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Équipe: 2024-25 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 8 avr. 2024
Publié: 8 avr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
2925 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
31 325 000 $
2975 000 $
77 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
34 875 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Celebrini, Maklin
3950 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (SJS)
Détails additionnels:
2024 1st round pick (PIT) : 14th overall selection
SJS
  1. Barron, Justin
  2. Dvorak, Christian
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
  4. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (MTL)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (MTL)
Détails additionnels:
2024 1st round pick (WPG) : 23th overall selection
2.
MTL
  1. Necas, Martin [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Open the space to resign Guentzel, Jarvis, Skjei, etc. Also, open the space for a addition like Buchnevich
CAR
  1. Mesar, Filip
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (MTL)
  4. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (SJS)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
2024 1st round pick (PIT) : 14th overall selection.
3.
MTL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (BOS)
WSH
  1. Harris, Jordan
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2025 (MTL)
4.
MTL
  1. Johansen, Ryan
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2025 (PHI)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2026 (PHI)
PHI
  1. Anderson, Josh (1 000 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (BOS)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (MTL)
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (DET)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2487 700 000 $75 772 084 $1 022 500 $3 977 500 $11 927 916 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Celebrini, Maklin
950 000 $950 000 $
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 6
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 1
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7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 7
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3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AD
RFA
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2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 3
4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA
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835 000 $835 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
G
UFA - 3
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925 000 $925 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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890 000 $890 000 $
G
RFA - 1
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1 325 000 $1 325 000 $
DG/DD
RFA
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875 000 $875 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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766 667 $766 667 $
DD
UFA - 1
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 2
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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812 500 $812 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
867 500 $867 500 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
DG
RFA - 1

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8 avr. à 11 h 18
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Canes pass. The 1st is the only piece of interest, and the Canes don’t have to move Necas. So unless Montreal gets comfortable with the idea of sending 1 of their 3 roster players of interest back in return, the Habs aren’t getting Necas.
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Canes pass. The 1st is the only piece of interest, and the Canes don’t have to move Necas. So unless Montreal gets comfortable with the idea of sending 1 of their 3 roster players of interest back in return, the Habs aren’t getting Necas.


That's likely what you don't want, but expect an offer like that for a player like Necas. I'm sure that you don't really know who is Mesar.

And just looks what I wrote for the Canes, they can use that to make an offer for a player like Buchnevich.

And when you talking about one of their three roster players, who they are ?
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8 avr. à 11 h 25
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2 years ago it cost the Yotes 2 2nds to move from 27th to 11th, why would you think it costs significantly more than that to move up 9 spots from 23rd to 14th? You could remove everything but Barron and the 1st and it would be equal to that previous trade
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8 avr. à 11 h 27
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That's likely what you don't want, but expect an offer like that for a player like Zegras. I'm sure that you don't really know who is Mesar.

And just looks what I wrote for the Canes, they can use that to make an offer for a player like Buchnevich.

And when you talking about one of their three roster players, who they are ?


He thinks he is getting one of Caufield, Suzuki or Slaf + a 1st for Necas. It's really not worth talking to Canes fans about cause they take delusional to a whole new unforseen level
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8 avr. à 11 h 28
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2 years ago it cost the Yotes 2 2nds to move from 27th to 11th, why would you think it costs significantly more than that to move up 9 spots from 23rd to 14th? You could remove everything but Barron and the 1st and it would be equal to that previous trade


The cost to dump Dvorack can be a 2nd round pick, and that's why I added that.
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He thinks he is getting one of Caufield, Suzuki or Slaf + a 1st for Necas. It's really not worth talking to Canes fans about cause they take delusional to a whole new unforseen level


All of the 3 players have much more value than Necas...................................... Bergevin isn't anymore the Habs GM.......

Caufield have somes better offensive stats than Necas at a younger age, Suzuki is able to carry offensively a full team and Slaf can hit easily the 70-80 pts mark next season.

But Necas is now 25-26, have a good season (and haved a breakout season last year with playing with Aho, etc.), but already hit his prime.
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8 avr. à 11 h 34
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The cost to dump Dvorack can be a 2nd round pick, and that's why I added that.


Dvorak isn't a cap dump, most fans on here don't view players the way GM's do. Dvorak has had some injury woes and some down production cause he doesn't fit the offense first style the Habs want to play since the new management took over but send him to a defensive team like the Canes, Kings or Stars and he will do much better, and that how GM's will view him
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8 avr. à 11 h 38
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All of the 3 players have much more value than Necas...................................... Bergevin isn't anymore the Habs GM.......

Caufield have somes better offensive stats than Necas at a younger age, Suzuki is able to carry offensively a full team and Slaf can hit easily the 70-80 pts mark next season.

But Necas is now 25-26, have a good season (and haved a breakout season last year with playing with Aho, etc.), but already hit his prime.


I agree, hence the reason I said he was delusional. He thinks Necas is McDavid or MacKinnon, hell most Canes fans seem to think that. Necas has a career average of 55 points a season, which he is once again conveniently on pace for but they see that 71 point season as being his norm not the outlier it is. Necas has Domi's value yet they think he is McDavid or something.
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8 avr. à 11 h 50
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Canes pass. The 1st is the only piece of interest, and the Canes don’t have to move Necas. So unless Montreal gets comfortable with the idea of sending 1 of their 3 roster players of interest back in return, the Habs aren’t getting Necas.


Necas isnt worth any of those three unless Carolina is adding a sweetener. Plus the whole hypothetical situation here is that Necas is a cap casualty, so trading him for a player with the same cap hit or higher doesn't make any sense, which means it would be picks and prospects for Necas.

I get what you want but fans on this site are doing Necas trades with the idea that Carolina can't afford to resign him because they choose to sign Jarvis long term, 8+ million, resign Skeji, resign Pesce and resign Guentzel. Leaving now room for Necas
8 avr. à 12 h 14
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Necas isnt worth any of those three unless Carolina is adding a sweetener. Plus the whole hypothetical situation here is that Necas is a cap casualty, so trading him for a player with the same cap hit or higher doesn't make any sense, which means it would be picks and prospects for Necas.

I get what you want but fans on this site are doing Necas trades with the idea that Carolina can't afford to resign him because they choose to sign Jarvis long term, 8+ million, resign Skeji, resign Pesce and resign Guentzel. Leaving now room for Necas


And they can make a trade for a player like Buchnevich (at 50%, means like at 2,5M in their cap space) and they will gonna save 4,5M for a similar player like Necas.
8 avr. à 12 h 22
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He thinks he is getting one of Caufield, Suzuki or Slaf + a 1st for Necas. It's really not worth talking to Canes fans about cause they take delusional to a whole new unforseen level


Those are the only three good players on your team and the Hurricanes aren't gonna take a bulk return.
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Sharks aren't doing that.
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Necas isnt worth any of those three unless Carolina is adding a sweetener. Plus the whole hypothetical situation here is that Necas is a cap casualty, so trading him for a player with the same cap hit or higher doesn't make any sense, which means it would be picks and prospects for Necas.

I get what you want but fans on this site are doing Necas trades with the idea that Carolina can't afford to resign him because they choose to sign Jarvis long term, 8+ million, resign Skeji, resign Pesce and resign Guentzel. Leaving now room for Necas


Once again, the notion that the Canes can’t afford a Necas extension is laughable. Turbo, Skjei, and Pesce all likely have to walk, but the damage from that has also been mitigated with other acquisitions. Necas is a player who isn’t a great fit in a defense first system, but would relatively easily be putting up 80-100+ points in an offensive system that utilizes Necas biggest strengths.

That being said, one of the biggest reasons why the Canes aren’t going to consider the vast majority of these packages, is between people thinking the Canes don’t have the cap space to sign Necas, and the fact that any team wanting to acquire Necas would have to buy off a contending team that has no reason to trade him. Much like the Blues with Buchnevich, you would have to give them a reason to trade away their asset, and it’s going to take more than a late 1st, a prospect, and an assortment of picks.
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Necas isnt worth any of those three unless Carolina is adding a sweetener. Plus the whole hypothetical situation here is that Necas is a cap casualty, so trading him for a player with the same cap hit or higher doesn't make any sense, which means it would be picks and prospects for Necas.

I get what you want but fans on this site are doing Necas trades with the idea that Carolina can't afford to resign him because they choose to sign Jarvis long term, 8+ million, resign Skeji, resign Pesce and resign Guentzel. Leaving now room for Necas


See what I mean, they think Necas has a McDavid trajectory when reality is he has Domi's. He is a 40-60 point 2nd line forward who will occasionally put up 70 points, that's it. He isn't going to suddenly become a ppg player at 26 or supplant Suzuki or Aho ad the number 1C. He is a solid 2nd line forward who will need a new contract and is looking at north of 7 mil. The fact that these Canes fans would rather lose 3 very important peices to their lineup for nothing over getting a decent return for a 2nd line player is actually quite sad.

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Once again, the notion that the Canes can’t afford a Necas extension is laughable. Turbo, Skjei, and Pesce all likely have to walk, but the damage from that has also been mitigated with other acquisitions. Necas is a player who isn’t a great fit in a defense first system, but would relatively easily be putting up 80-100+ points in an offensive system that utilizes Necas biggest strengths.

That being said, one of the biggest reasons why the Canes aren’t going to consider the vast majority of these packages, is between people thinking the Canes don’t have the cap space to sign Necas, and the fact that any team wanting to acquire Necas would have to buy off a contending team that has no reason to trade him. Much like the Blues with Buchnevich, you would have to give them a reason to trade away their asset, and it’s going to take more than a late 1st, a prospect, and an assortment of picks.


Do you seriously think Pesce and Skeji are going to be easy to replace at less than 2 mil each?! That is some kind of delusion you have there, you don't just replace top 4 D men like they grow on trees.
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flyers decline. don't care that anderson is a 'torts player'. they have too many wingers already
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Once again, the notion that the Canes can’t afford a Necas extension is laughable. Turbo, Skjei, and Pesce all likely have to walk, but the damage from that has also been mitigated with other acquisitions. Necas is a player who isn’t a great fit in a defense first system, but would relatively easily be putting up 80-100+ points in an offensive system that utilizes Necas biggest strengths.

That being said, one of the biggest reasons why the Canes aren’t going to consider the vast majority of these packages, is between people thinking the Canes don’t have the cap space to sign Necas, and the fact that any team wanting to acquire Necas would have to buy off a contending team that has no reason to trade him. Much like the Blues with Buchnevich, you would have to give them a reason to trade away their asset, and it’s going to take more than a late 1st, a prospect, and an assortment of picks.


I agree they can resign him, it will just come at the cost of some defense and Guentzel. As I explained, this post is a hypothetical where they rather sign those players and lose Necas, which is going to be a common thing on this site moving forward.

Also gotta love the thought that Necas would magically become a top 10 player in the league at age 25 after never even being a ppg player. He's good but you've seen what he is, a 60-70 point speedy winger and that's great for him and Carolina but thinking he has this ridiculous value because of what he MIGHT be is wrong and no GM in the league over pays for a player entering the back half of his career.
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Quoting: Campabee
He thinks he is getting one of Caufield, Suzuki or Slaf + a 1st for Necas. It's really not worth talking to Canes fans about cause they take delusional to a whole new unforseen level


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All of the 3 players have much more value than Necas...................................... Bergevin isn't anymore the Habs GM.......

Caufield have somes better offensive stats than Necas at a younger age, Suzuki is able to carry offensively a full team and Slaf can hit easily the 70-80 pts mark next season.

But Necas is now 25-26, have a good season (and haved a breakout season last year with playing with Aho, etc.), but already hit his prime.


Quoting: Subbanator7667
Necas isnt worth any of those three unless Carolina is adding a sweetener. Plus the whole hypothetical situation here is that Necas is a cap casualty, so trading him for a player with the same cap hit or higher doesn't make any sense, which means it would be picks and prospects for Necas.

I get what you want but fans on this site are doing Necas trades with the idea that Carolina can't afford to resign him because they choose to sign Jarvis long term, 8+ million, resign Skeji, resign Pesce and resign Guentzel. Leaving now room for Necas


Necas is terrible defensively, i doubt that he will be a target for Hugues and Gorton. Despite playing for one of the best team, despite having one of the highest offensive rate around the league, he still managed to be a minus player.
They can expect any of our player but they can stick with him, Mtl better not approach Necas with a 15 foot stick.
8 avr. à 16 h 21
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CHI somehow someway (wink wink) is going to win the lottery and fast track their rebuild.
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CHI somehow someway (wink wink) is going to win the lottery and fast track their rebuild.


Personally, I think that's gonna be between SJ or MTL.
8 avr. à 19 h 48
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The cost to dump Dvorack can be a 2nd round pick, and that's why I added that.


They have been telling themselves that 7 pt Dvorak is a asset all year. 4.45M for a guy who cant stay healthy or break 30pts. if we were trading him from the US to Canada they;d be asking for a 1st to dump him.
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They have been telling themselves that 7 pt Dvorak is a asset all year. 4.45M for a guy who cant stay healthy or break 30pts. if we were trading him from the US to Canada they;d be asking for a 1st to dump him.


Somes Hawks fans telled that a 2nd can be enough to dump him. Just looks what that's cost to NYI to dump the Josh Bailey contract....
 
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