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Créé par: Grievous
Équipe: 2023-24 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 30 janv. 2024
Publié: 30 janv. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Laine, Patrick
33 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
EDM
  1. Andersson, Rasmus (550 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (CHI)
CGY
  1. Ceci, Cody
  2. Kulak, Brett
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (EDM)
2.
EDM
  1. Ceulemans, Corson
  2. Laine, Patrik
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (CBJ)
  4. Choix de 7e ronde en 2025 (VGK)
Détails additionnels:
$2.7 million retained to Chicago, who retain 50% of remaining $6 million ($3 million cap hit)
CBJ
  1. Akey, Beau
  2. Campbell, Jack
  3. Foegele, Warren
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
  5. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (EDM)
  6. Choix de 3e ronde en 2026 (EDM)
3.
EDM
  1. Megna, Jaycob
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2024 (CHI)
  3. Choix de 7e ronde en 2025 (CHI)
  4. Choix de 5e ronde en 2026 (CHI)
CHI
  1. Laine, Patrik
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2026 (EDM)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2026 (EDM)
4.
WSH
  1. Stonehouse, Brady
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2026 (CHI)
5.
MIN
  1. Bourgault, Xavier
  2. Chiasson, Jake
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (CHI)
Détails additionnels:
2027 2nd Round Pick, becomes 2027 1st round pick if Oilers win Stanley Cup and MAF plays 25% of the Oilers playoff minutes.

2028 2nd round pick
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
Logo de CBJ
Logo de EDM
Logo de NSH
Logo de CHI
2025
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de VGK
Logo de CHI
2026
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $81 405 000 $850 000 $5 050 000 $2 095 000 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C, AD
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance650 000 $$650K)
AG, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
C
RFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
775 000 $775 000 $ (Bonis de performance325 000 $$325K)
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Capitals de Washington
1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
775 000 $775 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 225 000 $$3M)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
762 500 $762 500 $
DG
UFA - 1
Laine, Patrick
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
775 000 $775 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
900 000 $900 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2

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30 janv. à 21 h 3
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Okay, I ain’t breaking anything down at all, just want a fun fact.
Me and Brady Stonehouse have played and won a Fortnite game together
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30 janv. à 21 h 3
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Flames aren't trading Andersson for 2 bottom pairing Dmen, one of which we had already and traded for nothing and a 1st
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30 janv. à 21 h 5
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So you've paid for Columbus to eat Campbell's deal.....MAYBE a bit more. But how are you getting Laine with retention AND Ceulemans, who they've got no incentive to move?
30 janv. à 21 h 14
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You can't possibly think that Calgary "offer" gets off the ground.
30 janv. à 21 h 23
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Quoting: Gmonwy
Flames aren't trading Andersson for 2 bottom pairing Dmen, one of which we had already and traded for nothing and a 1st


Ceci is a top pairing Dman on better teams than what the Flames have had over the past 3 seasons, but okay.

Kulak will be better than the leftover LHD on that roster after Hainfin is sold off.

These players are not pending UFA’s and can easily be traded if they aren’t good enough for that team.
30 janv. à 21 h 24
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You can't possibly think that Calgary "offer" gets off the ground.


I might know some things that aren’t publicly known…
30 janv. à 21 h 26
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Quoting: Grievous
I might know some things that aren’t publicly known…


Muh huh. Like the notion that Ceci can be a top pairing D? Coz nobody on Earth knows that.
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30 janv. à 21 h 33
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Quoting: Trevor31lv
So you've paid for Columbus to eat Campbell's deal.....MAYBE a bit more. But how are you getting Laine with retention AND Ceulemans, who they've got no incentive to move?


They would move the offensively oriented Ceulemans for more well-rounded, but offensively gifted Akey (the kid is a sublime skater and has a rocket shot, should have been a much higher pick). Ceulemans seems to be struggling, so this trade adds more value to the deal for CBJ and brings CC home.

Laine has extremely underperformed expectations, and Campbell’s (seriously) incredible personality will replace the distracting Elvis to help the young CBJ tenders along. Change of scenery therapy for everyone.

Campbell needs to move to a place with less pressure and should be pretty good.

Laine retained prevents a potential total $8.7 million write-off…
30 janv. à 21 h 34
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Quoting: mokumboi
Muh huh. Like the notion that Ceci can be a top pairing D? Coz nobody on Earth knows that.


Quoting: mokumboi
Muh huh. Like the notion that Ceci can be a top pairing D? Coz nobody on Earth knows that.


https://www.capfriendly.com/depth-charts/oilers
30 janv. à 21 h 39
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Gotta be the worst Andersson trade I've ever seen on here. Congrats
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30 janv. à 21 h 41
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Quoting: Grievous
https://www.capfriendly.com/depth-charts/oilers


Pardon. I meant can be a top pairing D for them, not EDM. You've got a lot of spin, dude, but I'm really struggling to understand how you can believe it. This is a terrible offer out of context, and the fact that it's Calgary just makes it the purest of fantasies. You have to know that.
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Quoting: DontTradeDougie
Gotta be the worst Andersson trade I've ever seen on here. Congrats


To the Oilers, no less.
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31 janv. à 9 h 18
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Washington won't want an assortment of random picks/prospects for Dowd. They'll likely not move him for anything less than a 2nd.
31 janv. à 13 h 18
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Quoting: NoVaSpartan
Washington won't want an assortment of random picks/prospects for Dowd. They'll likely not move him for anything less than a 2nd.


That is an extreme over pay for a 4th line Center, despite the additional year. I don’t agree with that valuation at all.
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That is an extreme over pay for a 4th line Center, despite the additional year. I don’t agree with that valuation at all.


Few things here:
- despite playing a "4th line" role Dowd is playing much closer to low 2nd-3rd line minutes averaging almost 16 minutes a game, he can easily fit into a defensive 3rd line role.
- He's one of the best defensive forwards in the league in models such as A&R, and has consistently helped shut down top lines, something pretty much no other line can do for Washington.
- He has an extremely low cap hit plus the extra year on his contract, making him valuable over the next two years.
- Lars Eller returned a 2nd round pick while in a down year, and not only is Dowd better defensively, he's got the extra year and is outscoring Eller from last year on an offensively inept team.

Bottom line, if a team wants Dowd they're going to have to pay up, and Washington is going to be looking for at least a 2nd.
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Quoting: NoVaSpartan
Few things here:
- despite playing a "4th line" role Dowd is playing much closer to low 2nd-3rd line minutes averaging almost 16 minutes a game, he can easily fit into a defensive 3rd line role.
- He's one of the best defensive forwards in the league in models such as A&R, and has consistently helped shut down top lines, something pretty much no other line can do for Washington.
- He has an extremely low cap hit plus the extra year on his contract, making him valuable over the next two years.
- Lars Eller returned a 2nd round pick while in a down year, and not only is Dowd better defensively, he's got the extra year and is outscoring Eller from last year on an offensively inept team.

Bottom line, if a team wants Dowd they're going to have to pay up, and Washington is going to be looking for at least a 2nd.


You could right, he appears to be elite as a bottom 6 shut-down defender, and a RHC to boot, but typically offensive players are worth 1st & 2nd rounders and the defensive types are 3rd rounders or lower.

The market will dictate.

Is Dowd even available?
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Laine sucks and is often (and currently) injured. Why would you give up so much for him?
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Laine sucks and is often (and currently) injured. Why would you give up so much for him?


To clear at least some cap space this season and minimize the impact on it next season.

I’d like to see what it would be like to have an Ovechkinesque shooter on this team and to see what impact this leadership group might have on him.

It’s not that he sucks, it’s that his attitude/effort level sucks.
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Quoting: CD282
Laine sucks and is often (and currently) injured. Why would you give up so much for him?


Quoting: Grievous
To clear at least some cap space this season and minimize the impact on it next season.

I’d like to see what it would be like to have an Ovechkinesque shooter on this team and to see what impact this leadership group might have on him.

It’s not that he sucks, it’s that his attitude/effort level sucks.


You're both just wrong. He's a great player who has injury issues. His attitude and effort have been phenomenal. The guy can't help the fact that he has had a couple bouts of covid and some ****ty injury luck.
7 févr. à 21 h 11
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2027 and 2028 picks lol, you've lost the plot
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Quoting: Grievous
To clear at least some cap space this season and minimize the impact on it next season.

I’d like to see what it would be like to have an Ovechkinesque shooter on this team and to see what impact this leadership group might have on him.

It’s not that he sucks, it’s that his attitude/effort level sucks.


Quoting: dk325
You're both just wrong. He's a great player who has injury issues. His attitude and effort have been phenomenal. The guy can't help the fact that he has had a couple bouts of covid and some ****ty injury luck.

He's terrible defensively (both in effort and ability) which makes him a net negative at 5v5.

Not somebody we should be giving up significant assets for.
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He's terrible defensively (both in effort and ability) which makes him a net negative at 5v5.

Not somebody we should be giving up significant assets for.


Go actually look at his advanced stats over the last 3 years. He's not terrible defensively. That's the kinda thing that people who haven't paid any attention to the development in his game since he joined the Jackets say. He's not given nearly the level of credit he deserves for his defensive effort and willingness to adapt his game and become a more well rounded player.
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Quoting: Grievous
Ceci is a top pairing Dman on better teams than what the Flames have had over the past 3 seasons, but okay.

Kulak will be better than the leftover LHD on that roster after Hainfin is sold off.

These players are not pending UFA’s and can easily be traded if they aren’t good enough for that team.


You guys always had 6 Giordanos! Especially during his Norris seasons.

That's a terrible trade for the Flames. I'm sure that if Andersson is on the market he's going to get a haul. Especially when you consider the cap-hit and term.
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Go actually look at his advanced stats over the last 3 years. He's not terrible defensively. That's the kinda thing that people who haven't paid any attention to the development in his game since he joined the Jackets say. He's not given nearly the level of credit he deserves for his defensive effort and willingness to adapt his game and become a more well rounded player.

Look, Foegele has outscored him in the past 1.5 seasons (5v5). He's just not worth giving up a whole bunch of assets for. And his effort levels defensively aren't great.

Just looked up his latest scouting report from CF:

Elite shooter. Ability to beat NHL goalies from range. Needs to utilize his stature and reach as more of a weapon in high danger areas in the offensive zone.
When he isn't moving his feet / working to empty the tank / he becomes a stationary liability defensively.
Easily defined overall. Capable of scoring north of 30 goals.


This isn't news.
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