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Créé par: Jetman
Équipe: 2023-24 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 30 janv. 2024
Publié: 30 janv. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Get Monny now and Lindholm later. Monny can play 2C for a month and if we need EL, we can get him later and Monny can play 4C
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WPG
  1. Monahan, Sean
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (MTL)
Détails additionnels:
a 32 pick gap plus a depth forward, 4C
MTL
  1. Gustafsson, David
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (MTL)
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  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
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they change a 7th into a 5th
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30 janv. à 8 h 50
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No on the MTL trade
- zero need or want for Monahan
- waste of assets acquiring him. Better spent elsewhere
- waste of cap paying him. Better spent elsewhere
- he’s not worth that MTL 2nd
- Monahan isn’t a 2C
- Namestnikov is just as good if not better for 4C

Too much for Lindholm, not retained
- remove Appleton.

Bogosian works for depth
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30 janv. à 8 h 59
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Quoting: CanMerc
No on the MTL trade..zero need or want for Monahan… wouldn’t take him for free at this point
Too much for Lindholm…remove Appleton
Bogosian works for depth


LMAO, you are such a troll! What team wouldn't want a top/middle 6 center on pace for 50-60 points and a high 3rd round pick for a late 2nd and a bottom 6 winger?! ROFLMFAO!!!
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30 janv. à 9 h 2
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Quoting: Campabee
LMAO, you are such a troll! What team wouldn't want a top/middle 6 center on pace for 50-60 points and a high 3rd round pick for a late 2nd and a bottom 6 winger?! ROFLMFAO!!!


He’s not a top 6 anything in WPG… he’s a bottom 6… at best
Every one of our current Cs are better than him at everything except faceoffs.
Monahan is hugely overrated and over valued on these boards by Hab fans and people who like how he “Used to” play

Had so many delusional Hab fans try to shove him down our throat the last month, I honestly wouldn’t take him for free now just because I’m sick of him.
He would take cap money we should be spending somewhere else.
He would take a roster spot we should be giving to someone else.
Other than faceoffs, there is absolutely nothing he brings we don’t already have.
If I was the Jets owner and Chevy traded for Monahan, I’d fire him immediately…on the spot.
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30 janv. à 9 h 7
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Quoting: CanMerc
No on the MTL trade
- zero need or want for Monahan
- waste of assets acquiring him. Better spent elsewhere
- waste of cap paying him. Better spent elsewhere
- he’s not worth that MTL 2nd
- Monahan isn’t a 2C
- Namestnikov is just as good if not better for 4C

Too much for Lindholm, not retained
- remove Appleton

Bogosian works for depth


Do you realize how biased your Lindholm vs Monahan analysis is? They are the perfect comparables, so good job there, but the fact that you accept to trade for Lindholm (albeit at a lower price) and say Monahan is too expensive is ludicrous.

Monahan's cap hit at the TDL will be sub 500K, Lindholm's will be 1.2M.

Monahan has more goals than Lindholm.
Monahan has more points than Lindholm.
Monahan has an equivalent faceoff percentage to Lindholm.
Monahan plays with significantly worse linemates than Lindholm at 5-on-5.
Monahan plays with equivalent linemates to Lindholm during power plays.

Your player analysis is extremely biased sir.
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30 janv. à 9 h 8
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It would have to be Winnipeg's 1st to get Monahan and you don't get a 3rd coming from MTL
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30 janv. à 9 h 9
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Quoting: Campabee
LMAO, you are such a troll! What team wouldn't want a top/middle 6 center on pace for 50-60 points and a high 3rd round pick for a late 2nd and a bottom 6 winger?! ROFLMFAO!!!


He's bad at analysis for sure. Not sure if he's a Troll, but man does he suck at seeing things as they are.
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30 janv. à 9 h 12
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Quoting: jonh514
Do you realize how biased your Lindholm vs Monahan analysis is? They are the perfect comparables, so good job there, but the fact that you accept to trade for Lindholm (albeit at a lower price) and say Monahan is too expensive is ludicrous.

Monahan's cap hit at the TDL will be sub 500K, Lindholm's will be 1.2M.

Monahan has more goals than Lindholm.
Monahan has more points than Lindholm.
Monahan has an equivalent faceoff percentage to Lindholm.
Monahan plays with significantly worse linemates than Lindholm at 5-on-5.
Monahan plays with equivalent linemates to Lindholm during power plays.

Your player analysis is extremely biased sir.


Then keep him and stop trying to force him on others.
He’s not worth anything more than a mid 2nd and the Jets don’t want him
30 janv. à 9 h 26
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Quoting: CanMerc
Then keep him and stop trying to force him on others.
He’s not worth anything more than a mid 2nd and the Jets don’t want him


Well... We are a rebuilding team selling our expiring vets and Monahan has topped every analysts trade bait board for the entire season. So it's natural that the reaction to that would be speculation on this site, which is literally used to analyze trade value.

The real question is, why do you want Lindholm but not Monahan?
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30 janv. à 9 h 33
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Quoting: jonh514
Do you realize how biased your Lindholm vs Monahan analysis is? They are the perfect comparables, so good job there, but the fact that you accept to trade for Lindholm (albeit at a lower price) and say Monahan is too expensive is ludicrous.

Monahan's cap hit at the TDL will be sub 500K, Lindholm's will be 1.2M.

Monahan has more goals than Lindholm.
Monahan has more points than Lindholm.
Monahan has an equivalent faceoff percentage to Lindholm.
Monahan plays with significantly worse linemates than Lindholm at 5-on-5.
Monahan plays with equivalent linemates to Lindholm during power plays.

Your player analysis is extremely biased sir.


Finally someone who said the right facts in there !!! Monahan is a great player, his value is the 1st round pick !!

The problem is you can't change the idea for someone who is biased on Habs players and who think that all of them are '' trash '' or are '' cap dump ''..........
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30 janv. à 9 h 36
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Quoting: ht42
Finally someone who said the right facts in there !!! Monahan is a great player, his value is the 1st round pick !!

The problem is you can't change the idea for someone who is biased on Habs players and who think that all of them are '' trash '' or are '' cap dump ''..........


Check out my latest post about it!
30 janv. à 9 h 58
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Winnipeg should have no interest in Monahan. He isn't an upgrade on anything the Jets already have.
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30 janv. à 10 h 15
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Quoting: jonh514
Well... We are a rebuilding team selling our expiring vets and Monahan has topped every analysts trade bait board for the entire season. So it's natural that the reaction to that would be speculation on this site, which is literally used to analyze trade value.

The real question is, why do you want Lindholm but not Monahan?


No… he hasn’t… Lindholm is above him on every board except maybe those in Montreal.
You want to sell him, go ahead, but when every fan of a franchise, except a tiny few misguided souls, tell you they don’t want him and that he’s not what we need… maybe stop and try other teams.
Jets don’t want Monahan
He does absolutely nothing for our team
He would be a negative
Sell him somewhere else…if you can

This is a lousy trade for WPG… giving up a high 2nd and a depth C for a bottom 6 zero defense, limited 5v5, player

I would take Lindholm over Monahan every time, without hesitation, 100%


Depressing part is…I fully expect Chevy to go after Monahan because he’s a cheap idiot who is completely out of touch with the needs of the team.
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30 janv. à 10 h 46
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No… he hasn’t… Lindholm is above him on every board except maybe those in Montreal.
You want to sell him, go ahead, but when every fan of a franchise, except a tiny few misguided souls, tell you they don’t want him and that he’s not what we need… maybe stop and try other teams.
Jets don’t want Monahan
He does absolutely nothing for our team
He would be a negative
Sell him somewhere else…if you can

This is a lousy trade for WPG… giving up a high 2nd and a depth C for a bottom 6 zero defense, limited 5v5, player

I would take Lindholm over Monahan every time, without hesitation, 100%


Depressing part is…I fully expect Chevy to go after Monahan because he’s a cheap idiot who is completely out of touch with the needs of the team.


You do realize you and the other Jets fans know less about what the Jets team needs are and who best fills those need than the Jets FO does right?! So when you say Monahan isn't what the Jets need but the Jets FO says they need a top 6 center and are looking at Monahan, that actually means that the Jets do have an interest and feel like they have a need also, despite what you or your alternate ego Windjammer say!
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30 janv. à 11 h 40
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Quoting: CanMerc
He’s not a top 6 anything in WPG… he’s a bottom 6… at best
Every one of our current Cs are better than him at everything except faceoffs.
Monahan is hugely overrated and over valued on these boards by Hab fans and people who like how he “Used to” play

Had so many delusional Hab fans try to shove him down our throat the last month, I honestly wouldn’t take him for free now just because I’m sick of him.
He would take cap money we should be spending somewhere else.
He would take a roster spot we should be giving to someone else.
Other than faceoffs, there is absolutely nothing he brings we don’t already have.
If I was the Jets owner and Chevy traded for Monahan, I’d fire him immediately…on the spot.
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Montreal has no leverage. The best they can get is a 4th round pick.
30 janv. à 12 h 13
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Montreal has no leverage. The best they can get is a 4th round pick.


Zing! Leverage. Nicely played.
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30 janv. à 12 h 25
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We both know you knew this is an extreme lowball offer for Monahan
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30 janv. à 12 h 28
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Quoting: Benzino204
Montreal has no leverage. The best they can get is a 4th round pick.


When there's a bidding war for a player the team has all the leverage they need, and montreal will just keep him unless the asking price is matched
30 janv. à 15 h 44
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All three trades are decent offers in the ballpark of what it'll take for Winnipeg to acquire those players but all of them could be beaten by another team too so they're unlikely to be accepted this far before the trade deadline.
30 janv. à 16 h 26
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When there's a bidding war for a player the team has all the leverage they need, and montreal will just keep him unless the asking price is matched


You missed the joke...

Any Jets fans in this thread will get it wink
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He’s not a top 6 anything in WPG… he’s a bottom 6… at best
Every one of our current Cs are better than him at everything except faceoffs.
Monahan is hugely overrated and over valued on these boards by Hab fans and people who like how he “Used to” play

Had so many delusional Hab fans try to shove him down our throat the last month, I honestly wouldn’t take him for free now just because I’m sick of him.
He would take cap money we should be spending somewhere else.
He would take a roster spot we should be giving to someone else.
Other than faceoffs, there is absolutely nothing he brings we don’t already have.
If I was the Jets owner and Chevy traded for Monahan, I’d fire him immediately…on the spot.
.


Get ready for Monahan. Sorry bro
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Quoting: CanMerc
Then keep him and stop trying to force him on others.
He’s not worth anything more than a mid 2nd and the Jets don’t want him


Not worth more than a mid-2nd and the Jets don't want him...
Well, you were right.
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Winnipeg should have no interest in Monahan. He isn't an upgrade on anything the Jets already have.


Great insight. You know your hockey well.
 
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