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Provorov Arvidsson

Créé par: tkecanuck341
Équipe: 2024-25 Kings de Los Angeles
Date de création initiale: 15 févr. 2024
Publié: 15 févr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Kings can't acquire Provorov until June 6, which would be 12 months after the trade in which they retained salary in the Petersen dump. Columbus would retain 50% of the remaining cap hit, essentially making Provorov's cap hit be a net addition of only $2.3625M. Trade return is negotiable, but this seems reasonable considering it's only for one season.

Viktor Arvidsson signed to the "Connor Brown contract" since he missed over 100 days on IR this season. $775k in salary this season, with $1M games played bonuses at 10, 20, 30, 40 games each. Total compensation of $4.775M.

Bonus overage included here for Talbot's $1M GP bonus and 2x schedule A bonuses for Byfield at $212.5k each (he might get more or less).

Remaining cap space can be used to add a bit to extensions or to add extra players to the roster.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
36 300 000 $
1874 125 $
1826 875 $
22 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
65 250 000 $
11 500 000 $
1775 000 $
1775 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Overage, Bonus
11 425 000 $
Transactions
LAK
  1. Provorov, Ivan (2 362 500 $ retained)
CBJ
  1. Englund, Andreas
  2. Kaliyev, Arthur [Droits de RFA]
  3. Spence, Jordan [Droits de RFA]
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (LAK)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Frais de résiliation
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2087 700 000 $87 976 833 $1 850 000 $850 000 $-276 833 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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6 300 000 $6 300 000 $
AG, C
RFA
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
4 200 000 $4 200 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
775 000 $775 000 $
AD, AG
UFA
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
875 000 $875 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
874 125 $874 125 $
C
RFA
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C
RFA
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
775 000 $775 000 $
AD, C
UFA
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
DG
UFA - 7
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
G
UFA
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
2 362 500 $2 362 500 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
DD
UFA
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
826 875 $826 875 $
G
RFA
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
5 875 000 $5 875 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Overage, Bonus
1 425 000 $1 425 000 $

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15 févr. à 15 h 39
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This is pretty creative I can't think of a team acquiring a contract that they were already retaining on without playing a game with the team.
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Kaliyev and Spence would most likely be good enough for provarov alone I'd say
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Jackets pass. I think if we shopped Provorov in the offseason or TDL with retention this offer would be beat. Granted i dont know much about the prospects, but i think our FO would rather a 1st than take on 3 players.
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Quoting: cody_tugak
Kaliyev and Spence would most likely be good enough for provarov alone I'd say


The 2nd was included for the 50% retention.
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Quoting: BoomerTheHero
Jackets pass. I think if we shopped Provorov in the offseason or TDL with retention this offer would be beat


As I said in the description, the return is negotiable. Had to come up with something to get the idea out there.
15 févr. à 15 h 56
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Just curious can a team trade a player back to the original team that retained salary? Regardless of retaining extra salary or not?
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
As I said in the description, the return is negotiable. Had to come up with something to get the idea out there.


ah sorry i missed that. I think some team would give a 1st for him, especially if its during the offseason and worst case they can recoup assets at the TDL if it didnt work out.
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Just curious can a team trade a player back to the original team that retained salary? Regardless of retaining extra salary or not?


Yes, but not for 12 months after the original trade where the retention happened.

CBA 50.5 (e)(C)(3)
"Under no circumstances may a club Reacquire within one (1) calendar year from the date of that Retained Salary Transaction an SPC the Averaged Amount and Player Salary and Bonuses of which that Club agreed to retain as part of a Retained Salary Transaction;"
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15 févr. à 16 h 25
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Lol this is funny. Have run with rittich as your starter haha. Gonna be bottom feeders.
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Lol this is funny. Have run with rittich as your starter haha. Gonna be bottom feeders.


That's what everyone said this summer about Talbot and he ended up as an All Star. Rittich's has likewise been fantastic so far this season.
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That's what everyone said this summer about Talbot and he ended up as an All Star. Rittich's has likewise been fantastic so far this season.


O yeah they been good getting thumped 7-0 to the Sabres lol
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O yeah they been good getting thumped 7-0 to the Sabres lol


Every team has the occasional stinker. That was not Rittich's fault. The entire team forgot to show up that night.
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Very impressive…good work. Like the trade. Was gonna ask you, what do you think Kings need to do? Defensive help? Another scorer? Are they happy w Q at LW or do they want to get him at C? Anyway, good trade man.
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Very impressive…good work. Like the trade. Was gonna ask you, what do you think Kings need to do? Defensive help? Another scorer? Are they happy w Q at LW or do they want to get him at C? Anyway, good trade man.


Short term or long term?

This season, I think Arvidsson was their main "trade deadline acquisition." Bringing him back doesn't leave much room to do anything else.

I wouldn't mind the Kings potentially bringing in another goaltender. I'm not talking about a big name guy like Markstrom, Gibson, or Saros, but a short term, inexpensive 1B guy like Charlie Lindgren or Kevin Lankinen. Talbot did really well to start the season, but with Copley not playing well, the Kings rode him too hard and burned him out. After an exceptional start to the season which earned him a trip to the All Star game and had him as a Vezina front runner, his play has taken a nosedive. He has lost his last 10 starts in a row. Rittich has since taken over as the starter, and Talbot hasn't gotten a start since the All Star break. If the Kings aren't confident enough to split the load with Talbot so they don't also burn out Rittich, then they need to waive Talbot and bring in a replacement that they are willing to rotate with Rittich. That's all I think the Kings can really do this season.

Longer term, the Kings main needs are a puck-moving LHD, a long-term starting goaltender, and some grit (preferably that can also produce offensively, not a goon).

As for Byfield, I think the long-term plan is to move him to center, but that's currently on hold right now with them trying to get Dubois to emerge. He's been noticeably better over the last 3 games, but he needs to keep it up for an extended streak. For now, I think the Kings will keep him on Byfield's wing. Eventually (not this season, maybe not even next season), they may do what they did with Richards and Carter and have them switch off, with Byfield taking over for center and Kopitar moving to the left. Once Kopitar retires, the 1C position belongs to Byfield.
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
Short term or long term?

This season, I think Arvidsson was their main "trade deadline acquisition." Bringing him back doesn't leave much room to do anything else.

I wouldn't mind the Kings potentially bringing in another goaltender. I'm not talking about a big name guy like Markstrom, Gibson, or Saros, but a short term, inexpensive 1B guy like Charlie Lindgren or Kevin Lankinen. Talbot did really well to start the season, but with Copley not playing well, the Kings rode him too hard and burned him out. After an exceptional start to the season which earned him a trip to the All Star game and had him as a Vezina front runner, his play has taken a nosedive. He has lost his last 10 starts in a row. Rittich has since taken over as the starter, and Talbot hasn't gotten a start since the All Star break. If the Kings aren't confident enough to split the load with Talbot so they don't also burn out Rittich, then they need to waive Talbot and bring in a replacement that they are willing to rotate with Rittich. That's all I think the Kings can really do this season.

Longer term, the Kings main needs are a puck-moving LHD, a long-term starting goaltender, and some grit (preferably that can also produce offensively, not a goon).

As for Byfield, I think the long-term plan is to move him to center, but that's currently on hold right now with them trying to get Dubois to emerge. He's been noticeably better over the last 3 games, but he needs to keep it up for an extended streak. For now, I think the Kings will keep him on Byfield's wing. Eventually (not this season, maybe not even next season), they may do what they did with Richards and Carter and have them switch off, with Byfield taking over for center and Kopitar moving to the left. Once Kopitar retires, the 1C position belongs to Byfield.


I know you guys have Arvy back, I say something about Vatrano being a scoring option. I don’t think Ducks would make that trade w Kings for obvious reasons, but was curious if Kings were considering another scorer. You pretty much answered it for me. Thanks man. Good luck today.
 
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