is giving Lee that contract now

He also isn't eligible for an extension
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25 avr. à 7 h 19
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Lmao. No one is giving Lee that contract now

He also isn't eligible for an extension


I also don't think NYI would give Marner 11x4 when they just gave a similar player in Barzal 9.15M
25 avr. à 7 h 20
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"gotta get rid of marner, but make sure we give some term to the guy who's braindead play has cost us two games this series" is always fun
25 avr. à 7 h 21
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"gotta get rid of marner, but make sure we give some term to the guy who's braindead play has cost us two games this series" is always fun


The "grit" guys only see hits and scrums.

It's sad. They are more wrestling fans than hockey fans
25 avr. à 7 h 33
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I think Roy is looking for 5-6 years with >$5,5m AAV, but I definitely see big chances, that he is going to sign with the Leafs or also with his hometown DET.
I hope Rittich stays in LA - he was a phenomenal backup for the Kings this year
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25 avr. à 7 h 38
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Pulock, Lee, and Marner all block.
25 avr. à 7 h 58
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If Marner is extended you can get a better return than that
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25 avr. à 8 h 0
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Lmao. No one is giving Lee that contract now

He also isn't eligible for an extension


Even better I guess.
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If Marner is extended you can get a better return than that


We’re not the only ones that see his lack of playoff success. Don’t know how much more you’d get
25 avr. à 8 h 19
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We’re not the only ones that see his lack of playoff success. Don’t know how much more you’d get


All this talk of "lack of success" in the playoffs guys got 48 points in 53 career playoff games ? .91 PPG is pretty good in the playoffs. 14 points in 11 games last year 8 in 7 the year before seems solid if not pretty good to me.
25 avr. à 8 h 42
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Lol. I saw this coming a mile away. Two weeks ago someone could propose a Marner trade and get flamed on here, but as per usual, once the playoffs start, Leaf fans start talking about how he has to go.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
"gotta get rid of marner, but make sure we give some term to the guy who's braindead play has cost us two games this series" is always fun


Samsonov's not extended here though?
25 avr. à 8 h 46
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
Samsonov's not extended here though?


you mean the guy who kept it from being 4-0 Bruins by the end of the 1st and 6-0 by the end of the 2nd? Nah, im talking about the guy who saw something shiny in the crowd and just let Brad Marchand score the game winner last night and took like 3 hilariously awful penalties in game one that burried them.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
you mean the guy who kept it from being 4-0 Bruins by the end of the 1st and 6-0 by the end of the 2nd? Nah, im talking about the guy who saw something shiny in the crowd and just let Brad Marchand score the game winner last night and took like 3 hilariously awful penalties in game one that buried them


Please, think about this and delete this comment...

1. a goalie needs to make stops, look at Swayman, he won his battles, Sammy did not. Sammy, in fact, allows 2 goals that never should have gone it... And debatably a 3rd one, Swayman stole that game and Sammy laid another egg

2. I'm assuming you are talking about 1 of Domi or Bert, both of them have more points than Mitch Marner while having 2-3x the effort and compete level needed in the playoffs, the penalties are fine as that's the result on playing on the edge

3. Nobody's taking "3 hilariously awful penalties in game one that bruied them, the most was Domi at 2, one ended in a 4v4... But stopping 24/29 shots did happen...

4. Samsonov was never in that much danger, most of the shots the Leafs allowed were perimeter shots and the 2 goals that went in... You can't fault whomever you want, but you need a save when you have a defensive breakdown twice a game...

5. The Leafs are lacking in playoff production, so why do you want to get rid of 2 guys actually helping in the playoffs... Brutal take...

If Sammy was as good as you made it seem, The Leafs win 2-0 as all 3 goals were poor puck management... But he wasn't
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Your months long ban has been lifted I see
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Please, think about this and delete this comment...

1. a goalie needs to make stops, look at Swayman, he won his battles, Sammy did not. Sammy, in fact, allows 2 goals that never should have gone it... And debatably a 3rd one, Swayman stole that game and Sammy laid another egg

2. I'm assuming you are talking about 1 of Domi or Bert, both of them have more points than Mitch Marner while having 2-3x the effort and compete level needed in the playoffs, the penalties are fine as that's the result on playing on the edge

3. Nobody's taking "3 hilariously awful penalties in game one that bruied them, the most was Domi at 2, one ended in a 4v4... But stopping 24/29 shots did happen...

4. Samsonov was never in that much danger, most of the shots the Leafs allowed were perimeter shots and the 2 goals that went in... You can't fault whomever you want, but you need a save when you have a defensive breakdown twice a game...

5. The Leafs are lacking in playoff production, so why do you want to get rid of 2 guys actually helping in the playoffs... Brutal take...

If Sammy was as good as you made it seem, The Leafs win 2-0 as all 3 goals were poor puck management... But he wasn't


1-lol no, that's very very incorrect
2-Im talking about Domi, and yes, he literally cost the leafs two games with or without those points.
3-oh no, domi took two very dumb penalties that cost the leafs dearly and not three, not exactly a great defense of him not costing the team
4-samsonov made like a dozen very difficult saves, if it wasnt for him it would have been a blow out before the game was half done
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1-lol no, that's very very incorrect
2-Im talking about Domi, and yes, he literally cost the leafs two games with or without those points.
3-oh no, domi took two very dumb penalties that cost the leafs dearly and not three, not exactly a great defense of him not costing the team
4-samsonov made like a dozen very difficult saves, if it wasnt for him it would have been a blow out before the game was half done


1. Yes it is... You know it, I know it, even @Brad_Treliving knows it despite not being a stats guy
2. No, he didn't... If the Leafs didn't go 0 FOR 5 on the PP, they win... If Sammy saves the Frederic goal and the Marchand one, they win... If he could track the Debrusk goal, they win... The only fault I will give Domi in Game 3, is that he had b2b opportunities to give it to Matthews, all alone in the slot, with Swayman OOP, in game 1, he and the Leafs were sloppy, but they cared and got into it... That's what they needed in G2...
3. The PK was so awful, you are blaming Domi for their faults... Do you remember the stupid William Nylander penalty in Game 5 in 2022? I don't and you don't either until I brought it up... Why? Because The Leafs PK wasn't so bad that they would allow a PP goal against every 2nd penalty
4. No he didn't: https://www.espn.co.uk/nhl/game/_/gameId/401655553/bruins-maple-leafs... They are all perimeter, tips or goals... Now compare it to the Leafs, every chance was in front of the net... All stopped. That's 1/2 of the difference in this series
25 avr. à 10 h 9
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1. Yes it is... You know it, I know it, even Brad_Treliving knows it despite not being a stats guy
2. No, he didn't... If the Leafs didn't go 0 FOR 5 on the PP, they win... If Sammy saves the Frederic goal and the Marchand one, they win... If he could track the Debrusk goal, they win... The only fault I will give Domi in Game 3, is that he had b2b opportunities to give it to Matthews, all alone in the slot, with Swayman OOP, in game 1, he and the Leafs were sloppy, but they cared and got into it... That's what they needed in G2...
3. The PK was so awful, you are blaming Domi for their faults... Do you remember the stupid William Nylander penalty in Game 5 in 2022? I don't and you don't either until I brought it up... Why? Because The Leafs PK wasn't so bad that they would allow a PP goal against every 2nd penalty
4. No he didn't: https://www.espn.co.uk/nhl/game/_/gameId/401655553/bruins-maple-leafs... They are all perimeter, tips or goals... Now compare it to the Leafs, every chance was in front of the net... All stopped. That's 1/2 of the difference in this series


1-yeah, it's not true at all, Sammy let in one bad goal and the rest were on the players
2-He literally allowed the winning goal to happen. The goal literally went in because he was dreaming about getting some better fitting fake teeth, it is 100% on him. the power play sucked but it did not let Marchand have all the time in the world to place a perfect shot from the circle.
3-the PK was awful and the leafs were put on the PK because domi made some terrible choices. If he doesnt take the stupid penalties then the bad PK doesnt have to play and those goals dont go in. Nylander got crucified for that penalty and here you are coddling Domi for doing it multiple times
4-yes, he did, and swayman being better doesnt change that
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1-yeah, it's not true at all, Sammy let in one bad goal and the rest were on the players
2-He literally allowed the winning goal to happen. The goal literally went in because he was dreaming about getting some better fitting fake teeth, it is 100% on him. the power play sucked but it did not let Marchand have all the time in the world to place a perfect shot from the circle.
3-the PK was awful and the leafs were put on the PK because domi made some terrible choices. If he doesnt take the stupid penalties then the bad PK doesnt have to play and those goals dont go in. Nylander got crucified for that penalty and here you are coddling Domi for doing it multiple times
4-yes, he did, and swayman being better doesnt change that


1. Frederic goal+Marchand goal were bad
2. Keep hating on Domi all you want, he wasn't the problem with allowing a short side high goal int he playoffs
3. No he didn't, bc the PK was able to defend a PP... I'm fine with both penalties, it's on Sammy and the PK to defend it if you don't want to get bullied by BOS
4. He didn't, the eye test and the stats each say Sammy had a way lighter workload and couldn't get it done
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1. Frederic goal+Marchand goal were bad
2. Keep hating on Domi all you want, he wasn't the problem with allowing a short side high goal int he playoffs
3. No he didn't, bc the PK was able to defend a PP... I'm fine with both penalties, it's on Sammy and the PK to defend it if you don't want to get bullied by BOS
4. He didn't, the eye test and the stats each say Sammy had a way lighter workload and couldn't get it done


1-the Marchand goal was a perfectly placed laser because he had 90 years alone in prime shooting territory because Domi was playing with his belly button
2-He was quite obviously the problem
3-yeah, he did because he literally caused the penalty kill to be a thing. If your team is bad at killing penalties you shouldnt be incredibly stupid and take dumb penalties. So that is on Domi.
4-he did, eye test and stats show sammy had a fine game and again, just because swayman was better does not mean samsonov was bad.
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1-the Marchand goal was a perfectly placed laser because he had 90 years alone in prime shooting territory because Domi was playing with his belly button
2-He was quite obviously the problem
3-yeah, he did because he literally caused the penalty kill to be a thing. If your team is bad at killing penalties you shouldnt be incredibly stupid and take dumb penalties. So that is on Domi.
4-he did, eye test and stats show sammy had a fine game and again, just because swayman was better does not mean samsonov was bad.


1. In the Regular Season, fine, but this is the playoffs... Swayman was making those kinds of saves... Sammy wasn't
2. No, he wasn't, embarrassingly, tied for the most points on the team in the playoffs
3. Every team take penalties you know, no matter how bad their PK is... You can't be soft with Boston, but to not be soft, you're going to take penalties... Frankly, Marner and Holmberg have been brutal together on the PK (especially Marner, all of Boston's PP goals were scored with Marner on the ice thus far...). So it's not on Domi to do what he's being paid to do
4. Eye test shows Sammy was bad... And it 100% matters how well Swayman does, because that's who Sammy's being paid like and who's going h2h with Sammy
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1. In the Regular Season, fine, but this is the playoffs... Swayman was making those kinds of saves... Sammy wasn't
2. No, he wasn't, embarrassingly, tied for the most points on the team in the playoffs
3. Every team take penalties you know, no matter how bad their PK is... You can't be soft with Boston, but to not be soft, you're going to take penalties... Frankly, Marner and Holmberg have been brutal together on the PK (especially Marner, all of Boston's PP goals were scored with Marner on the ice thus far...). So it's not on Domi to do what he's being paid to do
4. Eye test shows Sammy was bad... And it 100% matters how well Swayman does, because that's who Sammy's being paid like and who's going h2h with Sammy


1-These goals go in all the time, the best goalies in the world dont stop them in the playoffs and Swayman had at least two blow by him untouched that only didnt go in because they hit the post and one that he didnt get anything but the jersey in his armpit on.
2-When you are the primary issue on the game winning goal, you are the problem. When you take two dumb penalties that put your team down early, you are the problem
3-and when other teams players take dumb penalties, they are the reason that team is on the PK too, so they get that blame. Just like Domi, if this was a trip to stop a break away or something it wouldnt be near as damning as punching a guy in the head for no reason in a scurm
4-no, the eye test shows sammy was good. And It matters how swayman does, but you are really really convinced that because he was good samsonov must have been awful. that is not how things work.
if matthews had a 4 goal 2 assist game but Pastrnak had a 6 goal 2 assist game it doesnt mean matthews was bad.
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1-These goals go in all the time, the best goalies in the world dont stop them in the playoffs and Swayman had at least two blow by him untouched that only didnt go in because they hit the post and one that he didnt get anything but the jersey in his armpit on.
2-When you are the primary issue on the game winning goal, you are the problem. When you take two dumb penalties that put your team down early, you are the problem
3-and when other teams players take dumb penalties, they are the reason that team is on the PK too, so they get that blame. Just like Domi, if this was a trip to stop a break away or something it wouldnt be near as damning as punching a guy in the head for no reason in a scurm
4-no, the eye test shows sammy was good. And It matters how swayman does, but you are really really convinced that because he was good samsonov must have been awful. that is not how things work.
if matthews had a 4 goal 2 assist game but Pastrnak had a 6 goal 2 assist game it doesnt mean matthews was bad.


1. Swayman stopped them, Bob stopped them, Price stopped them, etc. That's just not true


And for the rest of them, you are just ignoring what I say bc it makes you feel better and allows you to attack other guys...

And the would be like if Sammy had a .940 save% and Sway had a .950 save%, but that's not how it happened... Having a 6 vs 8 point night for 1/20 players on either side, but we are comparing an average goalie to an excellent goalie this far
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1. Swayman stopped them, Bob stopped them, Price stopped them, etc. That's just not true


And for the rest of them, you are just ignoring what I say bc it makes you feel better and allows you to attack other guys...

And the would be like if Sammy had a .940 save% and Sway had a .950 save%, but that's not how it happened... Having a 6 vs 8 point night for 1/20 players on either side, but we are comparing an average goalie to an excellent goalie this far


Swayman and bob have let in much worse goals than that this year, several even, and yes, we are comparing an average goalie to better ones, that is besides the point that samsonov was fine last night except on one goal. These things can both be true at the same time
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Swayman and bob have let in much worse goals than that this year, several even, and yes, we are comparing an average goalie to better ones, that is besides the point that samsonov was fine last night except on one goal. These things can both be true at the same time


In the playoffs though, they have not...

And Sammy wasn't fine... If we switch up Woll and Sammy, at least 2 of those goals get saved and Leafs win 2-1 or more considering how big of a swing the Marchand and Frederic goals were
 
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